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Denon Launches the PerL TWS Earbuds with Masimo AAT Support

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Denon was a latecomer to the TWS earbud market and its initial offerings didn't exactly take the market with storm, largely due to lacking any headline features. The new PerL and PerL Pro TWS earbuds have plenty of headline features, but are in fact updated and rebranded versions of Nura's NuraTrue Pro TWS earbuds that originated on Kickstarter back in 2022. The reason for this is that Masimo, the company that owns Denon and Bowers & Wilkins, acquired Nura back in April this year. As such, Denon could leverage the work of Nura at the expense of Nura having stopped selling the NuraTrue Pro. That said, this should lead to a broader availability for consumers, which could be seen as a net positive.

The US$349 PerL Pro are more or less the NuraTrue Pro with added support for Masimo's Adaptive Acoustic Technology or AAT for short, as well as the use of the Denon app. We couldn't spot anything else that had changed hardware or feature wise, which means there's still support for adaptive active noise cancelling, Bluetooth 5.3 with multipoint connectivity, aptX Adaptive and aptX Lossless. The PerL Pro's are said to last up to 8 hours on a single charge and the case is good for another 32 hours. The non pro version of the PerL gets feature trimmed—but also carries a much lower price point of US$199—and get a more basic ANC, a shorter 6 hour battery life with only 24 hours in the charging case, Bluetooth 5.0, no multipoint support, basic aptX support and no spatial audio support. The only advantage of the non pro version is that each of the rather large earbuds weigh 1.5 g less than the pro version.



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Looking quite pricey. Is the software any good? Because many times you will find decent buds using a mobile app that looks like something a n00d stitched together in a hurry. E.g. the software that comes with my 1more buds can't even update the firmware, it just errs.
 

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Looking quite pricey. Is the software any good? Because many times you will find decent buds using a mobile app that looks like something a n00d stitched together in a hurry. E.g. the software that comes with my 1more buds can't even update the firmware, it just errs.
There should be plenty of review of the Nura buds, but I don't know if the software was just moved straight over or if Denon made their own app.
Even Sony doesn't have a great app, even though it has gotten better over time.
B&O had such a slow firmware update process that it was painfull, took an hour to do, but you had to keep your phone and headphones away from anything with a 2.4 GHz radio in it for it to work. At least Sony has figured out how to do that part. Even a cheap pair of $35 earbuds I got from Amazon had no issues updating the firmware, so it seems like it has nothing to do with how well known the company is or isn't.
 

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There should be plenty of review of the Nura buds, but I don't know if the software was just moved straight over or if Denon made their own app.
Even Sony doesn't have a great app, even though it has gotten better over time.
B&O had such a slow firmware update process that it was painfull, took an hour to do, but you had to keep your phone and headphones away from anything with a 2.4 GHz radio in it for it to work. At least Sony has figured out how to do that part. Even a cheap pair of $35 earbuds I got from Amazon had no issues updating the firmware, so it seems like it has nothing to do with how well known the company is or isn't.
Tell me about, sometimes I feel like we should get separate reviews for hardware and software.
And with hardware being closed/undocumented, nobody can write an app that will manage, say, 20 brands, so that we can rely on at least some level of support :(

Edit: Not earbuds related, but the software on my Roomba-lookalike asked for location permissions on startup, I allowed it and on the very next screen it asked me which country I'm in. This is the level of stupidity I have come to expect from such software.
 
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Looking quite pricey. Is the software any good? Because many times you will find decent buds using a mobile app that looks like something a n00d stitched together in a hurry. E.g. the software that comes with my 1more buds can't even update the firmware, it just errs.
I refuse to buy high-end BT headphones or earbuds. Audio companies are all so shockingly incompetent at software that I'd rather just have a wire. I've bought several sets for myself and family and the price/quality of the hardware has no relationship to the software/firmware. Bose, B&W, Jabra, Jaybird, Sony - all have at some point demonstrated gross incompetence in some way for fundamental stuff like pairing, remembering settings, wake from sleet etc - that should always "just work" every time, no exceptions. If they're not going to work reliably, every time, and be as easy to pair to a new device as plugging in a 3.5mm cable, I'm either going to get something with that cable, or I'm just going to buy $20 cheapo earbuds from Amazon that behave equally badly from the software/firmware side.

