NVIDIA Halts Production of RTX 4070 Ti and RTX 4080 to Make Room for SUPER

[LabRat 891]

By extension, I guess we really are getting a Navi 3x refresh?

Why a Ti SUPER. What.
Historically SUPERS have fallen in between the non-Ti and Ti cards. Now they're... better? Worse? I don't know.

They couldn't figure out what Titan meant, when the model branding first appeared, either.
IIRC, the 780Ti was a more full-fat card than the OG Titan.

 

[rv8000]

By extension, I guess we really are getting a Navi 3x refresh?


They couldn't figure out what Titan meant, when the model branding first appeared, either.
IIRC, the 780Ti was a more full-fat card than the OG Titan.

Theres not much left to wring out of navi31 without releasing a 7950XTX that isnt consuming 600w at stock. 7900XTX has a large amount of headroom when modded with the asrock 666w bios, but given the hate AMD gets (at least here), the internet would never hear the end about power usage.

 

[LabRat 891]

Theres not much left to wring out of navi31 without releasing a 7950XTX that isnt consuming 600w at stock. 7900XTX has a large amount of headroom when modded with the asrock 666w bios, but given the hate AMD gets (at least here), the internet would never hear the end about power usage.

Fair. But, the market at large has already been accepting 450-600W+ GPUs.
3x(4x AIB partner) 8-pin input 7950XT(X)s would be well positioned as a high-end option alongside the continuing news of the new PCIe power plugs melting, still.

I'm thinking along the lines of the Radeon HD4890 or 7970GHz Edition.
(IIRC, the 7900GRE mobile is already slightly revised silicon)

 

[Xaled]

I still dont know what Ti even stands for

it is from cheaTIing users by making 904835 versions of the same card.
In laptops they don't use naming anymore, 185w, 150w, 125w, 100w versions of the same card. And many vendors don't even explain that.
Things are really getting out of hands..

 

[Gmr_Chick]

I still dont know what Ti even stands for

It was short for "titanium" I believe.

 

[Minus Infinity]

The only way the 4080 Super makes any more sense than the vanilla 4080 is if it gets a price drop to $999.

Otherwise its just going to be as unappealing as always. People with that sort of cash will still just rather spend a bit more for the full fat 4090.

Well that's exactly what Tom at MLisD has said, 4080 Super will be $999, but 4090 will be basically unavailable for at least 6 months and will be $2K+ even if you can get one. They want to make people forget the 4090 for now and entice them onto a 4080 S.

4070 Ti S sounds like the value proposition as it gets the biggest performance uplift and 33% more memory than the 4070 Ti and will be same price.

 

[bonehead123]

No thanks, I'll just wait for the SuperDuperQuadUltraMegaHexaOC Dilithium edition to come out, hehehe

 

[Easo]

Well what would you say? the 4080 staying where it is and the 4080 Ti being placed between the 4080 and 4090?
Why would you then not pay a little bit extra and get teh 4090? same reason why right now the 4080 is so unpopulair.

Does it looks like NVidia goes by that logic? People are buying the expensive cards, they will buy these as well.

 

[mama]

Ho, ho, ho. Yes, halting production of the most poorly received and worst selling graphics cards in a decade for Nvidia. I am positive production halted many months ago from the lack of sales and the need to restrict "the pipeline" to stabilize the stupid pricing.

 

[ratirt]

NV must have sold a bit of those for sure considering the pricing. Wonder, what price will the supers get and how many variations will be there. Super Ti someone said. or Ti Super.
Wonder what the price will be for those but something tells me, it wont be better. Not much of a value to be fair but we will see.

 

[N/A]

4070 Ti Super 10% faster, 5070 Ti 50% faster, so pointless.

 

[Broken Processor]

Sorry but I'm not buying an 1000 quid card based on 103, I can't see how anyone would think that's good value. Yes it's better than the 4080 card but then again so would a shoe box full of cat litter and the super will still be extremely poor value for money. I'm saddened that this is the way the enthusiast market has gone.

 

[ZoneDymo]

Does it looks like NVidia goes by that logic? People are buying the expensive cards, they will buy these as well.

Im not sure what you are trying to say, I never denied that people buy expensive cards, im saying the reason the 4080 is not selling well is the existence of the 4090.
1200 for the 4080 or 1500 for the 4090, those that are going to spend that much money are just going for the best of the best anyway, the price difference at that scale is not that big.

so what is there to gain from slotting another card in between? again people will just buy the 4090 instead, which is why that strat would make little sense.

 

[Vayra86]

4080 for 1000
4080 super for 1200, the current 4080 price point.

Not something I would care for, it would not even be a good deal, but it being Nvidia, I think not even that will happen.....

Nah, MSRP 1099 at best, and then sellers can slash into their margins a bit more to get it down to 1000.
Come on, its 16GeeBee man. Can't sell that under 1k. You can play with this card for at least 3 years, so that's way past Nvidia's next release date, they need to tax that.

 

[INSTG8R]

Who's buying AMD anyways?

I just bought a Hellhound 7900XTX and am absolutely loving it! Now it was more out of necessity because my 6950XT is borked and is going to go through a longer than normal RMA. That said No Regerts!

Theres not much left to wring out of navi31 without releasing a 7950XTX that isnt consuming 600w at stock. 7900XTX has a large amount of headroom when modded with the asrock 666w bios, but given the hate AMD gets (at least here), the internet would never hear the end about power usage.

I mean I just bought a Hellhound and putting through the torture tests it was maxing out at a hair under 400W. Stock is 365W if I put in a power limited scenario like Time Spy.

 

[Vayra86]

It should be 4070 TiTi, double the Ties, double the price!

Yeah, missed opportuntiti.

 

[Assimilator]

No, I won't; that is your homework to do, not mine.

Go back to school kid. If you make a claim it's your responsibility to back it up with evidence. The reason you aren't is because you can't, because you're a fanboy who lacks logic.

 

[wolf]

Like I've said before, I could care less what they're called, what matters is performance, specs, features for a give price - and sadly I don't have high hopes there either. Feels like an 80 class product coming back to well under a thousand (not 999) is a pipedream, especially when virtually unchecked by competitors, or them also being very comfy with their margins and price points.

 

[freeagent]

Wow I can’t believe I spent all this money on a discontinued card just a few months ago.. awesome. I won’t share the rest of my thoughts..

 

[INSTG8R]

Wow I can’t believe I spent all this money on a discontinued card just a few months ago.. awesome. I won’t share the rest of my thoughts..

 

[freeagent]

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We all have, by supporting them, and by them I mean both companies.

 

[INSTG8R]

We all have, by supporting them, and by them I mean both companies.

I totally agree I just bought a 7900XTX….I”m just as guilty but pretty darn happy

 

[freeagent]

I totally agree I just bought a 7900XTX….I”m just as guilty but pretty darn happy

Don’t get me wrong, I paid much less for my card than what they are advertised for right now, but that isn’t the point. Just sick of supporting scumbags I guess.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Don’t get me wrong, I paid much less for my card than what they are advertised for right now, but that isn’t the point. Just sick of supporting scumbags I guess.

Trouble is, we will keep doing it as we have no other choice. either that or quit AAA gaming, or wait for Intel and their GPU's. some people whine about Nvidia, then you look at their specs and they have a 4090

 

[freeagent]

either that or quit AAA gaming

Just long enough to send a message.. or else things will never improve.