AMD Zen 5 "Granite Ridge" CPUs Reportedly in Mass Production

[T0@st]

AMD concentrated on the promotion of new Zen 4-based APU products at last week's CES trade show, and they even lobbed in a couple of new Zen 3 offerings for PC enthusiasts who are more than happy to stick with Team Red's last generation AM4 socket. Future-focused folks were a little bit disappointed with Team Red keeping quiet about their next-generation "Zen 5" CPUs at CES 2024—one seeker of information, Peter Weltzmaier, turned to a notorious source of hardware leaks on X. Kepler has a decent track record of providing accurate inside tracks—and they more than happy to address Weltzmaier's query regarding the status of AMD's upcoming "Granite Ridge" desktop CPU series.

Kepler believes that Granite Ridge has reached the mass production phase, but did not provide any further elaboration beyond a brief reply on social media—this information should be taken with a grain of salt. We have not heard a lot about Granite Ridge processors since last November, with AMD choosing to not preview next-gen desktop processors at a December "Advancing AI" event. The rumor mill proposed that XDNA-based Ryzen AI acceleration will not be a key feature present on Granite Ridge and a mobile-oriented derivative called "Fire Ridge."



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[Chry]

Looking forward to buy 8600x/8700x at day 1! Really happy with the 7600X.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

They are baking the wafers in TSMC.. After that, there will be more slicing and stacking of the chiplets on the pad and quite a few other operations.

 

[phanbuey]

Cant wait until that 8800X3D -- will be most likely candidate for the 5090/5080 unless Intel can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

 

[kapone32]

I think i might (for now) skip next Gen and upgrade when the 9000 series CPUs are released.

 

[phanbuey]

I think i might (for now) skip next Gen and upgrade when the 9000 series CPUs are released.

I always base it on the videocard and resolution and how much it's holding me back...

Nothing under 20% performance is worth the upgrade for me.

 

[Eskimonster]

Gonna upgrade in 6-8 years, cant imagine i need to update my 5800X3D before that.

 

[Rus4kova]

Skipped the 7xxx Ryzen, just waiting for Ryzen 8xxx and will upgrade when they arrive.
So for me the performance increase will be >> 20%.

 

[Denver]

I haven't seen any relevant use for AI/NPU in mobile chips yet... How will this technology find purpose on desktops? Well, at least rumors indicate a IPC improvement of around 15-20%

 

[Dristun]

I haven't seen any relevant use for AI/NPU in mobile chips yet... How will this technology find purpose on desktops? Well, at least rumors indicate a IPC improvement of around 15-20%

Advanced noise reduction on microphones, live green screen, "magic eraser" for photos and so on. Small but sometimes useful consumer-level tricks that have been on the phones for the last couple of years but aren't yet built-in into windows. I imagine they will be with win12 later this year.

 

[efikkan]

If the CPUs are in "mass production", that usually means they are making the wafers assumed to be the final stepping. And if that's the case, a launch could be possible this summer, and it would also mean "leaks" of QS ~1-2 months ahead of that.
I'm looking forward to see the first actual benchmarks.

Looking forward to buy 8600x/8700x at day 1! Really happy with the 7600X.

To build an additional PC, I hope?
I sure hope that you're not upgrading CPUs "every" generation and then selling the old, that would be a tremendous waste of money long term.

 

[RogueSix]

The ZEN 4 APUs are already the 8000 series. If AMD follows the same naming rules as with the AM4 socket then the ZEN 5 desktop CPUs will probably skip the 8xxx and become the 9000 series. So, the most interesting ZEN 5 CPU will likely be the Ryzen 7 9800X3D which will either just barely make it to market this year or more likely in the first half of 2025 as the 3D CPUs always come out with a significant delay.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Cant wait until that 8800X3D -- will be most likely candidate for the 5090/5080 unless Intel can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

Alas even though Zen 5 will probably be on sale in 3-4 months expect another big delay on X3D parts, maybe just before or after Arrow Lake drops.

I haven't seen any relevant use for AI/NPU in mobile chips yet... How will this technology find purpose on desktops? Well, at least rumors indicate a IPC improvement of around 15-20%

You don't do photo processing I guess. AI will accelerate generative fill and other AI centric functions

 

[R0H1T]

The ZEN 4 APUs are already the 8000 series. If AMD follows the same naming rules as with the AM4 socket then the ZEN 5 desktop CPUs will probably skip the 8xxx and become the 9000 series.

