Intel's Meteor Lake CPU Breaks Ground with On-Package LPDDR5X Memory Integration

[ToTTenTranz]

Probably not, it wouldn't make much, if any, sense.

So the Adamantine cache isn't coming to these models?

Aren't these Broadwell's "spiritual successors", APUs with unified iGPU+CPU LLC and a larger iGPU with the full Alchemist instruction set?

 

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So the Adamantine cache isn't coming to these models?

Aren't these Broadwell's "spiritual successors", APUs with unified iGPU+CPU LLC and a larger iGPU with the full Alchemist instruction set?

You'll note that that one works as an interposer, it's not meant to function as a cache.
Sharing cache between CPU and GPU is what doesn't make sense. CPU and GPU tend to access different things, they'd just end up fighting over the same cache space.

 

[Nanochip]

Isn't 6W kinda...terrible? 5W or so is the benchmark for most iGPU-only ultrabooks these days, Intel or AMD. And 8 core 12CU Rembrandt/Phoenix don't really exceed 20-25W anyway under load when on battery.

When I'm idle on my 6900HS G14 I'm also at 6W and 8-9W in video playback and office tasks. And that's with a SO-DIMM slot, dGPU (albeit MUXed) and 144Hz screen at high brightness driving up the power.

Still, not denying M1 and M2's merits, they are definitely efficient in day to day tasks.



80/96EU Iris is fine, as long as Vega 8 is serviceable then Iris is too. But like with 680M/780M you need high freq LPDDR5 to maximize performance and it's less common to find Intel laptops with that config.

That’s cool no doubt amd has been designing more power efficient x86 CPUs and meteor lake seems like it will be power efficient as well. Only time will tell.

My work laptop however uses 60W under load and the fans kick on loud unfortunately during routine tasks. Whereas my my powerful MacBook uses less watts, makes less noise, and is more powerful.

My main issue honestly with PC laptops aren’t with the hardware, but with windows. It can be a real PITA.

 

[FeelinFroggy]

Windows 11 is a hot piece of garbage.

I'm sorry, this is just not true. While I just game and use office applications on my rig, I have had zero issues with windows 11 just like the vast majority of users.

All the talk of this OS over that OS is nonsense. The fact is they are all good now (kinda like web browsers). They have used each other's successes over the past decades and are now basically all the same but with different skins.

 

[Nanochip]

I'm sorry, this is just not true. While I just game and use office applications on my rig, I have had zero issues with windows 11 just like the vast majority of users.

All the talk of this OS over that OS is nonsense. The fact is they are all good now (kinda like web browsers). They have used each other's successes over the past decades and are now basically all the same but with different skins.

That's good that you've had a great experience. But I've had a ton of problems. In the early days when Win 11 was still new, I was testing Win 11, running it from an external Samsung T7 drive, and for a few of the builds, the Windows kernel had a major bug where it was incompatible with the Samsung firmware, and merely plugging in a T7 would cause Blue Screens of death. In my case, Windows automatically updated itself to a version that couldn't boot because of a massive bug in the kernel with Samsung T7 drives. That eventually got fixed.

Then there's the issue of Windows update automatically updating radeon drivers to versions not on AMD's website, versions that are unstable and cause green screens or driver time out issues, or no communication between the driver and the power levels/fan speed. I had to manually turn off driver updates, and uninstall the Windows update version(s) and then reinstall the driver from AMD.com.

Recently there was an automatic update that caused my user account to fail to log in. In all the years I've used windows, from NT to 2000 to XP and later, I've never had that happen. Yet with Windows 11, that's a thing. I had to create a new user just to be able to use my PC.

Then there's been the host of security vulnerabilities. I've had random green screens for seemingly no reason.

Windows 11 has been a nightmare. It is not properly baked. I've been in the trenches, I know what I'm talking about. It's to the point where I don't even load Windows 11 at home AT ALL, unless I am gaming... Otherwise, I use Linux or macOS. I've had far less problems with those OSes, they are much more stable for day to day use, in my experience...

 

[FeelinFroggy]

In the early days when Win 11 was still new, I was testing Win 11 was still new

Here is your problem. You will have issues with any OS in the early days. You are testing it after all. If stability is your concern you should have never went with Windows 11 when if first came out. Most people wait to upgrade to a new OS because there are always issues. You seem like you know a little bit about computers, so I'm sure you knew that. I also guess you like to tinker, hence why you ran Windows 11 in the beginning. I think you should level set your expectations with bugs in a newly released operating system. Maybe you've had issues with certain hardware configurations, big deal that happens all the time. That's the early adopter price.