Enabling AMD Anti-Lag+ in Counter Strike 2 Will Get You Banned

[cyberloner]

powerful amd

 

[R-T-B]

We'll never know. If we did it would undermine the function, but in a lot of cases they are using heuristics to look at behavior as well. It could be as simple as unauthorized address space, the behavior of the manipulation. Or both.

I was asking about what we DO know, as in that they use injection period.

 

[Ephebus]

And while they keep giving legit players false bans, Valve will deliberately NOT BAN the majority of real cheaters, so the game keeps getting media attention for successively breaking the number of concurrent players. Not to mention all the profits from the marketing of game items. Oh, sure, they will ban a few cheaters every now and then, but if you play a single game of CS and say nobody was cheating, you're either extremely naive or, more likely, a shill.

 

[zlobby]

Getting banned for having too good of a latency in 4k max settings
Just kidding, I like living dangerously so will report back if I do.

We salute you for your sacrifice!

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Isn't EAC sensitive, too? I wouldn't be surprised if we shortly, get reports of a slew of people getting banned! And, I mean an unprecedented amount of people getting banned!

Not just EAC, but also Vanguard.

bullets pass through enemy but you die instantly.

It can feel like most others are hacking, if you have packet loss.

Fun fact: I can enjoy Halo CE online multiplayer on a server with 280 ms ping with no packet loss and it plays so much better than low ping with packet loss!

 

[Denver]

800-1000fps and still need to use such tricks? lol

 

[GRaFkiyv]

AMD - The Best !

 

[csendesmark]

On this driver and been playing CS2 on it however saw no need to enable Anti lag+ so good here.

Hopefully they get it fixed shortly.

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you can enable the "regular" anti-lag
The issue is with anti-lag+
Sorry, my display language is in Hungarian, but it is good for the point:

This is the default setting, so practically everybody is safe

 

[Ruru]

I'm glad to joined Team Blue (Intel ARC). This Incident sounds like a bad Joke.

I balanced between Acer A770 16GB and RX 6700 XT yet I went for the latter one. Though Intel's first dGPU (since Intel740) lineup isn't too bad.

 

[RadeonProVega]

I tried to like this game, i can't. Its boring. Players spawn right next to you in deathmatch lol, hackers everywhere, just a boring game. Not sure how it gets so many players.

 

[Makaveli]

you can enable the "regular" anti-lag
The issue is with anti-lag+
Sorry, my display language is in Hungarian, but it is good for the point:
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This is the default setting, so practically everybody is safe

They are both staying off I don't need it performance is fine for me.

 

[MarsM4N]

Well, their "Anti-Lag+" kinda works. Maybe not how they intended, but there is no lag if you're banned from the game. Btw. it's not only CS2 players affected by it:

AMD Anti-Lag+ issues extend beyond CS2, reportedly affecting multiplayer games such as Call of Duty and Apex Legends - VideoCardz.com

Anti-Lag+ causing is widespread issues for online gamers Following Valve’s announcement about the issue with AMD Anti-Lag+ technology tampering with DLL files, more gamers have come forward to share their experiences with the software. It appears that this problem is much more widespread and...

videocardz.com

While I am still puzzled how AMD's CPU department is 1337 and their GPU department is tumbling from one pile of poop into the next, let's not fall into the AMD bashing. There where tons of other innocent players banned from games in the past for running other software (f.e. RGB software). The lazy anti cheat providers who straight out "pro-active" ban players are as well to blame here.

 

[PapaTaipei]

Special K can inject Nvidia Reflex onto any game, quite handy. Bad idea for MP games for the same reason, SK is a DLL.



Still are, but Valve has issued unfair bans for false positives in the past and the VAC developers always had the capability to revoke an account ban at their discretion. Said accounts are marked as unbanned rather than never banned, however.



I doubt the game runs unmodified on Windows 7, it's an unsupported version of Windows (read: unknown and untested DLLs for the engine), and with Valve killing Windows 7 support in two months you'd imagine people would have stopped insisting on it...

If you have not been banned yet you will be. VAC is not a proactive anti-cheat, it's reactive and it bans in waves. It'll flag your account and it'll be banned at a random time in the future.

Hi there, do you have any screenies of a Steam acc being publicly marked as unbanned? Never seen that and my Steam acc is from 2003.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Well, their "Anti-Lag+" kinda works. Maybe not how they intended, but there is no lag if you're banned from the game. Btw. it's not only CS2 players affected by it:

AMD Anti-Lag+ issues extend beyond CS2, reportedly affecting multiplayer games such as Call of Duty and Apex Legends - VideoCardz.com

Anti-Lag+ causing is widespread issues for online gamers Following Valve’s announcement about the issue with AMD Anti-Lag+ technology tampering with DLL files, more gamers have come forward to share their experiences with the software. It appears that this problem is much more widespread and...

videocardz.com

While I am still puzzled how AMD's CPU department is 1337 and their GPU department is tumbling from one pile of poop into the next, let's not fall into the AMD bashing. There where tons of other innocent players banned from games in the past for running other software (f.e. RGB software). The lazy anti cheat providers who straight out "pro-active" ban players are as well to blame here.

