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If you don't play games, this is enough; you don't need a PC.
System Name | Ryzen 1 |
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Processor | Ryzen 5800X |
Motherboard | MSI B550 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | Scythe Fuma 2 |
Memory | 32GB Patriot Viper 3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX 7800 XT 16GB |
Storage | SSD's |
Display(s) | HP X32 32" 1440p 165Hz |
Case | Phanteks P400A |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex III 750w |
System Name | Overlord Mk MLI |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets |
Memory | 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS |
Storage | 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Virtuoso SE |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Max |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w |
Sadly no. Due to the use of the Videocore from Broadcom, they're still having a lot of limitations when it comes to what the GPU can do, both in terms of 3D and video playback.You're describing getting the platform up to par. I would assume this part is taken care of by the Raspberry Pi Foundation.
After this step, I would expect running pretty much everything would be business as usual.
Doesn't make it a 5 W computer though and the idle power of most Arm chips is sub 1 W.I would imagine idle and light usage it would stay well under 10w. Just because the power brick is 5v5a doesn't mean it will use that all the time.
That's headless or a screenshot from the RPi 5? Throwing that up with no context ells us nothing.
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
Fair enough. Somehow my brain was set on headless usage for these, but yes, the plague of SoCs using proprietary, closed video (and other) drivers is still very much with usSadly no. Due to the use of the Videocore from Broadcom, they're still having a lot of limitations when it comes to what the GPU can do, both in terms of 3D and video playback.
It's always been one of the big drawbacks of the RPi.
Ethernet I'm sure they'll have figured out as well as some of the other things their xinese counterparts are struggling with, but there are still issues with the platform that are unlikely to ever be resolved, unless Broadcom decides to open up their Videocore. It's by far the biggest complaint about the platform as well.
System Name | White DJ in Detroit |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600 |
Motherboard | Asrock B450M-HDV |
Cooling | Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 |
Memory | 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319 |
Storage | Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB |
Display(s) | Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x v3 |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | Rimworld 4K ready! |
See above. We're way past that now, as the RPi 5 is none of what you're describing.
System Name | Ryzen 1 |
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Processor | Ryzen 5800X |
Motherboard | MSI B550 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | Scythe Fuma 2 |
Memory | 32GB Patriot Viper 3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX 7800 XT 16GB |
Storage | SSD's |
Display(s) | HP X32 32" 1440p 165Hz |
Case | Phanteks P400A |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex III 750w |
Not headlessThat's headless or a screenshot from the RPi 5? Throwing that up with no context ells us nothing.
System Name | Overlord Mk MLI |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets |
Memory | 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS |
Storage | 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Virtuoso SE |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Max |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w |
It's far from perfect in the x86/64 world either, but it's improving a lot faster.Fair enough. Somehow my brain was set on headless usage for these, but yes, the plague of SoCs using proprietary, closed video (and other) drivers is still very much with us![]()
Ask the people that has been pestering the RPi foundation about it.What are the use cases for big performance and a lot of bandwidth?
Yeah, I'm not going to watch a video. Did it do anything advanced with the GPU or any interface at 6 W or just running pure CPU compute benchmarks?
System Name | White DJ in Detroit |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600 |
Motherboard | Asrock B450M-HDV |
Cooling | Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 |
Memory | 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319 |
Storage | Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB |
Display(s) | Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x v3 |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | Rimworld 4K ready! |
Ask the people that has been pestering the RPi foundation about it.
Is this was to remain a low cost tinkering platform, not that many.
If you don't do work and want to play games this is enough. Most non tinkerers using the Pi are just running emulation stations and it's very good at that.If you don't play games, this is enough; you don't need a PC.
System Name | Overlord Mk MLI |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets |
Memory | 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS |
Storage | 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Virtuoso SE |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Max |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w |
I believe it has more to do with the mature software, less hassle than trying to get one of the xinese SoC up and running properly.I'm not talking tinkering platforms though, I'm talking about things like using them as control centres for mobile homes, ventilation or any scenario which includes sensors and/or user input, of which there are so many. I thought that was the reason companies gobbled up any avaliable inventory, that they are insanley useful in so many scenarios.
System Name | Ryzen 1 |
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Processor | Ryzen 5800X |
Motherboard | MSI B550 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | Scythe Fuma 2 |
Memory | 32GB Patriot Viper 3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX 7800 XT 16GB |
Storage | SSD's |
Display(s) | HP X32 32" 1440p 165Hz |
Case | Phanteks P400A |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex III 750w |
I literally qued it up right when he goes over the power consumption part. It's full fat GUI desktop while running a CPU stress test and it maxed out at 6 watts. And that's not factoring in any efficiency loss of the power brick which is probably 90%~ or so efficiency. I can't imagine adding a GPU stress adding much more. Don't piss and moan over a non context screenshot if you're not going to observe the context when someone does post it.It's far from perfect in the x86/64 world either, but it's improving a lot faster.
Ask the people that has been pestering the RPi foundation about it.
Is this was to remain a low cost tinkering platform, not that many.
Yeah, I'm not going to watch a video. Did it do anything advanced with the GPU or any interface at 6 W or just running pure CPU compute benchmarks?
