NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 to Release on June 29

[loregnum]

TPU is all ready with their "editor's choice" like they do any time Nvidia releases a mediocre card. Looking forward to the laughs when the review hits.

 

[AndroidBR]

this just in, my gtx 1070 oc'd paired with a newer cpu, ties a 4060 non-ti!!!

haha i wouldn't be surprised, with as much of a shit show nvidia is pulling off

I thought the same thing in a very sarcastic way!
Nvidia is so full of sh*t with their 40 series cards... It's no joke.
My 2018 build, now passed over to my 11 year old son, is still going strong: B450, 5950X, GTX 1070 Ti, 32GB DDR4 3200.
Paired with a 34" 2560x1080 75Hz monitor (G-Sync enabled) with a lot of settings still being able to get maxed out at that resolution in most of the games he likes to play.
I see no need to upgrade this old PC with a better GPU, considering the resolution and fairly low refresh rate on that monitor, so nVidia p*ss off with your sh*te *horrible price to performance* GPUs. We'll let it sit on the shelves.

 

[Chrispy_]

The only thing that will make the 4060 remotely interesting is a $249 price tag.

Unless the 4060 is at least 25% faster than a 3060, the 3060 is still looking like the better option, because it's not hamstrung by 8GB VRAM limitations.

 

[Dragokar]

That's a nice shiny 200$€ card like the 7600

 

[nomdeplume]

TPU is all ready with their "editor's choice" like they do any time Nvidia releases a mediocre card. Looking forward to the laughs when the review hits.

Do stick around long enough to observe the professional atmosphere upheld in all times. If you would like to find out more I'm quite sure the site owner and card reviewer can be reached through email.

 

[evernessince]

But I'm sure reviewers will greet it with standing ovations. Recommended, although it has worse proce / performance than the last generation card.

Unfortunately but true. Many reviewers seem to have lost the plot, simply being the best card on the market doesn't suddenly make people blind to the fact that both AMD and Nvidia conspire, wittingly or unwittingly, to keep prices high and that price to performance improvements relative to almost every past generational jump for every card but the 4090 is beyond pitiful.

 

[ZoneDymo]

borderline e-waste

 

[Bomby569]

The only thing that will make the 4060 remotely interesting is a $249 price tag.

Unless the 4060 is at least 25% faster than a 3060, the 3060 is still looking like the better option, because it's not hamstrung by 8GB VRAM limitations.

that would be hilarious because the 3060 is 25% slower then the 4060ti, so the 4060 would be the same as a 4060ti?!

 

[N/A]

that would be hilarious because the 3060 is 25% slower then the 4060ti, so the 4060 would be the same as a 4060ti?!

The numbers don't lie.

4060 Ti is almost as fast as a 3070 that's 50% faster than a 3060 or the opposite 33% slower than.
25% sounds kind of like 33%, but when you start spinning the numbers like that, which is slower but faster, the error builds up to a tier level accuracy. Pretty much.
4060 is projected 18% above 3060, 4060 Ti is another 30% so there you have it 50% total.

And if you have a 1070 / 1660 Ti / 980 Ti it's time to upgrade. that would provide a significant uplift in performance not counting the tensor cores and what they can do.

 

[pavle]

They (nvidia) really don't need to launch it; they can keep it on their own shelves or JenHsun can use them to wipe his you know what with such cards if they intend to price them over $180!

 

[Chrispy_]

that would be hilarious because the 3060 is 25% slower then the 4060ti, so the 4060 would be the same as a 4060ti?!

Realistically, it's going to barely beat a 3060, and only then in games where 8GB is enough. DLSS3 FG is nice, but like RT it'll be sub-optimal on a GPU this weak, to the point that you'll enable it once to see if it's playable, and then never use it ever again - the definition of a checkbox feature.

W1zzard's GPU database performance charts are pretty reliable because they account for architecture, clock, and bus width I think. All of that is already known, so the 3060 is likely to be only 4% slower than the 4060, making the 4060 a waste of shelf space and a waste of sand. 12GB or go home....

