Nintendo "Switch 2" with 8-inch LCD Screen Reportedly Prepped for 2024

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Earlier today, Bloomberg published a report that covers expert analysis of the Nintendo Switch successor's alleged display credentials. The media outlet cites claims made by Hiroshi Hayase—Research Manager (of Small Medium Displays) at Omdia. The analyst proposes that Nintendo's hardware design team has selected an eight inch LCD screen for their "Switch 2" games console, he also believes that the launch model is due at some point this year. Hayase-san has gleaned information from supply chain insiders—the Switch successor could double shipments of entertainment-oriented "small displays." Sharp Corporation is believed to be Nintendo's main supplier, according to interpretations of deliberately vague company statements.

Nintendo's 2017 launch model sported a 6.2-inch LCD display, a more portable Lite version arrived in 2019 with a 5.5-inch display, and a larger 7-inch OLED iteration was released back in 2021. Gaming communities have long speculated about an abandoned "Switch Pro" model—many believe that the project was dropped due to ongoing supply chain problems during lockdown periods. The Switch OLED (plus its modernized dock station) is believed to be an interim gap fill. Nintendo has revealed little about their next generation gaming console, but development partners have been making some noise lately. According to a 4Gamer.net interview article, workers at Japanese studios (CAPCOM, Koei Tecmo, and Spike Chunsoft) have expressed major excitement about the upcoming model's prospects. GDC's 2024 State of the Game Industry report revealed that 240 respondents have admitted that they are actively working on Switch 2 games software.



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[Double-Click]

I wish they kept the OLED screen, but if I wind up getting one the majority of its use would be docked anyway I guess.

 

[iameatingjam]

Its going to really suck not being able to emulate new nintendo games for a while... possibly a really long while.

 

[aktpu]

Its going to really suck not being able to emulate new nintendo games for a while... possibly a really long while.

They're new games, so you can just play them on new hardware

 

[ecomorph]

Its going to really suck not being able to emulate new nintendo games for a while... possibly a really long while.

Wasn't the jump from Wii to Switch pretty minor in terms of emulation? I'd expect the same from switch 1 to 2.

 

[ModEl4]

I hope the resolution remains 720p (for more 60fps gaming) but i doubt it.Everyone would want an OLED SKU but i guess Nintendo will keep it for a refresh in order to rejuvenate the sales in midlife.With the specs that rumoured (1280 cuda cores and 8nm) and hopefully with 1.1GHz in docked mode (from 768MHz) and with double the rops (32 vs 16) an Ampere derivative should be in docked mode around 2X of the original Xbox one or 55% of Xbox Series S, which means in visual terms that a title running in Xbox Series S at 60fps it will be with similar quality on switch 2 but at 30fps in docked mode(for those few titles that implement raytracing in XbosSS there is even greater potential, although i suspect the low bandwidth of switch 2 will be problematic for raytracing so we probably will not see the usual advantage that Nvidia's desktop implementations have vs AMD here) or another optic: all the latest cross-gen titles that run on the older Xbox one at 30fps they can be done at 60fps on docked mode with possibly better image quality (based on better CPU/ storage/ recent s/w engine developments and more importantly due to switch 2 will have the option to rely on DLSS also, DF casted doubt based on the fixed cost of DLSS deeming it unrealistic for switch2, but i suspect we will have a custom lighter DLSS implementation possibly with a little bit worse quality)

 

[iameatingjam]

Wasn't the jump from Wii to Switch pretty minor in terms of emulation? I'd expect the same from switch 1 to 2.

Yeah I hope you're right. But I have a feeling its going to take longer this time. The hardware probably wont be that high end but I'm sure Nintendo did not like people playing their games on pc and will be doing all they can to prevent it. We'll see...

 

[mechtech]

Well if there is a price drop on original switch might get one.

 

[Arkz]

Wasn't the jump from Wii to Switch pretty minor in terms of emulation? I'd expect the same from switch 1 to 2.

From Wii U to Switch maybe. Jump to Switch 2 is gonna be way bigger.

 

[phints]

Wasn't the jump from Wii to Switch pretty minor in terms of emulation? I'd expect the same from switch 1 to 2.

Not exactly, it took Yuzu years to get to a point you can play games like BOTW and TOTK perfectly at 1440p 60fps no crashes. Now you can.

Hopefully this trickles down to Shield TV Pro hardware too, would be good to see Nvidia SoCs in more devices given I have zero interest in a Nintendo console.

 

[trsttte]

new hardware

Newly released but in Nintendo fashion it will be pretty outdated already from the get go.

Yeah I hope you're right. But I have a feeling its going to take longer this time. The hardware probably wont be that high end but I'm sure Nintendo did not like people playing their games on pc and will be doing all they can to prevent it. We'll see...

Especially with the ressurgence of handheld devices, they'll wan't to lock down things as much as possible.

 

[Arkz]

Newly released but in Nintendo fashion it will be pretty outdated already from the get go.



