The LG UltraGear 27GS95QE OLED Gaming Monitor Now Available for C$1200

[TheLostSwede]

Announced just before the Christmas holiday, LG's UltraGear 27GS95QE is now starting to become available for purchase. The differences between it and its predecessor, the 27GR95QE are very minor and the only obvious specification change is a bump in SDR brightness from 200 nits to 275 nits typical brightness. That said, the older 27GR95QE didn't quite manage to meet the 200 nits figure in reviews. Likewise the claimed 1000 nits HDR brightness wasn't achieved by the older model either and although LG is sticking to the same peak HDR brightness, it's possible that this has been improved as well, as the older model didn't go much beyond 600 nits in reviews.

The UltraGear 27GS95QE retains the matte AG coating, so those hoping for a glossy display are out of luck as well. TFT Central believes that the 27GS95QE is using a new WOLED panel from LG Display that is technically capable of reaching 1300 nits, but this is currently just speculation. Converting C$1200 to US$, suggests that the MSRP is likely to be US$899 plus taxes, which means the new models will be around U$100 cheaper than the old model in terms of MSRP. For anyone that isn't overly concerned about the brightness, the older 27GR95QE has been discounted by LG in the US and is now going for US$750, which is a US$250 discount on the US$999 MSRP. The lower MSRP of the new models appears to suggest that OLED pricing are slowly coming down in price, but it appears we're going to have to wait another couple of years before they reach more mainstream pricing.



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[Onasi]

Okay, I’ll ask the obvious - why would a 26.5 inch monitor come with a remote? Did they decide to completely remove on-chassis OSD controls? Because that would be awful.

 

[Macro Device]

those hoping for a glossy display are out of luck as well.

Nobody makes glossy displays nowadays. Those who don't have eye damage are screwed big time.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Nobody makes glossy displays nowadays. Those who don't have eye damage are screwed big time.

Dough/eve apparently does, but...

 

[Onasi]

Oh, and I also would like to formally complain about LG’s new (not so new now) UltraGear logo. It’s absolutely terrible, it looks like a tramp stamp. Or like something a 13 year old would doodle and think is cool. The choice of color doesn’t help. I will never understand why these companies automatically go “A gaming sub-brand? We must go full cringe!”

 

[TheLostSwede]

Okay, I’ll ask the obvious - why would a 26.5 inch monitor come with a remote? Did they decide to completely remove on-chassis OSD controls? Because that would be awful.

It still has an OSD key... But the remote is apparently needed.
From TFT Central:

The screen comes packaged with a useful little remote control as shown above. Don’t lose this as you need it to access most of the OSD menu and options! You can control some very limited parts of the OSD via a single button on the bottom edge of the screen, but there’s only access to input selection, volume and brightness so that’s super-limiting. It’s also really fiddly to use.

Oh, and I also would like to formally complain about LG’s new (not so new now) UltraGear logo. It’s absolutely terrible, it looks like a tramp stamp. Or like something a 13 year ild would doodle and think is cool. The choice of color doesn’t help. I will never under why these companies automated go “A gaming sub-brand? We must go full cringe!”

It's an Asian company, so keep that in mind when it comes to these things.

 

[Macro Device]

Dough/eve apparently does, but...

But no matter how you "improve" your matte film it's still impossible not to notice its impact on the visuals. And in the perfectly managed room (= you have blackout curtains and don't aim your chandeliers directly into the display), glossy displays strive and matte displays suck. Considering what we have on the market, it seems that at least 90 percent PC users don't know and don't try to know how to use a monitor the way it doesn't hurt.

 

[Onasi]

It's an Asian company, so keep that in mind when it comes to these things.

Nah, I get it, but just go for something cool with an actual asian flair then, if you really must. An interesting folklore creature, as an example. Or better yet, just make hardware that’s just… hardware. There is no reason for a faster refresh display necessarily be labeled as some ridiculous gaming apparatus.
So far a lot of these companies, be it Korean, Taiwanese or from Mainland China seem to struggle with straddling the line between making something that would be appealing in a domestic market AND in the west. Which leads to… well, usual marketing. I still remember Palit (I think it was them?) unironically saying that their 4090 will “give its wielder unlimited dark power” in their press release, or at least something to that effect.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Nah, I get it, but just go for something cool with an actual asian flair then, if you really must. An interesting folklore creature, as an example. Or better yet, just make hardware that’s just… hardware. There is no reason for a faster refresh display necessarily be labeled as some ridiculous gaming apparatus.
So far a lot of these companies, be it Korean, Taiwanese or from Mainland China seem to struggle with straddling the line between making something that would be appealing in a domestic market AND in the west. Which leads to… well, usual marketing. I still remember Palit (I think it was them?) unironically saying that their 4090 will “give its wielder unlimited dark power” in their press release, or at least something to that effect.

