NVIDIA Planning More from the G92

[Jimmy 2004]

After the success of the new GeForce 8800 GT, it looks like NVIDIA could have another card based on the same G92 core planned for later this year. Dubbed the new 8800 GTS (yes, I know it's confusing - hopefully that will change) the new G92 card will feature 128 shader units instead of the 112 on the 8800 GT, which would suggest they could well exist on current 8800 GT cards and have been disabled for marketing or yield purposes. As it features a 256-bit memory interface it will go back to the more common 512MB and 1024MB memory blocks, and given how impressively the 8800 GT performs it's expected it may be able to surpass NVIDIA's 8800 GTX and possibly even the Ultra - NVIDIA's two best cards. The card is expected to launch just after AMD's Radeon HD 3800, and could well spoil the show for AMD if it performs as well as the speculation suggests.

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[kwchang007]

Dang, when are they going to through a 512 bit bus on and bump up the shaders to like 140.

 

[erocker]

This card is going to be fast! More shaders than the GT plus I'm sure with a better dual slot cooler, and higher clock speeds. Above Ultra performance for current GTS prices.

 

[jocksteeluk]

i think the numbering schemes are no being purposefully confusing to trick people into purchasing the older stock, even with the different memory amounts people will still get confused. I think i shall wait for all the product revisions to happen before i buy a new card.

 

[erocker]

I wont.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

im already confused & i am yet again....

after releasing a 8800 GT a few weeks ago, now they are releasing another 8800GTS which i now dub thee 'Big Daddy Edition' of all 8800GTS's?!?!?!
they have got to cut down with the names & new models which have very little difference from the old versions

 

[Jimmy 2004]

im already confused & i am yet again....

after releasing a 8800 GT a few weeks ago, now they are releasing another 8800GTS which i now dub thee 'Big Daddy Edition' of all 8800GTS's?!?!?!
they have got to cut down with the names & new models which have very little difference from the old versions

Think of it as an 8800 GT2 - I'm not sure whether GTS is an official NVIDIA name or whether it's just speculation by DailyTech, I'd hope NVIDIA is smarter than that but who knows?!

 

[mab1376]

time to sell my old 8800GTS for a new one!

 

[substance90]

time to sell my old 8800GTS for a new one!

That would be the dumbest thing EVER! Why would you get a card with lower memory, lower bus speed and more SPs? There will be an improvement, but it won`t be worth the money.

 

[renozi]

I'll wait for the G98's in Jan/Feb.

 

[substance90]

I'll wait for the G98's in Jan/Feb.

Me, too, but we don`t have any real release dates. We don`t even know if it will be called G98 or G100 or whatever.

 

[SK-1]

time to sell my old 8800GTS for a new one!

Are you talking trading your current card for the 8800GT or the yet to be released "Big Daddy-8800GTS?

 

[renozi]

Me, too, but we don`t have any real release dates. We don`t even know if it will be called G98 or G100 or whatever.

We'll just call it D8E for Desktop 8th generation Enthusiast says Fudzilla.

 

[newbielives]

I wonder should they release their big guns now to milk Crysis while they can because soon after, I can't think of any PC games worth upgrading for.

Perhaps Farcry 2 and Project Offset but everything else is pretty much just console ports.

 

[WarEagleAU]

I dont see this spoiling the HDXXXX release from ATI. Especially since the price should be reasonable.

 

[happita]

I dont see this spoiling the HDXXXX release from ATI. Especially since the price should be reasonable.

i dont know. with all this pre-speculation and rumor posts of the new amd series vs nvidias new 8800gt comparisons, it sure puts a sour taste in my mouth. but it wont change my decision on what i want in the near future. although if those rumors are true, amd better saddle up and get ready for another nvidia hard-hitter

 

[Conti027]

i'll just upgrade when its time to who ever has the best card out.

 

[nflesher87]

poor AMD just can't catch a break

nVidia AND intel bashing it from both sides...

 

[OnBoard]

And then there is going to be the 256MB version of 8800GT, so same time on the market:

8800 GTS 320MB 320BIT
8800 GT 256MB 256BIT
8800 GTS 640MB 320BIT
8800 GT 512MB 256BIT
8800 GTX 768MB 384BIT
8800 GTS 512MB 256BIT "big daddy" (FreedomEclipse quote)
8800 Ultra 768MB 384BIT
8800 GTS 1024MB 256BIT "big daddy"

Oh and that's my speculation of the speed order Will be VERY confusing end of the year.

 

[15th Warlock]

Darn! I was about to place an order for the 8800GT tomorrow! Are you guys sure this card is coming? when is the HD3800 gonna be released to get a rough estimate on when nVidia will release this new card?

Anyone have any idea? Now I'm definetely holding up my purchase of the 8800GT, anyway, wasn't going to be able to use it until Nov. 12, as I'm waiting for the nForce 780i mobos to come out... Just that I wanted to spread out my expenses over two months...

Geez, the things we are seeing now, its been many years since so much power has been available for the masses, what with Intel cheap Q6600 procs being capable of OCing beyond the more expensive parts, and with nVidia mainstream parts reaching the performance of parts almost 2x their price!

Seems like both nVidia and Intel have taken upon themselves to bring this revolution to the mainstream, and AMD can do nothing but lower the prices of their products, which is good for the consumer in the end!! There's not been such an exciting time to upgrade in many years!

 

[niko084]

I just hope they really are getting good at knocking the power requirements down...

 

[mysticjon]

well all i can say is....lets hope they dont repeat what happened when they released there 8series lol....."oh microsoft code us drivers" wine wine

 

[newconroer]

|time to sell my old 8800GTS for a new one! |

|That would be the dumbest thing EVER! Why would you get a card with lower memory, lower bus speed and more SPs? There will be an improvement, but it won`t be worth the money.|


Shoot, tell that to the people considering trading in their current cards for GTs, let alone a new GTS.



|There's not been such an exciting time to upgrade in many years!|


Oh, just wait for Nehalem chips and 9800 cards next year, indeed exciting!

 

[newconroer]

The other issue is that there's nothing clear cut in terms of 'specs.'


Apparently this GTS with 128 shader units, 256 bit interface and 512 or 1024mb is false, or at least it's not slated for production..yet.


The GTS that might be coming soon is a revised G80 (not G92) 640MB (no 320s). An internal SP will be enabled bringing the shader units up to 112, but no VP2 and other features found in the G92.


This seems to make more sense, so that the revised GTS will move into the bottom rankings of the 8800 G80 or newer GPUs, with the GT in the middle, and GTX still on top. The 320 versions are already on end of life status, and so too will be the original GTS.


It's not to say that there won't be a G92 GTS, but it may not appear until sometime after ATi's launch.


Personally, I don't expect anything at this point, because the GT got promoted ahead of time, yet any new GTS or GTX is very short of information. We know more about the 9800s than either of those two.

 

[zOaib]

WELL , if they bump up the memory to 1gb and shaders to 128 , they definately need to give it a 512bit mem bus 256bit is like humiliating and holding back on the power of the card ...... but anyways i sold my hd 2900 xt while there are still ppl buying them for 485 dollars i paid 489 for it so no tears there , and bought meself a gigabyte 8800 gt .............. for 269.99 which makes me happy since i saved money and i got a card that blows everything but the gtx (at stock) , although love ati , but nvidia finally did something worth while and confusing , lol