Especially with the ressurgence of handheld devices, they'll wan't to lock down things as much as possible.

Most people don't care and buy regardless. Look how massive the Switch sold, being some old Maxwell based system.

 

[theouto]

7 years have passed since the switch, it's only right

 

[Nhonho]

I would really like the Switch 2 to have enough performance to run Mario games in 4K resolution.

 

[Broken Processor]

The real news for me would be the release of a new shield console my 2015 model is getting very tired. And with Nvidia pushing Geforce Now hard again I'm hoping they are indeed going to release a new one but holding back until after the release of Switch 2.

 

[R0H1T]

an Ampere derivative should be in docked mode around 2X of the original Xbox one or 55% of Xbox Series S

It's a major fail if they're releasing an Ampere based SoC in 2024 but Nintendo & certainly Nvidia don't really care!

 

[ModEl4]

It's a major fail if they're releasing an Ampere based SoC in 2024 but Nintendo & certainly Nvidia don't really care!

Nintendo after 64 (or maybe after Gamecube) changed strategy and was never chasing to compete technology wise with Sony and MS or have the latest tech in general.Probably the cost of the solutions Nvidia proposed led to ampere and Samsung 8nm, the other solutions would be ampere+6nm (or 5/4nm class) and ada+5/4nm class (or backporting to 6nm) which all these solutions have significant cost increase (i imagine the price Nvidia proposed even for an ampere at 6nm TSMC would be disproportionately high due to Nvidia values too high the engineering time it would take to port it at tsmc because they don't have resources to spare with all the open projects) Switch if i remember is based on Maxwell2 so at launch a little bit more than 2 years and 1Q in relation with desktop implementation while now the gap will be 4 years if switch 2 released in September for example (probably will be released in Q2?) The pricing that Nintendo is asking is too much for the tech (but not for the whole proposition based on the sale figures...) But with the kind of games that Nintendo platform offers+ the desktop/mobile capabilities, the competition have no alternative really.

 

[shk021051]

lcd ? im out

 

[Nater]

I know I know what you'll all say, but I still REALLY believe Nintendo is leaving $billions on the table by not making a high powered console that stays parked at the TV. They never should have let Sony and MS get their foot in the door after they put Atari and Sega under.

I'm also shocked they haven't released a modern VR headset yet.

 

[Craptacular]

The Switch 2 is most likely going to be the Nvidia Tegra Orin chip which is based off of the Amphere GPU, the Ada Lovelace based Tegra, codenamed thor, isn't scheduled for release until 2025, that isn't surprising. Nvidia typically releases new Tegra archs based off of the outgoing GPU when the newest desktop GPU arch is launching.

So, unless Nvidia is willing to give up significant profit margins or Nintendo is willing to pay top dollar and sell the consoles for a loss we are going to be using a Tegra Orin chip that will probably have the OFA from the Ada lovelace so that it can use DLSS 3.

 

[Naito]

In typical Nintendo fashion, they'll keep the OLED for the mid-life refresh to boost sales through people upgrading....

 

[Arkz]

It's a major fail if they're releasing an Ampere based SoC in 2024 but Nintendo & certainly Nvidia don't really care!

Well they start designing their new machines early and developing games for them early. Devs will be using dev kits that were probably finalised 2 years ago. Not like they can jump in with the latest gen hardware. Besides look at the Switch. Still selling like hotcakes and extremely popular, and is ancient Maxwell tech. Buyers don't care, and this will still be a massive step up from Switch 1.

In typical Nintendo fashion, they'll keep the OLED for the mid-life refresh to boost sales through people upgrading....

It is annoying, but at least the Switch LCD is bright and colourful anyway. It's only the black levels where it's missing out massively, but given Ninties games are mostly bright and colourful anyway it's not that big of a deal. Still a shame, but lets face it if they did OLED at launch they'd probably whack on an even more extreme premium to the price.

I use my Switch docked 95% of the time anyway, so I'm almost always playing its games on an OLED.

 

[Super XP]

I would go with the OLED in a heartbeat but why is Nintendo still using LCD? They should at least consider using an 8-inch LED instead no?

Buyers don't care, and this will still be a massive step up from Switch 1.

Buyers don't care because the Switch can pound any of its games into submission with ease. Even DOOM and the Metro games do pretty well on the Switch, though I've only played these games on one of my switches when docked.

lcd ? im out

That's what I am trying to figure out, why not LED? at the very least.

 

[Arkz]

I would go with the OLED in a heartbeat but why is Nintendo still using LCD? They should at least consider using an 8-inch LED instead no?


Buyers don't care because the Switch can pound any of its games into submission with ease. Even DOOM and the Metro games do pretty well on the Switch, though I've only played these games on one of my switches when docked.


That's what I am trying to figure out, why not LED? at the very least.

LED? You mean OLED?

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Wait. Do you think LED is a screen type? They're all LCDs still. TN, IPS, VN, all LCD. They're just LED lit, not CCFL like like they used to be years ago.