Leak Suggests AMD 6th Gen EPYC "Venice" CPUs Linked to New SP7 Socket

[T0@st]

Hardware leaker, YuuKi_AnS, has briefly turned their attention away from all things Team Blue—their latest leak points to upcoming server-grade processors chez AMD. A Zen 6 core-based 9006 EPYC CPU series, codenamed "Venice," is expected to arrive within two to three years along with an all-new SP7 socket—this information seems to have been sourced from an unnamed server manufacturer's product roadmap. A partial view of said slide also reveals forthcoming equipment powered by Intel "Falcon Shore" and NVIDIA "Blackwell" GPU technologies.

As reported a couple of months ago, older insider info has AMD using "Weisshorn" as an in-house moniker for Zen 6 "Morpheus" architecture, destined for Venice CPUs—alleged to form part of a 2025/2026 EPYC lineup. YuuKi_AnS proposes that these will utilize either 12-channel or 16-channel DDR5 memory configurations—thus providing plenty of bandwidth across hundreds of Zen cores. Altogether very handy for cloud, enterprise, and HPC workloads—industry experts reckon that 384-core counts are feasible on single packages. Naturally, a Team Red timeline dictates that Zen 5 "Nirvana" is due before Zen 6 "Morpheus," so EPYC 9005 "Turin(-X)" and 8005 "Turin-Dense" lineups are (allegedly) up for a 2024-ish launch window on SP5 (LGA-6096) and SP6 (LGA 4094) socket types.



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[bonehead123]

"More code names, more cops, more drug-sniffin dogs than you've ever seen, even your wildest dreams" - Cheech & Chong (sorta)

Seriously, who the hell knows (or cares) what stuff is gonna be called 2-3 years from now, regardless of who makes it

 

[Denver]

A new socket... Could Zen5 (maybe Zen5c or Zen5+) end up being the last AM5 compatible too? I can't imagine any technical aspect that justifies changing the socket, although.

 

[R0H1T]

DDR6 & PCIe 6.0 come to mind, one or both could become mainstream/come to desktop with zen6 3 years from now.

 

[evernessince]

A new socket... Could Zen5 (maybe Zen5c or Zen5+) end up being the last AM5 compatible too? I can't imagine any technical aspect that justifies changing the socket, although.

AMD has promised to support AM5 until at least 2025 and it has all Zen 5 variants slated for release before the end of 2024 so its likely AM5 will support one additional generation after Zen 5. That would essentially be par with AM4 if you exclude Zen+.

 

[vimsux]

Why did they rehash the codename "Venice" from AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Socket 939) ?

 

[Zubasa]

Why did they rehash the codename "Venice" from AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Socket 939) ?

Because the soruce is another Twitter/X "leak".

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Fun fact: "Venice" is also the code name for some of the later Athlon 64s in the mid-'00s! LOL

 

[Bones]

Fun fact: "Venice" is also the code name for some of the later Athlon 64s in the mid-'00s! LOL

It was and still is the name of a chip architecture used in Socket 754 and 939, not just for a single chip model (Athlon 64 3200+ "Venice").

As for the name being reused, not sure why but ATM it seems to be.

 

[natr0n]

I dont think i have ever seen so many cpu being pushed out.

But competition like intel does this I guess

 

[TumbleGeorge]

it has all Zen 5 variants slated for release before the end of 2024

I don't think so. 8000X yes, but 8000 non X, and 8000G(APU's) must be released in 2025.

 

[Minus Infinity]

I don't think so. 8000X yes, but 8000 non X, and 8000G(APU's) must be released in 2025.

Not sure about non-X, but 8000 series APU's are definitely coming 2024 from all the leaks I've seen. AMD hasn't been shy about getting Strix Point info out as we know plenty of specs.

 

[evernessince]

I don't think so. 8000X yes, but 8000 non X, and 8000G(APU's) must be released in 2025.

According to AMD's slides, they are releasing "Navi 3.5" in 2024:

Given that this is in reference to AM5 and not discrete GPUs or mobile it's likely referring to an upgraded APU graphics architecture coming out in 2024. If AMD is releasing APUs in 2024 it's also very likely that non-X CPUs will also be available.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

I do not rule out AMD confusing us with the numbering of some product line (see the mobile 7000 series with the several different architectures in it). But, since we don't have any 7000G desktop APU in stores yet, and the architecture used for the iGPU isn't rDNA4 yet... I don't know, ultimately it remains to be seen what happens when it does. Only one thing is certain. We won't get a desktop APU with ZEN 5 architecture on the CPU and rDNA 4 on the iGPU before 2025.

 

[Minus Infinity]

I do not rule out AMD confusing us with the numbering of some product line (see the mobile 7000 series with the several different architectures in it). But, since we don't have any 7000G desktop APU in stores yet, and the architecture used for the iGPU isn't rDNA4 yet... I don't know, ultimately it remains to be seen what happens when it does. Only one thing is certain. We won't get a desktop APU with ZEN 5 architecture on the CPU and rDNA 4 on the iGPU before 2025.

Well AMD has said nothing about 9000 series APU's which is really what you are referring to. Given RDNA4 won't see light of day until later next year, of course there's basically no chance APU's based on RDNA4 will appear before 2025. Also, why would they release Strix Point and Sarlak in 20024 and also their successors?

 

[TumbleGeorge]

Also, why would they release Strix Point and Sarlak in 20024 and also their successors?

To make money?

 

[R0H1T]

Well if they aren't capacity constrained why would they want to pit so many competing (AMD) products against each other? And if they are then no way they release so many product lines together, they will also need to recoup the R&D costs as well initially unless of course they plan to keep them on the market for 2-4 years!

 

[TumbleGeorge]

Intel also has a very diverse portfolio. Some of the processors in it are probably not even discussed here. Of course, there are probably news about products with such, but they do not enter the zone of interests of the more active commenters on the forum.
If we go back to AMD, if their managerial decisions lead to a loss, then the relevant employees will bear the penalty. But, this variety of products actually leverages architectures that were already built years ago. Examples are the 7020 and 7030 series mobile APUs. I don't think there is a capacity problem for them. Currently, the lithographic nodes with which they are produced are no longer on the "bloody edge".