INNOCN Gaming Monitors at 2024 CES: OLED and Fast IPS with MiniLED Dominate

[btarunr]

INNOCN brought its latest gaming monitors to the 2024 International CES; it didn't waste out time with monitors based on 15 year old tech; but rolled out the very latest—IPS with miniLED backlighting, and OLED. The Titan Army P27A6V is a 27-inch planar display with 4K Ultra HD resolution and a blistering 144 Hz refresh rate (which is high, considering this is 4K). This display uses an IPS panel with miniLED backlighting, and meets DisplayHDR 1000 spec. Display connectivity include HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort 1.4, both of which provide enough bandwidth of 4K HDR @ 144 Hz. Brilliant stuff, but this is "only" a 27-inch display, which will incur Hi-DPI scaling. Need something bigger? Check out the Titan Army P32A6V, which has identical specs to the P27A6V, but in a larger 32-inch planar format. Both these displays come in gunmetal gray and matte-white body color variants.

Switching up gears is the INNOCN M27E6V, a 27-inch planar display with a Fast IPS panel paired with miniLED backlighting. This one provides 4K Ultra HD with even faster 160 Hz refresh rate, and support for HDR 1400, and 99% coverage of DCI-P3. Inputs include DisplayPort 1.4, HDMI 2.1, and USB type-C (DisplayPort passthrough). You can use the monitor in single cable mode if the USB-C connection is capable of delivering 90 W. The next premium display is the Titan Army G27E8S, a 26.5-inch planar display that uses an OLED panel, and meant for performance gaming. You get a lower WQHD (2560 x 1440 pixels) resolution than the other three displays we mentioned so far; but at higher 240 Hz refresh rate, and under 0.5 ms GTG response time, thanks to the OLED panel. Inputs include DisplayPort 1.4 and HDMI 2.1. The display meets HDR10 spec.



The flagship display at the INNOCN booth is the 49E9S. This 49-inch curved super-wide display with an 1800R curvature, uses a QD-OLED panel, with a 32:9 aspect ratio, and an impressive 5120 x 1440 pixels native resolution at a blistering 240 Hz, with sub-0.5 ms response time. It meets HDR400 TrueBlack specs. Inputs include DisplayPort 1.4, HDMI 2.1, and USB-C (DisplayPort passthrough), and much like with the M27E6V, you can use this thing in single cable mode if the USB-C can deliver 90 W.



You can find more information about their products, at the INNOCN website.

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[pk67]

I will waiting for 32 : 27 displays : 3840 x 3240 or 5120 x 4320

 

[trsttte]

Cool monitors but will the firmware be up to snuff? If it's more of the same hdr but no vrr and loads of flicker or whatever I'll pass

Also they're launching 2 27'' 4k mini led monitors, one at 144hz the other at 160hz. Maybe there's more differences like lower PD or no USB-C on the first but for me I don't see a reason for there being 2 products, 16hz won't make any difference at all and every monitor nowadays playing on the higher end of the market must have fully capable USB-C input with ~100W PD.

 

[R-T-B]

Cool monitors but will the firmware be up to snuff? If it's more of the same hdr but no vrr and loads of flicker or whatever I'll pass

This is a real issue. Even LG has struggled with getting VRR working ON THEIR OWN OLED PANELS without bad flicker issues. I have doubts a third party will fare much better there.

 

[las]

Mini LED backlighting with tons of zones adds alot of input lag. This is not a big problem when watching content, but when playing games or using a mouse, it is.

This is why all LCD TVs with FALD loses alot of image quality when you enter pc/game mode. Backlight control is degraded like crazy and often the end result is close to edge lit LED. Some TVs goes from 1000+ zones to just 4 or 16 in this mode.

Proper control of just 500-1000 dimming zones takes 200-300 ms and this is with 60 fps.

So I'd imagine a "gaming monitor" with even more zones and 240-360 Hz/fps or more, would have very big problems controlling the backlighting fast enough to not create tons of input lag. Or you will be back to low contrast, halo effect and backlight bleed like usual on LCD + ips/va glow, smearing and all the other good stuff LCD is known for.

Mentioning Mini LED backlighting without telling how many dimming zones tells me its a low count It usually is on PC monitors or input lag will be horrible.

 

[trsttte]

Proper control of just 500-1000 dimming zones takes 200-300 ms and this is with 60 fps.

Not if they stop using the cheapest controllers available, but as we've seen with VA already that won't happen outside of a few exceptions (Samsung for VA and Sony for mini led)

 

[las]

Not if they stop using the cheapest controllers available, but as we've seen with VA already that won't happen outside of a few exceptions (Samsung for VA and Sony for mini led)

Regardless of chip you will see delay as the chip needs to analyze frames to time the backlighting properly.

Gaming monitors with dimming zones generally are very expensive and have pretty bad input latency when backlight is actually controlled "well"

Self emitting pixels is the future for sure. OLED has much better motion clarity than LCD.

VA is kinda bad for gaming as it has alot more smearing than IPS and TN. Even the best VA gaming monitors feels slow especially in dark scenes, tons of smearing. Also transitioning from white to dark, and vice versa, is very slow on VA. This is why no serious or pro gamers use VA monitors in stuff like shooters. Getting flashed in a shooter on a VA panel will blind you for longer, and you will see more smearing in general.

I'd only use VA for casual gaming, as in slower paced games.

 

[Keivz]

Mini LED backlighting with tons of zones adds alot of input lag. This is not a big problem when watching content, but when playing games or using a mouse, it is.

This is why all LCD TVs with FALD loses alot of image quality when you enter pc/game mode. Backlight control is degraded like crazy and often the end result is close to edge lit LED. Some TVs goes from 1000+ zones to just 4 or 16 in this mode.

Proper control of just 500-1000 dimming zones takes 200-300 ms and this is with 60 fps.

So I'd imagine a "gaming monitor" with even more zones and 240-360 Hz/fps or more, would have very big problems controlling the backlighting fast enough to not create tons of input lag. Or you will be back to low contrast, halo effect and backlight bleed like usual on LCD + ips/va glow, smearing and all the other good stuff LCD is known for.

Mentioning Mini LED backlighting without telling how many dimming zones tells me its a low count It usually is on PC monitors or input lag will be horrible.

I don’t know where you’re getting your information from—reviews of these monitors and TV’s argue otherwise. None of the latest mini led TV’s have a meaningful drop in backlight control in game mode, and mini led monitors are always in ‘game mode’. I have three mini led displays (and three oled displays for reference) and notice no degradation in iq or backlight control when in game mode, nor a significant input lag increase. Hdr+local dimming, however can increase input lag though by 9-10 ms, which is negligible in most games for most people.