NVIDIA Cancels GeForce RTX 4090 Ti, Next-Gen Flagship to Feature 512-bit Memory Bus

[swaaye]

I seem to remember rumors of an even bigger Navi product than Navi 31, but they apparently decided to not bother with it. I suppose another configuration of chiplets. Maybe that's been used for a Radeon Pro board. Perhaps the scaling just isn't there to get it past 4090 in a reasonable manner.

 

[kondamin]

Well yeah, no one is buying consumer grade stuff all the money is in AI

 

[Vayra86]

Haha these 'leakers' have created their own full-circle 'oh rumor' 'oh cancelled' bullshit train.

And you're all buying because there's a pick of a 4 slot nondescript piece of metal? Pffff

I bet kopite7 has bought a nice number of 4090's on you guys already

 

[phanbuey]

Maybe even the reinforced slots couldn't handle it?

either that or it was cracking the t-joint point that connected board to the slot... there are so many things that can go wrong when you hang a brick, connected by a tiny T-PCB. off your motherboard.

 

[Chry]

Maybe their manufacturing is too busy baking those 10 million chips for OpenAI?

 

[Mister300]

Nothing to see here move along, AMD had a 512 bit card in 2015 my XFX 390X. And they had the Fury X too with HBM.

 

[Assimilator]

Maybe Nvidia figured no-one wanted to pay $3,000 for a consumer graphics card?

You think a 512-bit bus is gonna be cheap?

It depends on AMD. If it releases the long awaited Radeon RX 7950 XTX, then nvidia will have to do something.

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AMD Radeon RX 7950 XTX Specs

AMD Navi 31, 3300 MHz, 6144 Cores, 384 TMUs, 192 ROPs, 24576 MB GDDR6, 2500 MHz, 384 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Performance estimated based on architecture, shader count and clocks.
Performance estimated based on architecture, shader count and clocks.
Performance estimated based on architecture, shader count and clocks.
Performance estimated based on architecture, shader count and clocks.

But then, literacy has never been your strong suit.

 

[Dan.G]

Plans for a new Titan, perhaps?
I wonder what the power draw will be with that 512-bit bus...
Better have a fire extinguisher at the ready!

 

[QUANTUMPHYSICS]

GOOD. I'd hate to see all these "kids" running out trying to upgrade to yet another unnecessary/ expensive upgrade.

Just wait for the 5000 series.

BETTER YET: wait for games that actually justify the upgrade.

 

[wheresmycar]

....and there could be a gap between the RTX 4070 Ti and the RTX 4080......

Thats what i'm hoping to see too. A 16GB 4080GRE (golden reptile edition)

tbf, Nvidia already has an approachable stack of products. They just need to open the doors with big price reductions corrections and let everyone inside. The 4080 for $800, although expensive, would be an acceptable start.

NVIDIA Reportedly Cans "RTX 4090 Ti,"​

I can't get over the 4070 TIs price, the rest is just in the wind

 

[kondamin]

GOOD. I'd hate to see all these "kids" running out trying to upgrade to yet another unnecessary/ expensive upgrade.

Just wait for the 5000 series.

BETTER YET: wait for games that actually justify the upgrade.

what gives you the idea the 5000 series will be affordable/good for gamers?

 

[wheresmycar]

what gives you the idea the 5000 series will be affordable/good for gamers?

Yep, been there, done that! Oh, the optimism! Every Gen-up is just another slap in the face and a disappointment for the wallets. For a while, the optimism returned with AMD climbing the ladder but that too quickly shot down with those top tier 60/70-series.

Word of advice for the optimists: keep your resolutions small, keep your image count moderately smooth and throw epic/ultra in the bin. That will get you close to affordable.

 

[pavle]

512-bit, eh? From one extreme (128-bit on the 40504060/Ti) to the other! Looks like another GTX 280. Adios My Dineros might just bring out another HD 4870 (small, but zippy), if they get their heads out of their behinds.

 

[mechtech]

And I was so looking forward to a $5000 gaming card

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

The solution is obvious: crank the power limit to 750W (5x 8-pin), and stack some VCache on the MCDs.

If they used 3DV, if that’s even possible, they may not even need insane clocks. It would only help if Navi was starved for bandwidth though.

512-bit, eh? From one extreme (128-bit on the 40504060/Ti) to the other! Looks like another GTX 280. Adios My Dineros might just bring out another HD 4870 (small, but zippy), if they get their heads out of their behinds.

It was actually the 3870 that AMD did the small and zippy to start with. I had one and it was one heckofa card. Bioshock looked so good.

 

[N/A]

512-bit, eh? From one extreme (128-bit on

It's not extreme. but a gradual incerementation of the bus,

4090 384 bit -> 5090 512 bit.
4070 192 bit -> 5070 256 bit.

Thats what we wanted anyway but not getting it until Ada-next on the same node. Since N3 is not needed for that. 512 bit means big die double the size of AD103.

 

[Minus Infinity]

"This creates scope for new SKUs based on cut-down AD103 and the GPU's 256-bit memory bus."

The 4070 series was originally planned to be on AD103 all along and was changed to AD104 late in the game. Most likely becuase Nvidia wanted to move specs down a tier but raise prices a tier and people would gladly pay. That has backfired spectacularly, not that they give a fcuk.

Tom's Hardware is saying probably only for China though on these new cards.

 

[jigar2speed]

That 4 slot abomination must be the winner of the World's Ugliest Video Card.

That reminded me of another monster, but winner of the World's Coolest Video Card:
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What a beauty

 

[TheLostSwede]

You think a 512-bit bus is gonna be cheap?

£3.50?

 

[80251]

GOOD. I'd hate to see all these "kids" running out trying to upgrade to yet another unnecessary/ expensive upgrade.

Just wait for the 5000 series.

BETTER YET: wait for games that actually justify the upgrade.

Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition already puts the stick on my RTX 4090. If I set the shading quality to anything > high (and everything else maxed, incl. RTX), it can't maintain 60FPS @ 4K.

So there will be no full die Ada GPU, outside of HPC/AI industrial applications? Or will Titan Ada still be released to the consumer market for big, big $$$!?

 

[Chrispy_]

4090Ti cancelled?

 

[QUANTUMPHYSICS]

Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition already puts the stick on my RTX 4090. If I set the shading quality to anything > high (and everything else maxed, incl. RTX), it can't maintain 60FPS @ 4K.

So there will be no full die Ada GPU, outside of HPC/AI industrial applications? Or will Titan Ada still be released to the consumer market for big, big $$$!?

As I said: wait for the 5090!!!

 

[pavle]

...
It was actually the 3870 that AMD did the small and zippy to start with. I had one and it was one heckofa card. Bioshock looked so good.

Indeed, however Radeon HD 4870 was the one that whooped GTX 280's behind. Just look at its shading power (old but honest benchmark).

 

[Deleted member 229121]

Meh, it would have been unobtanium anyway based on price if it were a thing.

It was actually the 3870 that AMD did the small and zippy to start with. I had one and it was one heckofa card. Bioshock looked so good.

I loved my Toxic 3870 so much back in the day I bought a second
That was really only foray I had with CF though, after that I just stuck with single cards.

£3.50?

Tree-fiddy*

 

[AnotherReader]

Wiz's review shows you can gain about 7% from an overclock on 7900XTX, so I'm not sure how they're going to pull off a 30% uplift when they've already run out of core. Here's hoping though!

The non-reference 7900 XTX SKUs show more benefit from overclocking: 14 to 15%. Still, that isn't enough to catch up to the 4090 which can be overclocked too. Nvidia knows this and that's why they don't need to waste fully functional AD102 dies on a 4090 Ti.