AMD Threadripper Pro 7000 Presentation Slides Leaked

[T0@st]

A trio of allegedly official presentation slides appeared on X yesterday, posted by Underfox3—the leaker stopped short of revealing the origin of this material. They simply commented: "AMD Threadripper Pro is coming...." The next generation HEDT processor family is expected to arrive in the fall, and the opening slide pretty much confirms this launch window (starting September 22—autumnal equinox). There has been a noticeable uptick in Zen 4 "Storm Peak" 7000-series pre-release units appearing online lately—so the timing seems plausible. Text segments do not mention the 7000-series in specifics, but an IHS render visible on the second slide looks somewhat similar—in shape—to a grey market-listed Threadripper Pro 7985WX. VideoCardz has compiled various leaked SKUs into a chart (see below).

A very general claim is made on the second slide—boasting a 20% performance increase over their Threadripper Pro 5000 series—but detailed information (prowess in single or multi-core tests) or in-depth benchmark results are not included. VideoCardz surmises from an interpretation of the third slide—noting: "support for 96 cores, marking a 50% boost over the TR PRO 5000 series. This suggests that the 20% improvement likely pertains to the single-core Zen 4 boost." The final slide also shows said 96-core Threadripper Pro processor tipped against Intel's Xeon W9-3495X CPU (a 56-core Sapphire Rapids candidate)—the former is said to produce 75% more renders per day. Per frame completion time is 657 second versus 1125 seconds (respectively).



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[Daven]

I don't get it. The slide says, 'Get 20% faster performance with the AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5000 series'. Shouldn't it say 'over' instead of 'with'? Or shouldn't it say 'PRO 7000' instead of 'PRO 5000'? Getting 20% faster performance 'with' doesn't make any sense.

 

[unwind-protect]

I don't get it. The slide says, 'Get 20% faster performance with the AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5000 series'. Shouldn't it say 'over' instead of 'with'? Or shouldn't it say 'PRO 7000' instead of 'PRO 5000'? Getting 20% faster performance 'with' doesn't make any sense.

Unless the new thing just sucks

 

[AnotherReader]

Unless the new thing just sucks

That's rather doubtful in this case as the number of cores has increased by 50%, IPC has increased by an average of 13% and the memory bandwidth has increased by at least 50% as well. For lower core count SKUs, clocks have been increased too.

 

[unwind-protect]

I was joking

Anyway, I just hope that the thing appears on the open motherboard and CPU market, and that the stupid vendor locking doesn't dominate.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

Let's suppose. Ryzen Threadrippep Pro 5000 series was with full 8 channel DDR4, same like Epyc Milan.
Epyc Genoa has 12 channel for DDR5. But new Threadripper 7000 has only...8 channels? Yes that is in rumors and maybe leaks? But is this real 8 channels on in count we have native 4 channels , which are multiplied by the internal channel division in the memory modules themselves, from the previous 1 channel with a 64-bit bus(DDR 4), to 2*32b, which is the organization of DDR5. And now "fake" 8 channel? 4*2(32b)=8*32b? But still DDR5, it's faster anyway and covers the magician's trick on stage.

 

[Wirko]

Let's suppose. Ryzen Threadrippep Pro 5000 series was with full 8 channel DDR4, same like Epyc Milan.
Epyc Genoa has 12 channel for DDR5. But new Threadripper 7000 has only...8 channels? Yes that is in rumors and maybe leaks? But is this real 8 channels on in count we have native 4 channels , which are multiplied by the internal channel division in the memory modules themselves, from the previous 1 channel with a 64-bit bus(DDR 4), to 2*32b, which is the organization of DDR5. And now "fake" 8 channel? 4*2(32b)=8*32b? But still DDR5, it's faster anyway and covers the magician's trick on stage.

One DDR5 channel is one 64-bit bus. Right or wrong, that's the way the industry counts channels, including Intel, AMD and motherboard makers. Among memory module makers, I've checked G.skill and they sell dual channel kits consisting of two DIMMs.

You can find 32-bits-wide channels mentioned in some whitepapers published by Micron, Rambus etc but that's about all.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

One DDR5 channel is one 64-bit bus. Right or wrong, that's the way the industry counts channels, including Intel, AMD and motherboard makers. Among memory module makers, I've checked G.skill and they sell dual channel kits consisting of two DIMMs.

You can find 32-bits-wide channels mentioned in some whitepapers published by Micron, Rambus etc but that's about all.

Who knows . See description for future Xeon processor for RAM in this article. 6 channels/12 subchannels.

 

[trsttte]

Let's suppose. Ryzen Threadrippep Pro 5000 series was with full 8 channel DDR4, same like Epyc Milan.
Epyc Genoa has 12 channel for DDR5. But new Threadripper 7000 has only...8 channels?

Just like threadripper non-pro 3000 only had 4 channels and no rdimm support because "reasons". Market segmentation is a bitch!

 

[AnotherReader]

Just like threadripper non-pro 3000 only had 4 channels and no rdimm support because "reasons". Market segmentation is a bitch!

Given the prices AMD wants for these new Threadrippers, they should have enabled all 12 memory channels. I expect these to have RDIMM support as Intel's new HEDT platform allows RDIMMs.

 

[trsttte]

Given the prices AMD wants for these new Threadrippers, they should have enabled all 12 memory channels. I expect these to have RDIMM support as Intel's new HEDT platform allows RDIMMs.

Past threadripper pro had it so I see no reason why this would change now. Regular threadripper - if it ever exists again - might get shafted again even though Intel's hedt supports it (altough it's a bit comparing apple's to oranges, intel abandoned the "non pro" level hedt platforms and regular threadripper simply had nothing directly competing with it, probably one of the reasons it's as good as dead at the moment)