ASUS Shows Concept GeForce RTX 4070 Without Power Connector

[GFreeman]

At its Computex 2023 showcase and ASUS HQ tour for the press, the company has unveiled a new ASUS ROG concept graphics card based on the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 design, that actually has no standard power connectors, but draws power from the motherboard via a proprietary slot.

As noted, the graphics card is still in its concept phase, and actually draws power from a special PCIe like slot connector at the bottom of the graphics card. Of course, this also means that it will need a special motherboard, which ASUS had on display as well. The motherboard is based on a Z790 TUF Gaming motherboard, with a design that had all the connectors at the back of the motherboard. In addition to the standard power and other connectors like SATA ports, it also includes three 8-pin PCIe and single 12VHPWR connector, which are meant to power the graphics card. Of course, such motherboard also requires a special PC case that have cut-outs for those connectors.



ASUS is currently limiting the design to 600 W and the GeForce RTX 4070 as this is still under development, and ASUS is keeping a lot of information under NDA, but we might have heard that there are plans for a possible GeForce RTX 4090 version as well. We should have more information soon and update the article accordingly, but according to information known so far, these could be available globally and as a limited edition, as ASUS tests the market and demand for such products.

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[ixi]

Imagine buying asus mobo because of this xD and then add asus gpu, hehe. Tinfoil hats incoming.

 

[Chaitanya]

Imagine buying asus mobo because of this xD and then add asus gpu, hehe. Tinfoil hats incoming.

And there arent enough Shitsus boards burning up already plus being stuck in ecosystem and no clear upgrade path.

 

[Timbaloo]

All that just to hide the GPU power cables/connectors? Nah, I'm not having it...

 

[teamtd11]

Would be interesting as a open standard. But limited to one brand would be a hard no.

 

[Tomorrow]

Not a bad idea. Less cables is always good.

 

[bonehead123]

draws power from a special PCIe like slot connector at the bottom of the graphics card. Of course, this also means that it will need a special motherboard, which ASUS had on display as well. The motherboard is based on a Z790 TUF Gaming motherboard

Translation: Uber-friggin hella-mega ultra expensive

Leave it to AsAss to create some proprietary nonsense to lock people into to their ecosystem...

Yea, like I REALLY want to be pulling 600+w through my pcie slots, yea, uh huh, right...

 

[btarunr]

Good luck finding buyers for this card when you want to upgrade your GPU.

 

[Panther_Seraphin]

People forgot of when people were burning boards up with serious SLi/Crossfire setups back in the day?

4090s draw that sort of power now on their own!!

 

[..0]

this is so messed up, asus is looking for demand, not if it is a good idea or not.
consumers are not good at making critical choices. engineers with relevant education must do that.

 

[Chaitanya]

Not a bad idea. Less cables is always good.

Its just moving cable from GPU to motherboard and has a propietary connectors on card along with no clear path for upgrade. eWaste at best and a fire hazard at worst.

 

[Fleurious]

I am a fan of anything that removes the number of cables needed.

i.e. Having to connect a power cable to SSDs always drove me nuts and is a big reason my current build only uses m.2 drives.

 

[Tomorrow]

Its just moving cable from GPU to motherboard and has a propietary connectors on card along with no clear path for upgrade. eWaste at best and a fire hazard at worst.

This is a concept. If it's embraced by the industry then yes backwards compatibility will suffer but not forward compatibility.
As if current 12VHPWR are not much more of a fire hazard?

Less cables is the future. SSD's have already moved to PCIe and it's much easier to deal with M.2 than it it with SATA.

 

[Beermotor]

This means Asus is committing to this being their minimum PCB length from now on. That'll drive up their BOM costs.

 

[Daven]

Apple does it this way in the Mac Pro.

 

[ZoneDymo]

I mean why not just expand the PCI-E slot to a new standard? been a long time since that was switched up anyway.
That at 75 watts was enough to power gpu's in the past by itself just fine, now that we need more, why not just upgrade that part?

 

[Deleted member 185088]

I mean why not just expand the PCI-E slot to a new standard? been a long time since that was switched up anyway.

Yeah they keep making it faster why not add more power delivery.

 

[tommesfps]

E X A C T L Y what I/we need from ASUS

 

[fevgatos]

This is a concept. If it's embraced by the industry then yes backwards compatibility will suffer but not forward compatibility.
As if current 12VHPWR are not much more of a fire hazard?

Less cables is the future. SSD's have already moved to PCIe and it's much easier to deal with M.2 than it it with SATA.

Was there a single fire due to 12vhpwr? Probably not a single one. 8pins are the ones that actually caused fire in the past

 

[Flanker]

Lol I thought they undervolted and underclocked the 4070 to run at 75w.

This is even worse

 

[N3utro]

It's a good idea, easier to plug cables from the MB to the PSU than from the GPU. Also easier to hide them this way.

But as it's proprietary technology it will be hard to resell this when upgrading as only a few people will run the same compatible hardware.

 

[Tomorrow]

Was there a single fire due to 12vhpwr? Probably not a single one. 8pins are the ones that actually caused fire in the past

It's still a hazard. Users have been lucky thus far that no actual fire has started. Hopefully it stays that way.
I have not heard of a single 8pin incident that caused a fire. Can you link some source?

Also 8pin has been on the market for far longer and is in use by many more people than 12VHPWR. Proportionally one could assume that by the age and number of users 8pin should have more incidents. Still by the same logic 12VHPWR has had high proportionally number of incidents considering the short age and small number of users.

 

[Telstar]

Imagine buying asus mobo because of this xD and then add asus gpu.

I would for next gen. Anything to not have cables coming from the gpu.

 

[ixi]

I would for next gen. Anything to not have cables coming from the gpu.

. If you look at the case all the time instead of monitor then maybe that is a good idea.

 

[fevgatos]

It's still a hazard. Users have been lucky thus far that no actual fire has started. Hopefully it stays that way.
I have not heard of a single 8pin incident that caused a fire. Can you link some source?

Also 8pin has been on the market for far longer and is in use by many more people than 12VHPWR. Proportionally one could assume that by the age and number of users 8pin should have more incidents. Still by the same logic 12VHPWR has had high proportionally number of incidents considering the short age and small number of users.

I agree, 8pin should have more issues because of how long it's been in use, and it has. You can just Google and see numerous reddit post. A guys house totally burned down lol.

There hasnt been a single fire with the 12vhpwr,and every occasion that resulted in a a damaged connector was due to poor instalation of the actual cable.