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Set Your Calendars: Windows 12 is Coming in June 2024 with Arm Support and AI Features

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Microsoft is preparing a big update for its Windows operating system. Currently at version 11, the company is gearing up for the launch of Windows 12, which is supposed to bring a monumental shift in the tectonic plates of the regular PC user experience. Enhanced by AI, the Windows 12 OS should utilize many features like generative AI, large language models, some GPT integration, and many other tools that could benefit AI, like photo editors. The confirmation for the Windows 12 launch coming in 2024 is sourced from the Taiwanese Commercial Times, which analyzed comments from Barry Lam, the founder and chairman of PC contract manufacturer Quanta, and Junsheng (Jason) Chen, the chairman and chief executive of Acer.

Both of them underscored the importance of AI and that AI PCs are coming with the next version of Windows. Supposedly, the launch date for Windows 12 is set for June 2024. In that timeframe, hardware vendors should roll out their SoCs embedding AI processing elements at every silicon block. Qualcomm is set to debut its Snapdragon Elite X SoCs in mid-2024, aligning with the alleged release schedule of Windows 12. With more players like NVIDIA, AMD, and others planning to utilize an Arm instruction set for their next-generation PC chips, we expect to see Windows 12 get full-fledged support for Arm ISA and treat it like a first-class citizen in the OS.



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OMG, where are we going to end up when they remove support for W10!?
 
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So i got a date when i have to be finished with my migration towards Linux. Great to know. Also i will have to avoid any further upgrade at my service partition.
 
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OMG, where are we going to end up when they remove support for W10!?
Maybe Linux, steam deck might be the push needed for more and more gaming support away from Windows.

Good bad good rule for Windows might be gone now.

Shame Vulkan didnt have higher take up.
 
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I, for one, might actually give Linux distros a serious look.
I already have a partition dedicated to Linux that I'm using quite frequently. The problem is that when it comes to basic usage, Linux proves more than sufficient, but as soon as you start venturing a bit beyond that, headaches begin to arise.
Maybe Linux, steam deck might be the push needed for more and more gaming support away from Windows.

Good bad good rule for Windows might be gone now.

Shame Vulkan didnt have higher take up.
The driving force of Steam has always been a great hope for me, but judging by how Counter-Strike 2 runs on Linux (at least on my machine with an Nvidia GPU, so proprietary drivers...), the effort of Valve Corporation doesn't seem very determined to me.
 
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but judging by how Counter-Strike 2 runs on Linux (at least on my machine with an Nvidia GPU, so proprietary drivers...), the effort of Valve Corporation doesn't seem very determined to me.
it runs as bad on radeon in linux.
half the framerate of windows, stuttering, lags...
 
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I already have a partition dedicated to Linux that I'm using quite frequently. The problem is that when it comes to basic usage, Linux proves more than sufficient, but as soon as you start venturing a bit beyond that, headaches begin to arise.

The driving force of Steam has always been a great hope for me, but judging by how Counter-Strike 2 runs on Linux (at least on my machine with an Nvidia GPU, so proprietary drivers...), the effort of Valve Corporation doesn't seem very determined to me.
but just a few years ago even running any game on linux was a pipe dream, maybe by the time windows 12 comes out the gap will be even closer?
So far what's keeping me from jumping fully on linux is just games and a few rare use-cases that I can't replicate in linux (like photoshop's text manipulation). I'm so close to running "linux with a win VM just in case" but it's still a problem.
I've tried a few distros and the one with the nicer experience seemed to be Garuda Linux (both on performance and ease of use).

I mostly blame Unreal Engine for choosing DX12 instead of Vulkan, we could be having a much easier time by now...
 
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What was the popular joke: 7-good, 8-bad, 10-good, 11-bad, so 12 must be good yeah? ;) Hope I don't have to use a "bypass" reg file on each fresh install, because my "CPU isn't supported".
 
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What was the popular joke: 7-good, 8-bad, 10-good, 11-bad, so 12 must be good yeah? ;) Hope I don't have to use a "bypass" reg file on each fresh install, because my "CPU isn't supported".
the joke was more like: xp-good, vista-bad, 7-good, 8-bad, 10-?
I wouldn't say 10 managed to be good, it's just 7 with updates and DX12 and a lot of added bloat, but sure it wasn't as bad as 8 or 11.
 
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dont Really need that bloat in my OS though.
The issue for me is not so much the bloat, which can be removed with some effort, but reaching a point where I no longer trust an operating system that increasingly focuses on acquiring data not to my advantage.
 
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Who said Windows 10 would be the last Windows?
 
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Sign... first Windows 11 which is simply a upgrade version of Windows 10.
Than now Windows 12, Microsoft should just call it.
Windows 10 Service Pack 3.

Seriously Windows 11 feels like Windows 10 Service Pack 2 but they won't name
it that way. Since Win 12 is on the way, Win 10 will be like Win 7 be killed off
eventually.

Win 11 hardware requirement is quite demanding, not sure about Win 12.
 
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So they copied the worst thing they could have copied from Apple. Yearly OS releases.
What's next? Slowing down older PCs in order to push for new, useless hardware, such as Apple's iPhones, which are basically identical since 11th Gen?
 
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So they copied the worst thing they could have copied from Apple. Yearly OS releases.
What's next? Slowing down older PCs in order to push for new, useless hardware, such as Apple's iPhones, which are basically identical since 11th Gen?

Moar Rust, moar speed, moar secure.....
 
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I already have a partition dedicated to Linux that I'm using quite frequently. The problem is that when it comes to basic usage, Linux proves more than sufficient, but as soon as you start venturing a bit beyond that, headaches begin to arise.
What I personally need is adequate performance in games I play (none really AAA, one UE based and a tad taxing I suppose, but might change up until issue becomes relevant) and development stack with Visual Studio + DB + local web server having adequate performance.
 
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