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Framework Dives Deep into Laptop 16's Alloy Construction

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The Framework Laptop 16 is extremely rigid and durable, while also being surprisingly light and thin through use of a combination of magnesium alloy and machined aluminium parts for the enclosure. The laptop is under 18 mm thick, which is unusually slim for a 16" high-performance, upgradeable system. If you choose to add discrete graphics using a Graphics Module, the back section of the laptop extends to just under 21 mm thick, enabling much higher thermal capacity for the GPU. This is a substantially more mechanically complex product than the Framework Laptop 13, with a larger screen size, higher performance parameters, and two new module systems with the Input Modules and Expansion Bay. With all of that, we've still achieved a clean, minimal industrial design, with no externally visible fasteners.

We've done this through careful design work, architecting the system to be made of two core mechanical parts: a molded magnesium alloy Bottom Cover and a CNC aluminium Top Cover. Both of these are items we make in collaboration with one of the most advanced enclosure manufacturers in the world, Catcher Technology. We fabricate the parts at Catcher's massive, highly-automated facility in Tainan, Taiwan, where there are vast fields of molding and milling machines.




First, let's dig into the Bottom Cover, which the Mainboard, Battery, Speakers, Input Modules and other key components install down into. This is a single, complexly structured magnesium alloy part, fabricated using a process called thixomolding. Thixomolding is an insanely cool manufacturing technique in which magnesium alloy is heated to a temperature at which it is semi-liquid and then injection molded into custom tooling. This allows for extremely precise large parts with detailed structural elements. We chose this process and material for the Bottom Cover, which is the single largest mechanical part we've ever built, to achieve high rigidity while also keeping weight low.



Magnesium alloy is lighter than the aluminium that we could otherwise use, and thixomolding a large part like this also means that we can avoid the processing time and waste material that would come with a CNC aluminium part. A CNC part would need to start as a solid block of aluminium, with the vast majority of the material being milled away, while a thixomolded magnesium part can directly be molded into the correct shape. We perform a small amount of milling for features that can't be molded and to thin certain areas further, and then use a low-VOC paint process to protect and color match the magnesium alloy. This is a short summary of a process that has dozens of individual steps.



The Top Cover of the Framework Laptop is a CNC aluminium anodized part, just like on the Framework Laptop 13 since our 12th Gen version. Because the Top Cover is thin, the CNC process works well to leverage the strength and durability of aluminium without resulting in a large quantity of waste material. The milled out material is melted down to feed back into future aluminium enclosure material. The Bottom Cover is made of 90% post-industrial recycled magnesium alloy, while the Top Cover is made of 75% post-industrial recycled aluminium. We aim to find post-consumer recycled sources for both of these in the future. In addition to these two main structural parts, there are a number of smaller plastic inner frame and cosmetic parts, along with the magnetic attach, color-customizable bezel. These are all made of 30-35% post-consumer recycled polycarbonate (PC) or PC+ABS plastics.

This deep dive barely scratches the surface of the mechanical advancements we've made with Framework Laptop 16. We'll be continuing to share more detail throughout the year on the mechanisms, materials, and manufacturing processes that let us build a 16" high-performance laptop that is simultaneously thin, robust, and refined, while remaining simple to upgrade, repair, and customize.

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Imagine if they had a 'premium' version made out of titanium
 
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Or vibranium?
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Man I cannot wait for this. Finally a laptop with a GPU that can have the GPU upgraded down the line. I used to attempt that back in the day with gaming laptops (Going from like a 680m to a 780m or similar) with limited success. Was hard even though they were MXM port cards and should work because the cards kept slightly changing layout and I had to figure out a way to make the head spreader work. Gave up after awhile as even the brands that claimed you could upgrade the GPU would never release updated parts/head spreaders to make them work.

I will be buying this once available! I am hoping to have an AMD version on both fronts (Though I think its gonna be Intel or AMD and Nvidia for GPU's at least at first). This, mixed with a decent 120+ hz freesync panel!
 
