Intel Core Ultra 7 1002H "Meteor Lake-P" Processor with 16 Cores and 22 Threads Surfaces

[AleksandarK]

A few weeks ago, we spotted an Intel Core Ultra 7 1003H Meteor Lake-P processor in the wild, running a PugetBench set of benchmarks. Today, we are in luck as there is another Meteor Lake-P processor running in the wild, spotted by @InstLatX64 on Twitter. Called Intel Core Ultra 7 1002H, the CPU represents a similar SKU to the previously discovered 1003. Also, having 16 cores in total, they are split into two categories: 6 Performance cores, and ten Efficient cores, two of which are on the SoC die, divided from the remaining eight on the compute die. Interestingly, only P-cores feature 2-way hyperthreaded, so 12 threads from P-cores and ten threads from E-cores combine into 22 threads.

What we don't know is the frequency of this chip and the position it plays in the Meteor Lake-P family of processors. The screenshot states a potential base clock of 3000 MHz; however, it could be an early engineering sample chip, so we have to wait for the final design. With 1003H having exactly the same core/thread number, we expect that the newly discovered 1002H has potentially lower clocks and TDP to match.



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As always seems to be the case with Intel P + E configurations, hyperthreading on the P cores only. This otherwise seems to tie in with what is known about Meteor Lake to date.

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

As always seems to be the case with Intel P + E configurations, hyperthreading on the P cores only. This otherwise seems to tie in with what is known about Meteor Lake to date.

The lack of hyperthreading on the e-cores is why I think AMD making a hybrid with a Zen4 and Zen4C chiplet (or Zen5 and Zen5C if not this generation) could be a big hit to Intel. Hypothetically speaking, a CPU with a Zen 4 and 4C chiplet would have 24 cores and 48 threads would be the highest thread count on a consumer platform, and would preempt the rumors of an Intel chip with 8 p cores and 32 e cores (so 48 threads in total). Plus, from what I've seen, the Zen4C cores (and probably Zen5C cores when they come out) should be faster than intel's current e-cores. Plus, the reduced L3 cache on the 4C cores could be compensated for with a v-cache addition (obviously it'sa lot more complicated than that), making what would be the highest threaded consumer chip as well as one of if not the best gaming chip as well...it'd be a good way to take away the few claims to fame raptor lake currently has.....

I'm sure if we don't see a heterogeneous pairing like this with this generation, we'll see it with Zen5/5C, but it'd be cool if AMD did it sooner. Plus, my imagination is going wild thinking of what AMD could do with the upcoming threadripper line and the ability to have anywhere from four to 12 compute chiplets in the package.....not that'll happen, but I'd love to see some of those chiplets replaced with HBM3 stacks.....say something with 6 computer chiplets and 2 stacks of HBM3, so 48 Zen4 cores and 48GB of HBM3 in a single package and it can dynamically switch between acting like an L4 cache and system memory...just ranting and daydreaming....

 

[bonehead123]

I'm sure if we don't see a heterogeneous pairing like this with this generation, we'll see it with Zen5/5C, but it'd be cool if AMD did it sooner. Plus, my imagination is going wild thinking of what AMD could do with the upcoming threadripper line and the ability to have anywhere from four to 12 compute chiplets in the package.....not that'll happen, but I'd love to see some of those chiplets replaced with HBM3 stacks.....say something with 6 computer chiplets and 2 stacks of HBM3, so 48 Zen4 cores and 48GB of HBM3 in a single package and it can dynamically switch between acting like an L4 cache and system memory...just ranting and daydreaming....

Yep, I too often daydream about what could be, when looking at chip layouts and diagrams....unfortunately, alot of what I can envision will never see the light of day until at least 2036 or so, due to the way the current chip making market is runnin itself into the ground while being dominated by people who are completely focused on 1 thing & 1 thing only...

squeezing the consumer for every single penny, nickel & dime they can get while giving us snail-paced, uber-minimal & incremental improvements over & over & over again

 

[A&P211]

Since it says "h" in the name, I wonder if its a mobile version.

