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TSMC 2 nm Node to Debut in 2025 with Apple SoCs for the iPhone 17 Pro

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TSMC's 2 nm-class foundry node, dubbed N2, will enter mass production only in 2025, a report by the Financial Times says. The premier Taiwan-based foundry has been reportedly showcasing TSMC N2 to its biggest customer for advanced nodes, Apple. The node will likely power Apple's in-house silicon that drives the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max devices that are slated for 2025. This implies that the current 3 nm class nodes from TSMC will continue to power Apple silicon into 2024 and its iPhone 16 Pro/Pro Max.

The current Apple A17 Pro and M3 chips powering the iPhone 15 Pro/Max and the H2-2023 Macs are based on TSMC's N3 node, with a 183 MTr/mm² transistor density. TSMC has four other 3 nm-class nodes, with the N3E node that just entered mass production to offer a jump to 215.6 MTr/mm², and its 2024 successor, the N3P, pushing transistor densities further up to 224 MTr/mm². TSMC's first 2 nm-class node, the N2, offers a jump to around 259 MTr/mm², which makes the N3P a nice halfway point for Apple between the N3 and N2, for its 2024 silicon.



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Hi,
Apple not sure what's up with them they keep adding stuff that makes no sense first 17.1.2 now some more crap in 17.2 lol
Just ruined contacts with some silly ass contact poster picture bs that takes up the entire screen so you can't even end a call lol

Other silly crapware it's just never ending mascaraing and bundled into so called bug fixes and patches.

Only bugs is Apple.
 
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Hi,
Apple not sure what's up with them they keep adding stuff that makes no sense first 17.1.2 now some more crap in 17.2 lol
Just ruined contacts with some silly ass contact poster picture bs that takes up the entire screen so you can't even end a call lol

Other silly crapware it's just never ending mascaraing and bundled into so called bug fixes and patches.

Only bugs is Apple.
Ummm, wut?
 
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Interesting to cite the numbers on density, the "XYZ Class Nodes" Can feel a tough misleading at face value without the further explanation.
 
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I get a sense this "2nm" is really just a 3nm+. The name don't mean anything since anyone can name their product what they want.
 
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I get a sense this "2nm" is really just a 3nm+. The name don't mean anything since anyone can name their product what they want.
No, there are actual and sufficient differences that it would not be correct to refer to it as part of the "3"nm nodes.
 
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I get a sense this "2nm" is really just a 3nm+. The name don't mean anything since anyone can name their product what they want.
This was the case for 4nm being a refined 5nm, but it is certainly not the case for 2nm being a refined 3nm this is especially true of N2P in 2026 which dumps FinFET for GAAFET.
 
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I get a sense this "2nm" is really just a 3nm+. The name don't mean anything since anyone can name their product what they want.
3nm+ is also just a marketing gimmick.
 
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