That's old news, they're using the third digit from the left to denote uarch so 8x5x & they'll probably release the laptop ships by Q4 assuming they're not too far behind on that.

 

[Chaitanya]

Hopefully memory controllers have been improved with new Gen of CPUs and they improve memory training speed.

 

[kondamin]

Alas even though Zen 5 will probably be on sale in 3-4 months expect another big delay on X3D parts, maybe just before or after Arrow Lake drops.


You don't do photo processing I guess. AI will accelerate generative fill and other AI centric functions

I doubt many companies will be willing to give away the golden goes just because it can run on user hardware.
15$ for 100 tries…

 

[Launcestonian]

Hopefully memory controllers have been improved with new Gen of CPUs and they improve memory training speed.

Also, the FCLK, be nice to see 2300+ at least with mild OC.

 

[Minus Infinity]

I doubt many companies will be willing to give away the golden goes just because it can run on user hardware.
15$ for 100 tries…

Other companies don't force you to use the cloud for AI eg Topaz, so have AI acceleration locally will be of benefit. Adobe won't be able to keep forcing users to send their data to the cloud. Also Generative fill has a pathetic 1024 x 1024 resolution limit currently, which is a joke and won't wash for too long.

 

[MarsM4N]

Another insider leaked a video from AMD's production line. Unconfirmed, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[usiname]

To build an additional PC, I hope?
I sure hope that you're not upgrading CPUs "every" generation and then selling the old, that would be a tremendous waste of money long term.

Why not? I will do it myself, but probably year after the launch when I can sell my current 7600x and get 8600x/9600x with extra $50. The performance jump between 5600x and 7600x in SC and MC is >30% and the later is released 2 years later. I expect similar improvement with Zen5. What we can say about the the Alder Lake owners who upgrade from 12th to 14th gen to get less than 10% SC improvement.

Also when I resell the 8600x/9600x after few years It will have better value than 7600x, probably $25-30 so its almost free upgrade

 

[trparky]

What I might do is buy one of these, put the newer chip into my system, and then give my father the 7700X that I have now.

 

[Scircura]

Is it silly to wait on the sidelines for the next chipset? X670 rubs me the wrong way. Not just that they slapped two B650's together to assemble it, but because is has way more peripheral connectivity than can fit through the bottlenecked PCI-E 4.0 x4 link to the CPU. I heard somewhere that AM5 probably can't add more lanes to the chipset link, but it could at least be bumped up to PCI-E 5.0 in X770.

Also when I resell the 8600x/9600x after few years It will have better value than 7600x, probably $25-30 so its almost free upgrade

Well sure, if you have a quick and reliable way to offload outdated and used gear to suckers who will pay that much, then it makes total sense to upgrade on every refresh. Myself, I can't imagine paying that much for a stranger's cast-offs. Just the hassle of arranging a bespoke transaction is enough to turn me off the idea, not to mention the loss of warranty and absence of return policy.

 

[usiname]

Well sure, if you have a quick and reliable way to offload outdated and used gear to suckers who will pay that much, then it makes total sense to upgrade on every refresh. Myself, I can't imagine paying that much for a stranger's cast-offs. Just the hassle of arranging a bespoke transaction is enough to turn me off the idea, not to mention the loss of warranty and absence of return policy.

I was wrong for the price, the price that I will must to pay to upgrade from 5600x to 7600x now is ~$110 (I don't include the motherboard price) and the difference between 3600x and 5600x on the second hand market is ~$50 so the upgrade will cost initially ~$110 in the case of 8600x because I will reuse the motherboard and later when I sell and upgrade again I will get more, because the CPU won't be so outdated as if I keep for example 3600x for 5-6 years. Also with upgrade cycle of 2 years the previous CPU will have 1 of 3 years left from the warranty. I preffer to upgrade this way, because I am using my CPU not just for gaming but also for work, its not so much more expensive than what will be if I upgrade on 6 years, but I am always with the latest and fastest current CPU gen. But I am doing this around 1 year after the release of the new gen, the premium fee on day one is not acceptable to me

 

[ratirt]

I could take a look and see what these can do. Maybe I will retire my very good 5800x CPU. It should be a hell of a boost in performance.

 

[Nhonho]

Will the NPUs that are coming integrated with the new CPUs need new optimized software to be used?