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Samsung Teams Up With NEXON for The First Descendant as World's First HDR10+ Title

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Samsung Electronics, a global leader in the visual display industry, today announced the launch of the world's first gaming title featuring the High Dynamic Range (HDR) 10+ GAMING standard created by HDR10+ Technologies LLC. The new title, "The First Descendant" was developed by NEXON and will be unveiled at Gamescom 2023.

"We're thrilled to join forces with NEXON, a true pioneer in video games, to introduce the world's first HDR10+ GAMING title, The First Descendant," said Seokwoo Jason Yong, Executive Vice President of the Visual Display Business at Samsung Electronics. "This is a gaming milestone that goes beyond mere technological advancement; it represents Samsung's continued commitment to enhance the gaming experience as technology evolves."



HDR10+ GAMING Technology Ushers in a New Era of Gaming
HDR10+ GAMING provides gamers with the ultimate HDR game experience through deeper color, contrast and brightness. It also enables more accurate depiction of details in dark shadows and bright highlights, which allows users to fully engage in their gaming adventure.

HDR10+ GAMING supports an optimized experience that eliminates the hassle of adjusting numerous manual settings. And it enables enhanced gameplay with near-instant responses through low latency and variable refresh rate support. Furthermore, the standard provides developers with tools that allow consistent and reliable HDR gaming experiences across all HDR10+ GAMING displays.

"The First Descendant" is the first gaming title that will fully leverage the HDR10+ GAMING standard. It is set to provide gamers with one of the most responsive, accurate and frictionless HDR gaming experiences to date.

With Global Adoption and Innovation, HDR10+ Continues To Expand
Samsung co-established HDR10+ Technologies LLC in 2018 to provide a royalty-free, open dynamic metadata standard in the industry. The HDR10+ ecosystem has now grown to comprise 155 partners and over 7,000 certified devices including TVs, monitors, projectors, smartphones, tablets, set-top boxes and more.

This collaboration with NEXON reinforces Samsung's unwavering commitment to providing superior visual experiences that go beyond entertainment and media consumption. Samsung's latest gaming monitors and TV lineups also support the HDR10+ GAMING standard, further reinforcing the company's leadership in the gaming industry.

"By adopting HDR10+ GAMING, we are bringing the game to life in a way that was previously not possible," said Hyun Kim, Executive Vice President and Deputy Head of Business Development at NEXON. "This partnership with Samsung is also raising the bar in HDR gaming, and we are excited to usher in this new standard of picture quality in video games."

The open beta test of "The First Descendant" will begin on September 19, allowing gamers around the world to experience the more realistic HDR gameplay firsthand.

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So how will it work on a non HDR monitor?
 
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Just as any other. You can toggle on/off HDR in games.

Why would anyone even play this, made for HDR, game with no HDR monitor anyway, would make no sense.
 
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Why would anyone even play this, made for HDR, game with no HDR monitor anyway, would make no sense.
It is made to support it and to work well with it, the game does not depend on it. If it's a good game I don't see why you wouldn't play it on a sdr monitor.
 
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Why would anyone even play this, made for HDR, game with no HDR monitor anyway, would make no sense.

That Neo G7 is basically the only one capable doing it. If you call 43incher a monitor.

Basically they did it for the sake of doing it... as you put out HW, but in reality nothing works with that...
 
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Why would anyone even play this, made for HDR, game with no HDR monitor anyway, would make no sense.

Since my display supports only sh*tty HDR400, I play eg. Man of Medan in SDR - the game still looks and plays awesome.
 
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Why would anyone even play this, made for HDR, game with no HDR monitor anyway, would make no sense.
Do you ever watch movies? most are "made for HDR"
 
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It is made to support it and to work well with it, the game does not depend on it. If it's a good game I don't see why you wouldn't play it on a sdr monitor.
Yeah I've already played the beta last year and that did not have HDR mode yet from what I remember and it was totally fine. 'I was using an SDR mode monitor anyway'
 
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NEXON?
As in MapleStory's NEXON?

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That Neo G7 is basically the only one capable doing it. If you call 43incher a monitor.

Basically they did it for the sake of doing it... as you put out HW, but in reality nothing works with that...

That's not really true, samsung has other HDR monitors, 32'' G7/G8, neo G9, etc. And then there's all the TV's as well.