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Man I cannot wait for this. Finally a laptop with a GPU that can have the GPU upgraded down the line. I used to attempt that back in the day with gaming laptops (Going from like a 680m to a 780m or similar) with limited success. Was hard even though they were MXM port cards and should work because the cards kept slightly changing layout and I had to figure out a way to make the head spreader work. Gave up after awhile as even the brands that claimed you could upgrade the GPU would never release updated parts/head spreaders to make them work.

I will be buying this once available! I am hoping to have an AMD version on both fronts (Though I think its gonna be Intel or AMD and Nvidia for GPU's at least at first). This, mixed with a decent 120+ hz freesync panel!
Asus C90S were supposed to be completely upgradeable. It even ran a desktop CPU. Then at 13 months the Nvidia GPU just crapped out and oh there are no upgrades and a replacement cost half as much as a new machine. That's when I learned to reflow solder in my toaster oven. That got me another 6 months out of it. I even tried to buy similar MXM spec cards, but they were a no-go.

I want one as well, but I don't see myself buying another Nvidia graphics card, I've had my fill of their BS. An Intel or AMD CPU would be fine. AMD would be my current preference for low power applications for the obvious heat/efficiency reasons.
 
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I miss the old days when laptops had bottom covers for hard drive, ram and wifi that could be removed with 1 or 2 screws.....................
 

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Why not making something way similar to the chassis of mac book pro ?
This chassis is very ugly & i won't to buy it neither at very convenient price.
 
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Why don't they cast parts (not framework per say but the laptop industry in general)? Rigidity of cnc milled meet material savings of stamping
 
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Why don't they cast parts (not framework per say but the laptop industry in general)? Rigidity of cnc milled meet material savings of stamping
several companies do cast parts
 
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Why not making something way similar to the chassis of mac book pro ?
This chassis is very ugly & i won't to buy it neither at very convenient price.

The MBP chasis is part of the reason it's not upgradedable. You to repair it, you have to have the ugly.
 
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Asus C90S were supposed to be completely upgradeable. It even ran a desktop CPU. Then at 13 months the Nvidia GPU just crapped out and oh there are no upgrades and a replacement cost half as much as a new machine. That's when I learned to reflow solder in my toaster oven. That got me another 6 months out of it. I even tried to buy similar MXM spec cards, but they were a no-go.

I want one as well, but I don't see myself buying another Nvidia graphics card, I've had my fill of their BS. An Intel or AMD CPU would be fine. AMD would be my current preference for low power applications for the obvious heat/efficiency reasons.
My MSI's never claimed to be upgradeable at least (I know that Alienware did, was not aware of the Asus) but the bios on the machines had no restrictions so long as they were in the same power envelope. I was able to get it to work with a ton of modifications and work (People online had different BIOS's to try etc) since at first it kept throttling due to weird power draw issues. However, the upgrade was not worth it after all that work I found out and then trying to go further was not possible because the next gen MXM cards were totally different to a point I would have had to make a new heat sync from scratch.

I am with you, really want a Ryzen based machine and I am hoping for an AMD card like the 6800 but I am not holding my breath on the card.
 
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The MBP chasis is part of the reason it's not upgradedable. You to repair it, you have to have the ugly.

Apple had upgradeable MacBook Pros (as upgradeable as a typical PC laptop) with their unibody design from 2009-2012. I have 3 of these and the 2 undented ones look pristine and enjoy memory and SSD upgrades to maintain functionality. And I could replace the batteries easily but they still run well enough. Apple simply chose to optimize for thinness at the expense of upgradeability. First the RAM went, then the screw-fastened battery, then the mostly industry-standard SSD, then even their custom form-factor SSD so 2 of the 3 parts you could typically replace were soldered in and the remaining one was a pain in the ass.

Apple could design a unibody MacBook Pro with replaceable memory, SSD, and battery if they wanted and still keep their bulk targets. They choose not to.
 
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