 

[Ruru]

The Ti was already a joke, this should be named as 4050.

 

[Chrispy_]

borderline e-waste

The only reason the 3060 is holding its value is because it has 12GB VRAM. The 3060Ti, 3070, 3070Ti, and even 3080 10G are all plummeting in price, both used and new (where still available).
Regardless of how these 8GB cards perform in today's games, buyers have completely lost confidence in 8GB cards, and rightly so.

Unless you're a truly ignorant dumbass who blindly purchases a graphics card without reading ANYTHING, you will want more than 8GB. You'd need to be hiding under a rock, with no internet access to miss the fact that 8GB isn't enough any more. Not a single reviewer, youtuber, or journalist has given the 4060Ti praise without VRAM or price-related caveats. And they're clogging up shelves unsold - truly unflushable at the $399 asking price.

 

[Ruru]

The only reason the 3060 is holding its value is because it has 12GB VRAM. The 3060Ti, 3070, 3070Ti, and even 3080 10G are all plummeting in price, both used and new (where still available).
Regardless of how these 8GB cards perform in today's games, buyers have completely lost confidence in 8GB cards, and rightly so.

I'd say that 3080 10GB is still fine. But 8GB starts to be the bare minimum these days.

Actually weird how the minimum practical VRAM requirement in games has increased significantly in few years, I don't remember a similar situation in the last ~20 years that I've been a PC gamer/hobbyist.

 

[Chrispy_]

I'd say that 3080 10GB is still fine. But 8GB starts to be the bare minimum these days.

Actually weird how the minimum practical VRAM requirement in games has increased significantly in few years, I don't remember a similar situation in the last ~20 years that I've been a PC gamer/hobbyist.

The 3080 10GB is still fine for most people, yes.

The problem is that most people who bought at 3080 10GB paid $1200+ for them. They were the uber-expensive flagship graphics cards at the height of the scalpocalypse - so those people are likely the 4K120 display owners of 2020/2021. They won't be happy with just 2GB more than the bare minimum because they're not the sort of people willing to reduce resolution and quality settings.

Where the 3080 will shine is on the used market as a $400 card against the $600 4070.

 

[Ruru]

The 3080 10GB is still fine for most people, yes.

The problem is that most people who bought at 3080 10GB paid $1200+ for them. They were the uber-expensive flagship graphics cards at the height of the scalpocalypse - so those people are likely the 4K120 display owners of 2020/2021. They won't be happy with just 2GB more than the bare minimum because they're not the sort of people willing to reduce resolution and quality settings.

Where the 3080 will shine is on the used market as a $400 card against the $600 4070.

Ah, yeah I get your point there. Though, well, pretty few cards purchased with those skyrocketed prices weren't good purchases.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Isn't this card basically what 4050 should have been? AD107 and 128 bit. You get dlss 3 big whoop since that will be replaced with dlss 4.0 once 50xx series comes out. Sad times.

Yep, anything using AD107 should have been 4050/4050 Ti and prices cut $100 across the board. Same applies to the 7600, it's at best a 7500XT.

 

[sLowEnd]

borderline e-waste

The only thing wrong with it is its price. (Pretty common theme for this generation of cards from both Nvidia and AMD, sadly.) It's not nearly weak enough nor flawed enough to be e-waste.

 

[N/A]

The only thing wrong with it is its price. (Pretty common theme for this generation of cards from both Nvidia and AMD, sadly.) It's not nearly weak enough nor flawed enough to be e-waste.

This applies to the price of mostly everything these days, so why should Nvidia make the exception.
Sure this generation is skippable. Not very appealing. I mean if they sold me a 6144 Cuda 256 bit 16GB regular GDDR6 at $600 I might be able to bite the bait.

 

[ZoneDymo]

The only thing wrong with it is its price. (Pretty common theme for this generation of cards from both Nvidia and AMD, sadly.) It's not nearly weak enough nor flawed enough to be e-waste.

