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Shameless corporate greed enabled by the Federal government? Say it ain't so
Stewart / Colbert '24
Stewart / Colbert '24
Okay, calm down.They cannot replicate to the naked watermonkeys that inhabit the rest of the planet.
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oh... how the times have changed... it looked like Intel was going to be the Biggest company in the world(like Apple now) due to its monopoly in Computer CPU,motherboards during the 2010 era. Also they had all the time & money in the world to make an world class GPU (that can acually compete with Nvidia and AMD).. But their greedy desires and they thought they shall control the world with thier monopoly stalling CPU improvements by literally staying at 14nm++ and quad cores CPUs for like 7 years .
In the meantime,
1) Intel let TSMC catchup and overtake.. while intel is at 10nm, TSMC has already moved to 3nm.
2) if they had started making GPU at 2010+, they would easily been an 3rd player and as Good as AMD/Nvidia..Also could have taken the profits during Cryptomining + pandemic wfh sales. Intel started making GPUs right after crypto crash and world returning to normal after pandemic.
3) when intel was safely riding at 14nm CPUs for 7 years.. they let AMD bring the best and almost they are equally Good as intel CPU and sometimes even better.
So Intel have only themselves to blame.. and now they bant the Big money by playing the "WAR" or "US home company" card.
if US GOVt had said it earlier.. then samsung or TSMC wouldnt have bothered making 1 fab in US
Agree. When politicians get into tech the outcome is only one - corruption. Well, you can always add zero useful work done, too.This subsidy, like all others will never end once started. Intel will have their hands out in perpetuity, like all others who have done the same and politicians who control it will build dynasties from which you'll never get rid of them and their brood. Invariably people will wonder why Intel can't compete, why their politicians are so corrupt and no one will remember why or how the subsidy started, it will be completely forgotten by the tax payer, year after year.
Then you didn't (at least) catch the drift of my post at all. Don't exaggerate and don't generalize so easily.Jesus Christ, everyone in this thread just wants to be mad with no understanding the motivations or the objective of the CHIPS act altogether.
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Yeah except for Klamath, Northwood (okay barely, but still better than anything AMD offered for more than a year), Conroe, Yorkfield, Bloomfield, Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake, Kaby Lake -when they didn't had competitionI agree with many points but:
- they never were that good in CPU, AMD in multiple occasions showed them they're better and at least competitive,
Conroe mop the floor with A64 without an IMC.- Athlon 64 revolutionised CPUs by integrating memory controller, something which Intel copied later
Is an okay start to entering a new market- it's a failure now
Intel is still a big playerdude's a bit delusional and arrogant, thinks Intel is still the big player it was 10-15 years ago.
That's 1 win, and not as many as you counted, minimal improvements to the same architecture don't count as multiple Ws. And that's 1 Win because AMD had a terrible arch back then. Not a big W. A big L for AMD back then. Bulldozer was barely better than Phenom II at the beginning, that's AMD's making. As soon as AMD had an new architecture, Intel was losing again.Yeah except for Klamath, Northwood (okay barely, but still better than anything AMD offered for more than a year), Conroe, Yorkfield, Bloomfield, Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake, Kaby Lake -when they didn't had competition
Now that's just childish.Conroe mop the floor with A64 without an IMC.
Not really, awful drivers (at release and even now in parts) are far from "okay".Is an okay start to entering a new market
Not that big anymore and if they keep failing they will lose even more.Intel is still a big player