System Name | Overlord Mk MLI |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets |
Memory | 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS |
Storage | 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Virtuoso SE |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Max |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w |
Processor | i9-11900K |
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Motherboard | Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 |
Memory | 4x8GB DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | Alienware RTX 3090 OEM |
Storage | OEM Kioxia 2tb NVMe (OS), 4TB WD Blue HDD (games) |
Display(s) | LG 27GN950-B |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Performance (black) |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Pro X Wireless |
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x |
Keyboard | HyperX Alloy Elite 2 |
System Name | Firelance. |
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Processor | Threadripper 3960X |
Motherboard | ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming |
Cooling | IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12 |
Memory | 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data) |
Display(s) | 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz) |
Case | Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans |
Power Supply | Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Razer Pro Type Ultra |
Software | Windows 10 Professional x64 |
System Name | Ryzen 1 |
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Processor | Ryzen 5800X |
Motherboard | MSI B550 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | Scythe Fuma 2 |
Memory | 32GB Patriot Viper 3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX 7800 XT 16GB |
Storage | SSD's |
Display(s) | HP X32 32" 1440p 165Hz |
Case | Phanteks P400A |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex III 750w |
An no eMMC or native m.2 slot on board. Have to buy a hat.They've had nearly HALF A DECADE to improve on v4 and this is what they came up with? Still no USB-C data transfer which makes it obsolete out of the gate, still using mini-HDMI WHICH HAS A ROYALTY FEE instead of mini-DP WHICH DOES NOT... or if you had USB-C ports YOU COULD JUST PIPE DISPLAYPORT THROUGH THEM.
This isn't so much insulting as it is just plain stupid.
System Name | Nebulon B |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2, 4 + 8 TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5" |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Thats more expenseAn no eMMC or native m.2 slot on board. Have to buy a hat.
I take it you want be buying oneThey've had nearly HALF A DECADE to improve on v4 and this is what they came up with? Still no USB-C data transfer which makes it obsolete out of the gate, still using mini-HDMI WHICH HAS A ROYALTY FEE instead of mini-DP WHICH DOES NOT... or if you had USB-C ports YOU COULD JUST PIPE DISPLAYPORT THROUGH THEM.
This isn't so much insulting as it is just plain stupid.
IMHO Explaining computers is one of the best sites on Youtube. He has done more in helping common people understand this sector of tech than just about anyone of late. I have a lot of respect for this man.
System Name | Ryzen 1 |
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Processor | Ryzen 5800X |
Motherboard | MSI B550 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | Scythe Fuma 2 |
Memory | 32GB Patriot Viper 3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX 7800 XT 16GB |
Storage | SSD's |
Display(s) | HP X32 32" 1440p 165Hz |
Case | Phanteks P400A |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex III 750w |
He's great. I love his clean and simple approach. And Mr. ScissorsIMHO Explaining computers is one of the best sites on Youtube. He has done more in helping common people understand this sector of tech than just about anyone of late. I have a lot of respect for this man.
System Name | Trackstar |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D -30 All Core CO (on Corsair XC5 block) |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B550 AORUS Elite V2 Rev 1.0 (F17 BIOS) |
Cooling | Corsair XD5 pump / Corsair XR5 1x 360mm (front) + 1x 420mm (top) rads |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill DDR4-3600 CL14 1:1 (F4-3600C14Q-32GVKA kit) |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX 6950XT OC Formula (on Bykski A-AR6900XTOCF-X block) |
Storage | WD_BLACK SN850X 2TB w/HS (FW ver. 620361WD) |
Display(s) | Dell S3222DGM 32" 1440p/165Hz FreeSync |
Case | Fractal Design Meshify S2 |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1200 Integrated Audio |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1200W on Liebert GXT4-1500RT120 UPS |
Mouse | Corsair Nightsword RGB |
Keyboard | Corsair K60 RGB PRO |
VR HMD | N/A |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3958) |
Benchmark Scores | https://www.3dmark.com/sw/1131940 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/29315810 |
This is the biggest thing I'm interested in. I want to get that A76 flying around at 3GHz if possible.I’ll wait for some overclocking reviews/guides to come out, then decide whether or not it’s worth the money
All that matters is how fast you can MAKE it
I agree with you thereIMHO Explaining computers is one of the best sites on Youtube. He has done more in helping common people understand this sector of tech than just about anyone of late. I have a lot of respect for this man.
You left out Stanly the knife.He's great. I love his clean and simple approach. And Mr. Scissors
System Name | Teh Beast |
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Processor | 7800X3d |
Motherboard | Strix B650E-F |
Cooling | Kraken Elite 280 |
Memory | 32GB G.skill 6000mhz |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire 7900XTX Pulse |
Storage | 1X 1TB SN850X - 1 X 4TB SN850X |
Display(s) | Samsung Odyssey 49" OLED |
Case | Lian Li o11 Air Mini |
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x |
Software | WIndows 11 Pro |
System Name | daily driver Mac mini M2 Pro |
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Processor | Apple proprietary M2 Pro (6 p-cores, 4 e-cores) |
Motherboard | Apple proprietary |
Cooling | Apple proprietary |
Memory | Apple proprietary 16GB LPDDR5 unified memory |
Video Card(s) | Apple proprietary M2 Pro (16-core GPU) |
Storage | Apple proprietary onboard 512GB SSD + various external HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27UL850W (4K@60Hz IPS) |
Case | Apple proprietary |
Audio Device(s) | Apple proprietary |
Power Supply | Apple proprietary |
Mouse | Apple Magic Trackpad 2 |
Keyboard | Keychron K1 tenkeyless (Gateron Reds) |
Software | macOS Sonoma 14.5 (with latest patches) |
Benchmark Scores | (My Windows daily driver is a Beelink Mini S12 Pro. I'm not interested in benchmarking.) |