I dont agree, buying a card that will be obsolete in no time is just wasteful, its a waste of resources required to make the product and then new resources to make a replacement within a short amount of time.
Cyberpunk is cyberpunk yes, its a tech demo, but it showed that you will run into those vram limits even at 1080p rather quickly....and that should just not be the limiting factor on a gpu right out of the gate....

just slap atleast 12 gb on it and we have something that will be outdated purely based on its performance within some years to come, not because of a physical lack of vram in no time flat.

Heck actually looking at this from the pov of price is completely the wrong mindset, its basically saying nothing is wasteful if you can afford it.
For example, is watering the yard during a drought period and then when its satiated, you just let the water run into the drain until you need it again and also just leave the shower running in case you might want to make use of it...is that not wasteful just because you are "rich" enough to afford the water-bill?

 

[bug]

In spite of several posts here, DLSS3 (and RTX, for that matter) is a feature/capability. I'd rather have it rather than don't.

That said, I'm sure these will sell like hot... beer?

 

[Bomby569]

In spite of several posts here, DLSS3 (and RTX, for that matter) is a feature/capability. I'd rather have it rather than don't.

That said, I'm sure these will sell like hot... beer?

They will sell out in the UK?

 

[AusWolf]

I dont agree, buying a card that will be obsolete in no time is just wasteful, its a waste of resources required to make the product and then new resources to make a replacement within a short amount of time.
Cyberpunk is cyberpunk yes, its a tech demo, but it showed that you will run into those vram limits even at 1080p rather quickly....and that should just not be the limiting factor on a gpu right out of the gate....

just slap atleast 12 gb on it and we have something that will be outdated purely based on its performance within some years to come, not because of a physical lack of vram in no time flat.

Heck actually looking at this from the pov of price is completely the wrong mindset, its basically saying nothing is wasteful if you can afford it.
For example, is watering the yard during a drought period and then when its satiated, you just let the water run into the drain until you need it again and also just leave the shower running in case you might want to make use of it...is that not wasteful just because you are "rich" enough to afford the water-bill?

I think the mindset here is that nothing is wasteful that serves a purpose. Sure, if you always play the latest games, and you always want maximum graphical settings, and/or you already have a 3060 or something better, then sure, the 4060 is wasteful. But if you're upgrading from a 1060, and just want to play current games (that is, you're not interested in new releases), and/or you don't mind turning texture resolution down a notch, and the 4060 isn't more expensive than the 3060, then I see the point behind it.

Similarly to the way the Radeon RX 7600 isn't meant for people who have a 6600 XT or better, the 4060 won't be an upgrade path for Ampere owners, either. It'll have to be reflected in its price, though.

 

[Bomby569]

I think the mindset here is that nothing is wasteful that serves a purpose. Sure, if you always play the latest games, and you always want maximum graphical settings, and/or you already have a 3060 or something better, then sure, the 4060 is wasteful. But if you're upgrading from a 1060, and just want to play current games (that is, you're not interested in new releases), and/or you don't mind turning texture resolution down a notch, and the 4060 isn't more expensive than the 3060, then I see the point behind it.

i do agree with this in principle, people that already are served do ignore there are people every day that find themselves in honest need of a new card, not just upgrading for wanting a new shiny thing.
But mind you there is better alternatives. I would stay away and shop somewhere else, amd or even Intel if it me and my case of really needing a upgrade.

 

[bug]

I think the mindset here is that nothing is wasteful that serves a purpose. Sure, if you always play the latest games, and you always want maximum graphical settings, and/or you already have a 3060 or something better, then sure, the 4060 is wasteful. But if you're upgrading from a 1060, and just want to play current games (that is, you're not interested in new releases), and/or you don't mind turning texture resolution down a notch, and the 4060 isn't more expensive than the 3060, then I see the point behind it.

Similarly to the way the Radeon RX 7600 isn't meant for people who have a 6600 XT or better, the 4060 won't be an upgrade path for Ampere owners, either. It'll have to be reflected in its price, though.

Owner of a 1060 looking at a 4060Ti agrees. Still inclining to give the 4060Ti a pass because of the price.