 

[hsew]

The lack of hyperthreading on the e-cores is why I think AMD making a hybrid with a Zen4 and Zen4C chiplet (or Zen5 and Zen5C if not this generation) could be a big hit to Intel. Hypothetically speaking, a CPU with a Zen 4 and 4C chiplet would have 24 cores and 48 threads would be the highest thread count on a consumer platform, and would preempt the rumors of an Intel chip with 8 p cores and 32 e cores (so 48 threads in total). Plus, from what I've seen, the Zen4C cores (and probably Zen5C cores when they come out) should be faster than intel's current e-cores. Plus, the reduced L3 cache on the 4C cores could be compensated for with a v-cache addition (obviously it'sa lot more complicated than that), making what would be the highest threaded consumer chip as well as one of if not the best gaming chip as well...it'd be a good way to take away the few claims to fame raptor lake currently has.....

I'm sure if we don't see a heterogeneous pairing like this with this generation, we'll see it with Zen5/5C, but it'd be cool if AMD did it sooner. Plus, my imagination is going wild thinking of what AMD could do with the upcoming threadripper line and the ability to have anywhere from four to 12 compute chiplets in the package.....not that'll happen, but I'd love to see some of those chiplets replaced with HBM3 stacks.....say something with 6 computer chiplets and 2 stacks of HBM3, so 48 Zen4 cores and 48GB of HBM3 in a single package and it can dynamically switch between acting like an L4 cache and system memory...just ranting and daydreaming....

I’m tempted to suggest a 16core ccd + 24/48GB HBM3 + big GPU IO die… that would be killer in a gaming laptop or mini pc.

 

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Since it says "h" in the name, I wonder if its a mobile version.

The second graphic mentions SODIMM memory so it will be.

 

[Chrispy_]

I'd forgotten about the stupid name change.
How is an 3.6GHz i3 quad-core "ultra" anyway?

Also, since the Intel Core i5 is referred to just as an i5, and Ryzens are often just referred to by their number alone, I suspect people will just keep calling them i3/i5/i7/i9, not that it's necessary. If I say 13600K or 5700X there is zero ambiguity there, so no need for an more extraneous nonsense like "Intel Core Ultra 7 1002H Extreme Championship Edition 2Furious"

 

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How is an 3.6GHz i3 quad-core "ultra" anyway?

Intel have not made clear why the Meteor Lake mobile CPUs are all being called Ultra. One possible reason is the inclusion of the Neural Processing Unit within the SOC of these chips. Or it could be the 2 LPE cores that are present in the SOC - the purpose of which has not been explained. Or it could be a combination of both.

 

[Chrispy_]

Intel have not made clear why the Meteor Lake mobile CPUs are all being called Ultra. One possible reason is the inclusion of the Neural Processing Unit within the SOC of these chips. Or it could be the 2 LPE cores that are present in the SOC - the purpose of which has not been explained. Or it could be a combination of both.

I thought they were rebranding older 13th Gen to "ultra" too, with neither of those features you're talking about.

 

[hs4]

Core Ultra 7 1003H
Core Ultra 7 1002H
Core Ultra 5 1003H

The use of numbers that look like temporary codes will probably be different in the product.

 

[Hyderz]

Core Ultra 7 * now read it in Optimus prime voice

 

[AMF]

being able to select the highestperforming single core to dedicate to gaming or other tasks in the bios would be a nice option

how about amd pheonix 9 7.0 ghz 125 watt 24/48t 2x 128mb 3dv cache

 

[Minus Infinity]

I thought they were rebranding older 13th Gen to "ultra" too, with neither of those features you're talking about.

You mean 14th gen Raptor Lake refresh? No way they'll change the name of current Raptor Lake cpus IMO, but possibly for the refresh coming later this year.

 

[cbb]

Core Ultra 7 * now read it in Optimus prime voice

heh. I was thinking Admiral Motti from A New Hope ("now the ultimate powah in the universe!"), but yours is good, too!