NVIDIA to Start Selling Arm-based CPUs to PC Clients by 2025

[MrDweezil]

The only thing Microsoft cares about is getting Windows on as many different devices as possible. They don't care whether those devices are x86, Arm, RISC-V, or your toaster, because any which way Microsoft wins.

They need to care enough to make each of those versions to run well, which isn't the case today. Apple threw their weight behind Arm and got everyone to make Arm binaries. What's Microsoft committed to do?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

They need to care enough to make each of those versions to run well, which isn't the case today. Apple threw their weight behind Arm and got everyone to make Arm binaries. What's Microsoft committed to do?

Not much.

They might though, there has already been a lot of time and work put in to make windows modular, and in both Arm and other OS support.

That's the one place I think apple self harm's, piss poor file type support cross OS, it doesn't help anything and hinders adoption.

 

[KLMR]

The potential is the next generation of consoles: a closed ecosystem that could benefit from ARM.
Specially Xbox running VMs.
Then you involve game developers and its the seed to move to the standard PCs.

 

[leorojasma]

this is dumb
MS tried it some years ago and it was dumb, it still remains a dumb idea

I dont see it dum at all.

Apple M1 chip changed the landscape completely , i think you are underestimating the power that ARM processors is bringing. I mean... the super efficiency and power of that technology is clearly the future, is beyond me how Intel is so relax thinking that changing the software will be too much of a hassle to everyone shift.

Hell even i, a 30 year Windows User and developer i am thinking into buying a M1~M3 mac book.

Those machines are amazing! Their long battery, low temps and high power, is astonishing.

 

[Denver]

I dont see it dum at all.

Apple M1 chip changed the landscape completely , i think you are underestimating the power that ARM processors is bringing. I mean... the super efficiency and power of that technology is clearly the future, is beyond me how Intel is so relax thinking that changing the software will be too much of a hassle to everyone shift.

Hell even i, a 30 year Windows User and developer i am thinking into buying a M1~M3 mac book.

Those machines are amazing! Their long battery, low temps and high power, is astonishing.

What alien world do you live in anyway? In the real world, there are no ARM CPUs that are magically much more efficient than x86 in the same process.

 

[leorojasma]

What alien world do you live in anyway? In the real world, there are no ARM CPUs that are magically much more efficient than x86 in the same process.

Haven't you tested the Apple Silicon machines?

I had used Apple intel based machines and now Apple Silicon and the difference is day and night on the same workloads, so... what are you talking about?

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[Denver]

Haven't you tested the Apple Silicon machines?

I had used Apple intel based machines and now Apple Silicon and the difference is day and night on the same workloads, so... what are you talking about?

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Since when is intel using an inferior process a benchmark for efficiency in anything? AMD was able to achieve similar or better efficiency than M1/M2(5nm) in many scenarios using a 6nm chip(6800U). You will probably see a very large difference in efficiency in tasks accelerated by M1/M2 ASICs, etc.

 

[leorojasma]

Since when is intel using an inferior process a benchmark for efficiency in anything? AMD was able to achieve similar or better efficiency than M1/M2(5nm) in many scenarios using a 6nm chip(6800U). You will probably see a very large difference in efficiency in tasks accelerated by M1/M2 ASICs, etc.
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So... i have a Core(TM) i9-13900HX on a Lenovo Legion and it's brand new, and my battery doesn't pass over 2 hours, even less than that.

But my office MacBook 167 (M1 Ultra) i dont even take my charger when i use it outside. Is ridiculous how much more the battery performs

What it's the deal here?

 

[KLMR]

2024.
Correlation between cpu "tdp" and battery life... please if there is, close notebookcheck.
Correlation between a closed ecosystem controlled from cpu design, OS, to software with lazzintel... maybe someone programing macosx deserves some credit.

Intel monopolized laptop CPUs for over a decade lets say 2005-2017, and did nothing good for the sector. Most Lenovos/Dell good lines have been kidnapped in the past 5 years by Intel while AMD has been doing extraordanry cpus (~4 years) which were unable to sell: not in XPS* or Thinkpad* lines because of contracts. People started noticing AMD performance since its first generation but it took 3 generations to be spread, because of the contracts. *That has changed in the past 2-3 generations.

What Apple did was to close even more their ecosystem by designing its own cpus. As Google did, as Amazon did, and other brands in the datacenter space. Why is so many people designing its own ARM and RISC5 cpus? Why not x86 but ARM? LICENSES. It takes a decade starting from scractch to have something competitive, and people who tried that path with x86 was acquired, squashed or "seduced".

That is why NVIDIA may Start Selling Arm-based CPUs to PC Clients by 2025, because they don't have an x86 license in the first place. As nobody except AMD and Zhaoxin.
US and its "free market", full of monopolies, duopolies, oligopolies, patents, licences and Mickey Mouse. What an example for the free world. The standard oil breakup? The hollywood studios breakup? Things of the past.