TWS earbuds still feel like they're in their stumbling, tripping, falling early infancy with behaviour unbefitting a product category that's been mainstream for about a decade now.
 

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I refuse to buy high-end BT headphones or earbuds. Audio companies are all so shockingly incompetent at software that I'd rather just have a wire. I've bought several sets for myself and family and the price/quality of the hardware has no relationship to the software/firmware. Bose, B&W, Jabra, Jaybird, Sony - all have at some point demonstrated gross incompetence in some way for fundamental stuff like pairing, remembering settings, wake from sleet etc - that should always "just work" every time, no exceptions. If they're not going to work reliably, every time, and be as easy to pair to a new device as plugging in a 3.5mm cable, I'm either going to get something with that cable, or I'm just going to buy $20 cheapo earbuds from Amazon that behave equally badly from the software/firmware side.

TWS earbuds still feel like they're in their stumbling, tripping, falling early infancy with behaviour unbefitting a product category that's been mainstream for about a decade now.
The issue here is that fewer and fewer phones allow you to plug in the wire. Sure, you can get a DAC, but they're kind of awkward to use imho.
 

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The issue here is that fewer and fewer phones allow you to plug in the wire. Sure, you can get a DAC, but they're kind of awkward to use imho.
I cannot recommend the AudioQuest Dragonfly Black/Red enough ;)
 

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I cannot recommend the AudioQuest Dragonfly Black/Red enough ;)
Way too big and clunky to connect to a phone.
I was actually given one of these and it sound amazing, but I never really use it due to its size.
I generally only use headphones with my phone when out and about, at home I have speakers or an over ear headset.
 
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The issue here is that fewer and fewer phones allow you to plug in the wire. Sure, you can get a DAC, but they're kind of awkward to use imho.
I know. It sucks that phones are dropping support for a very reliable solution, and implementing a half-baked, immature solution.

Bluetooth pairing, basic sleep/wake reliablity, and the bare minimum of volume up/down/mute and play/pause/answer should be an iron-clad standard with low probability of issues like it is on 3.5mm before abandoning said port for bluetooth.

Sometimes, a headphone cable isn't practical, and in those cases it frustrates me how bad the TWS ecosystem is. Outside of Apple's walled garden and Apple's own Airpods, I've yet to see a truly reliable solution and even with Apple it's not perfect (though it's good enough that I'm not as salty about Apple dropping 3.5mm)
 

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I know. It sucks that phones are dropping support for a very reliable solution, and implementing a half-baked, immature solution.

Bluetooth pairing, basic sleep/wake reliablity, and the bare minimum of volume up/down/mute and play/pause/answer should be an iron-clad standard with low probability of issues like it is on 3.5mm before abandoning said port for bluetooth.

Sometimes, a headphone cable isn't practical, and in those cases it frustrates me how bad the TWS ecosystem is. Outside of Apple's walled garden and Apple's own Airpods, I've yet to see a truly reliable solution and even with Apple it's not perfect (though it's good enough that I'm not as salty about Apple dropping 3.5mm)
Way back when, when people only used Bluetooth headsets for calls, there was a company doing a solution based on hearing aid tech, which according to them was nearly impossible to interfere with. The range was technically shorter than Bluetooth, but the audio quality, at least at the time, was much better. It never took off though, since it required an extra chip in the phone and no-one wanted a dongle to use wireless headphones with their phone...
 
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Way back when, when people only used Bluetooth headsets for calls, there was a company doing a solution based on hearing aid tech, which according to them was nearly impossible to interfere with. The range was technically shorter than Bluetooth, but the audio quality, at least at the time, was much better. It never took off though, since it required an extra chip in the phone and no-one wanted a dongle to use wireless headphones with their phone...
As always, the lowest-common-denominator wins out, even if it's garbage.
 

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As always, the lowest-common-denominator wins out, even if it's garbage.
Well, Bluetooth has gone through a lot of changes since then, but we're getting to a point where too many people are using it, so you end up having more issues on public transport, since the signal starts cutting out more and more frequently because the available spectrum is overcrowded.
 

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Way too big and clunky to connect to a phone.
I was actually given one of these and it sound amazing, but I never really use it due to its size.
I generally only use headphones with my phone when out and about, at home I have speakers or an over ear headset.
It doesn't leave my desktop, true, but I have seen people just velcro it to the back of the phone.
 
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