Over RGB software? This likely will result in them being embedded into BIOSes in the future.

 

[Random_User]

I wonder how this all happened at all? Antilag was present in CSGO for ages. Might be different approach.

However, considering that nV Reflex is already integrated into the game, AMD obviously "had no time" for reaching out Valve to implement own advertised features. As they are to preoccupied with MI/AI/enterprise stuff for serious gentlemen with serious funds. Why would they worry about all these "menchildren" peasants and their silly games. Thus, why bother with testing the consumer drivers then?

On the other hand, CS2 was in development not so long time ago. AMD obsiously had time to introduce their SDK to Valve, while both CS2 and Anti-Lag+ were in beta.

P.S.: I dunno about other anticheats. But if this triggers VAC, the BattleEye is even more antsy. It's the dumb mad Cerberus. Anti-cheat providers have to scratch their heads now.

Over RGB software? This likely will result in them being embedded into BIOSes in the future.

Is this even a surprise any more? The RGB sofware is so horrible in general, I wonder how it haven't been labeled as malware by now.

 

[Ruru]

Just wondering that can playing with modified GPU drivers get you banned? Better that I don't try with my 2nd PC

 

[R-T-B]

beside it works on other games so why not CS2?

Most likely AMD forgot to whitelist it with valve, as I said.

 

[Vya Domus]

Most likely AMD forgot to whitelist it with valve, as I said.

If you need to whitelist software your anticheat is crap.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Just wondering that can playing with modified GPU drivers get you banned? Better that I don't try with my 2nd PC

If it's kernel-level anti-cheat, then yes, indeed!

 

[Dr. Dro]

Hi there, do you have any screenies of a Steam acc being publicly marked as unbanned? Never seen that and my Steam acc is from 2003.

It's not shown in a Steam profile. You need to use a Steam data website like the SteamDB calculator or vacbanned.com

 

[R-T-B]

If you need to whitelist software your anticheat is crap.

If you are using injection there isn't any other way for the anticheat to know friend from foe. It's the same reason wine users get banned.

I mean if you want to make that argument then AMD needed to program this differently.

 

[1d10t]

Nothing new for online players, considering these anti cheat already doing false detection even with obnoxious and hostile services like Riot's Vanguard.
Personally I once got a VAC ban because the ping was too slow, yeah you read that right. Considering I left CS:GO because aimbots were rampant, I'm kinda surprised they are starting to get serious about fighting cheaters again.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Nothing new for online players, considering these anti cheat already doing false detection even with obnoxious and hostile services like Riot's Vanguard.
Personally I once got a VAC ban because the ping was too slow, yeah you read that right. Considering I left CS:GO because aimbots were rampant, I'm kinda surprised they are starting to get serious about fighting cheaters again.

High ping has never ever resulted in a VAC ban. Match abandonment in ranked games can result in game bans, however. These are not VAC bans but bans issued directly by the developer for unacceptable conduct.

In some games, said bans will display alongside VAC bans on a Steam profile, but the profile will remain in good standing with VAC, and game bans apply on a per-title basis.

 

[LabRat 891]

High ping has never ever resulted in a VAC ban. Match abandonment in ranked games can result in game bans, however. These are not VAC bans but bans issued directly by the developer for unacceptable conduct.

Correct me if I'm wrong but,
couldn't malware that's intercepting, inspecting, and altering TCP/IP packets
or
bad hardware that's 'inconsistently' dropping packets
also 'trigger' an actual VAC Ban?

I'm asking/mentioning as I recall devices for the Xbox 360 that did similar, and were a PITA for msft to detect and ban.
IIRC, the eventually-found un-bannable 'trick' was using a physical switch on one of the Ethernet conductors/pairs, to simulate (on-demand) an 'ISP/Network problem' while not-entirely disconnecting the 'hacker/exploiter'.
If done quick-enough, an exploiter could 'freeze' everyone else in the game (they hosted),
frag them, then re-enable proper LAN/WAN function.

I wonder if VAC has a detection mechanism for this kind of dumb hardware-level TCP/IP exploit?

 

[Ruru]

If it's kernel-level anti-cheat, then yes, indeed!

No idea though. I'm more a hardware nerd and somewhat a noob what it comes to software.