Intel Fattens the U-segment with "Raptor Lake Refresh" Based Core Series 1 Processors

[AusWolf]

Likely because they're trying something new with the power gating and the newer design weren't as easy to implement? Just a guess on my part.

My guess is business. If it has a new name, people will think it's something new, even though it's not.

I'm not sure I understand. Core Series 1 is Raptor Lake Refresh (or a subset of it), and Core Ultra Series 1 is Meteor Lake. So part of Series 1 is the newest Lake which came out on December 14. So it is partially the starting with the next Lake.

I mean, RPL refresh on desktop is 14th gen. The new naming scheme starts with MTL. But not on mobile, where RPL refresh is Core series 1 now. It's confusing as heck.

Am I the only that just wants a regular daily driver laptop and thinks 4c/8t is fine for some Firefox and MS Office?

My laptop (netbook) has a dual core Celeron, and it's fine.

 

[Sabotaged_Enigma]

Intel behaving like USB-IF...

 

[bug]

Am I the only that just wants a regular daily driver laptop and thinks 4c/8t is fine for some Firefox and MS Office?

You aren't but here's the good news: if you don't buy an Atom or something like that, any CPU is enough. So just buy your laptop based on any specs, other than the CPU.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Am I the only that just wants a regular daily driver laptop and thinks 4c/8t is fine for some Firefox and MS Office?

You're a practical thinker and while not a alone, you're a bit rare.

 

[nageme]

Intel behaving like USB-IF...

More like Xbox Series X.

If it were USB-like it'd include reconning, like Gen15 i7-13700 v1.0.

 

[ratirt]

2+8 would mean 2p+8e? Only 2p cores that is not so good. Obviously it is going to work but 2p cores is a bit to low for my taste.

I see a never-ending story about the naming problem. Honestly I wouldn't care less about naming which for this product is not problematic to pronounce or say. Arguments like, people would get confused or average joe wont know what to buy is pointless and has no merit. Always do research for product you are interested with and see other competing products to see which one will suit you better. Also, naming for every individual can be different because of likes and dislikes. It is better to focus on what the product is giving not how it's called.

 

[lexluthermiester]

2+8 would mean 2p+8e? Only 2p cores that is not so good.

But it's not so bad either, especially for ultra-mobile or ultra small form factor.

 

[ratirt]

But it's not so bad either, especially for ultra-mobile or ultra small form factor.

I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying that having a 4p cores for the ultra small mobile from my perspective is a must. I dont think I ask for much though.
We all know how ecores perform and I'm not so fond of these especially, if you get them in expense of the pcores and that is clearly happening here. It would have been better to go 4p+2e/4e in my opinion. I guess the advertisement would not be as good since it is better to advertise for 10c instead of 6c or 8c.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm just saying that having a 4p cores for the ultra small mobile from my perspective is a must.

The thing is, you might be underestimating just how effective the 2p+8e config can be. The Ecore might be the lesser of the cores, but they're not crap. In fact an all Ecore CPU would be a very reasonable model and would perform well. Then there is the perspective of an all Pcore CPU model. Jeff over at Craft Computing has an interesting take on a Xeon model made up of only Pcores. The result was solid, but less than stellar without the Ecores, especially at that price-point.

 

[ratirt]

The thing is, you might be underestimating just how effective the 2p+8e config can be. The Ecore might be the lesser of the cores, but they're not crap. In fact an all Ecore CPU would be a very reasonable model and would perform well. Then there is the perspective of an all Pcore CPU model. Jeff over at Craft Computing has an interesting take on a Xeon model made up of only Pcores. The result was solid, but less than stellar without the Ecores, especially at that price-point.

The price point and ecores here connect with AMD's server cpus offers which have way more cores. The ecores and higher core count for Intel, also justifies the price they are asking for it. I think, if you consider that and the advertisement again, hybrid for Intel is a must otherwise they lose on the core count and MT and price for the product front with AMD. You need to stay competitive and I think that is why Intel is doing it. Also, I have not mentioned power as you see but that is a different story.