I think the problem is HDR10+, it would be cool if it caught on but unfortunately everyone seems happy just paying the Dolby for the license fee for DolbyVision
 
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That's not really true, samsung has other HDR monitors, 32'' G7/G8, neo G9, etc. And then there's all the TV's as well.

I think the problem is HDR10+, it would be cool if it caught on but unfortunately everyone seems happy just paying the Dolby for the license fee for DolbyVision

The idea is attenuation to monitors...

also... it is like below 1% of the whole market... you make a feature for a fraction of people...
 
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HDR10+ is a dying species and Samsung is stubborn... More games will be there with DolbyVision, which is the way to go.
As Samsung has finally adopted OLED on monitors and TVs, we expect them to finally support DolbyVision too.


It will not work.
It's far from dying, amazons whole hdr library is hdr10+.

Its also superior to dolbyvision.

Also forget about Samsung supporting dv lol, they created hdr10+ for a reason, and oled has nothing to do with this.
 
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It's far from dying, amazons whole hdr library is hdr10+.

Its also superior to dolbyvision.

Also forget about Samsung supporting dv lol, they created hdr10+ for a reason, and oled has nothing to do with this.

I don't know if it is superior but it's the default standard on the HDMI spec and, most important, it's royaltee free contrary to Dolby Vision

"created hdr10+ for a reason" sounds more nefarious than I believe is warranted, yes, they didn't want to pay the Dolby ridiculous fees and royaltees but to me that's a very valid and good reason to create an alternative, and they did the right thing with it and made it available for free
 
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It's far from dying, amazons whole hdr library is hdr10+.
No. Amazon has content in three HDR formats: basic HDR10, HDR10+ and DolbyVision
Its also superior to dolbyvision.
No, never. Check it out.
Also forget about Samsung supporting dv lol, they created hdr10+ for a reason, and oled has nothing to do with this.
We don't know this. They finally adopted OLED on big displays, so it's matter on time when they finally adopt DolbyVision. They are being stubborn...
 
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it's matter on time when they finally adopt DolbyVision. They are being stubborn...

Dolby Vision costs money, HDR10+ doesn't. I don't know of any major technical advantage to Dolby Vision (couldn't find one skimming through your links either) so I don't really understand how HDR10+ doesn't simply take over. Is it because of there not being and equivalent open standard to replace Atmos for sound and bundling the two is cost efective?

Is samsung stuborn or are LG, Sony, etc. stupid for paying royaltees to Dolby?
 
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No. Amazon has content in three HDR formats: basic HDR10, HDR10+ and DolbyVision

No, never. Check it out.

We don't know this. They finally adopted OLED on big displays, so it's matter on time when they finally adopt DolbyVision. They are being stubborn...
1. No, they either have HDR10+ or they dont have an HDR version of any type. There is a handful of releases avaliable with DV, I know this because im pretty familiar with their released content on a regular basis, meaning im on private trackers.

2. It is superior, its a 3 point curve while DV is a 2 point, for example. The only format where DV can be superior is on Blu-ray using a secondary stream called FEL (Full Enhanced Layer) which is arguably rare even within DV releases.

What you linked literally means nothing so im not even gonna address it.

3. Completely different situations, one is about developing a technology and the other is about business principles.

I don't know if it is superior but it's the default standard on the HDMI spec and, most important, it's royaltee free contrary to Dolby Vision

"created hdr10+ for a reason" sounds more nefarious than I believe is warranted, yes, they didn't want to pay the Dolby ridiculous fees and royaltees but to me that's a very valid and good reason to create an alternative, and they did the right thing with it and made it available for free
The default standard is HDR10 lol.
 
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No, they either have HDR10+ or they dont have an HDR version of any type. There is a handful of releases avaliable with DV, I know this because im pretty familiar with their released content on a regular basis, meaning im on private trackers.
There is a growing amount of content in DolbyVision, usually coming together with DolbyAtmos and this trend will only grow. It's not an accident that Amazon Prime supports both dynamic metadata formats, as it allows for diversity from consumer displays point of view.

HDR10+ almost matches the capabilities of Dolby Vision but it has less content across platforms, and not as many TVs support HDR10+ as Dolby Vision. We really need both more hardware and content supporting both formats. For end-user, it should not matter. They should be able to watch content in either format on any advanced TV, rather than being victims of Samsung-LG war on formats. I am more worried about monitors that stubbornly stick to HDR10 only.
 
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