And what bias would that be? I'd love to hear what I'm a shill for this time. Assuming you can name it, that is.
Your first argument was a kind of personal attack. Just send it back to you.
Your argument was that a 4080 launching was DOA because the 4090 existed. You took a lower product in the same stack and applied it to this, which is parts from an OBSOLETE previous gen stack being launched after their replacements have already been on the market. Now you cant refute that so you set up a strawman about different VRAM RTX 3000 series, which has nothing to do with the example you provided.
Oh come on. I am replying to YOUR EXAMPLE. You talked about a 4080 super AFTER 5090. So I gave you an example of a 3000 series card AFTER 4000 was released.
But I guess it's easier to reject the example than giving an answer here. Does your reply here answer your question? I think it does.
Tell me something. An RTX 3070 with 16GB of VRAM at $300, wouldn't be a good reason for many to choose the older series than the newest? What do you think those X3D chips are meant for?
These sales were common, spread all over the internet, and available on such hard to find sites as newegg and ebay. See, you ASSUMED with no evidence that I was quoting microcenter deals, making an arse of yourself in the process.
Hello strawman? (not biased he says....) You focus on Microcenter, you ignore everything you don't have an argument about. There are so many sales this period in Greece (some companies are advertising "Black November" to justify an extensive period of sales) that I would need to buy a warehouse first to grab them all. I am ignoring a number of sales, because I don't have the time and the immediate need for all those products. But next month I might need one of those and yes. And yes, I will pay more to buy it then, compared to today.
Just calm down for a minute and think about it. If that level of performance, at a lower price pre inflation crisis, wasnt enough to upgrade, why would a higher price at a time where spending is being cut back be appealing? Especially that now the 7000 series is out, and AMD isnt getting any newer zen chips. Assuming you were that strapped for cash that you are only now looking at upgrading on AM4, there are a whole host of gently used ryzen 5000 chips for WAY cheaper then this that will provide a nice boost for less $$$. This is targeting a niche of a niche market. It doesnt make a whole lot of sense, especially nearly 2 years after AM4 was EOL'd.
Look, I am pretty calm down, but I am going to stop replying to you, because you are NOT replying to me, you are just made "an arse of yourself in" no time. You just take one word or half my sentence, completely distort it to create a non existing argument, ignore anything it doesn't suits you and then talk about strawmans and flawed logic.
Anyway. Think at least this. If AMD is throwing new models in the market, they have done their research and they know there are people in the DIY market that want those options to not change platform. And considering that those people are people on a budget, they are probably going to Intel, an i5 with more cores than an R5, even if many of those cores are E cores and probably a cheap mobo with DDR4 support. AMD is trying to keep that target group on AM4, as long as possible.