Korean, so kimchi...
Or maybe beondegi?

I mean, Taiwan has a jade cabbage so...

The language used in a lot of marketing material is very local and doesn't translate well. Trust me, I've done some editing of Taiwanese press releases over the years and yeah...
Some companies just don't give a flying f...

 

[Deleted member 237269]

Wait for the new wave of 4K Oled.

 

[Onasi]

Korean, so kimchi...
Or maybe beondegi?

I mean, Taiwan has a jade cabbage so...

Thought more something like a gumiho for the edgy waifu factor, but I admit that your suggestion of a food based logo is significantly more amusing.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Thought more something like a gumiho for the edgy waifu factor, but I admit that your suggestion of a food based logo is significantly more amusing.

Well, the current logo does kind of look like a chinese cabbage so...

Wait for the new wave of 4K Oled.View attachment 331829

All of them are too big though. Not that I would buy this thing for that matter.

 

[trsttte]

Oh, and I also would like to formally complain about LG’s new (not so new now) UltraGear logo. It’s absolutely terrible, it looks like a tramp stamp. Or like something a 13 year old would doodle and think is cool. The choice of color doesn’t help. I will never understand why these companies automatically go “A gaming sub-brand? We must go full cringe!”

Gamer wings perhaps, makes as much sense as anything else really. I guess taste is subjective, I don't like it either and try to avoid the typical "gamer" look but it sells so they're probably doing something right

Which leads to… well, usual marketing. I still remember Palit (I think it was them?) unironically saying that their 4090 will “give its wielder unlimited dark power” in their press release, or at least something to that effect.

I belive some Asus, MSI and Gigabyte press releases aren't that far off but that's genuinely amazing

 

[Deleted member 229121]

HDR 1000 would be a step in the righ direction, but seems iffy at best.
600 should be the bare minium, not 400 like many others which is a waste of everyone's time/money.

Oh, and I also would like to formally complain about LG’s new (not so new now) UltraGear logo. It’s absolutely terrible, it looks like a tramp stamp. Or like something a 13 year old would doodle and think is cool. The choice of color doesn’t help. I will never understand why these companies automatically go “A gaming sub-brand? We must go full cringe!”

Would you rather "strength" and "water" tatooed in Korean on the lower region?

 

[EatingDirt]

But no matter how you "improve" your matte film it's still impossible not to notice its impact on the visuals. And in the perfectly managed room (= you have blackout curtains and don't aim your chandeliers directly into the display), glossy displays strive and matte displays suck. Considering what we have on the market, it seems that at least 90 percent PC users don't know and don't try to know how to use a monitor the way it doesn't hurt.

Many people, myself included, can't perfectly manage the lighting in the room that their PC is in. Matte is the superior format if you have any sources of light behind your monitor.

 

[Onasi]

Many people, myself included, can't perfectly manage the lighting in the room that their PC is in. Matte is the superior format if you have any sources of light behind your monitor.

Moreover, matte (or at least semi-glossy AG) is a superior coating, regardless of lighting, if you have any kind of refractionally significant astigmatism. Sure, theoretically glossy will be sharper in absolutely perfect conditions. Said conditions are usually a very dim, if not fully dark, room. And in such conditions, any amount of fringing on fonts becomes an absolute blur due to interaction between astigmatism and a dilated pupil. It is not fun.

 

[Macro Device]

Many people, myself included, can't perfectly manage the lighting in the room that their PC is in. Matte is the superior format if you have any sources of light behind your monitor.

What's behind doesn't matter a bit. What's in front... I don't say messing the lighting in the room up is a challenge but it's fairly easy to manage.

if you have any kind of refractionally significant astigmatism.

That's why I initially stated about people with perfect vision being screwed big time. I am one of such people and I have to remove matte films on every monitor I buy in order to make it usable for me. The reason why I don't buy glossy monitors is that nobody makes them anymore. Or their specs are extremely far away from what I want from the monitor.

Sure, theoretically glossy will be sharper in absolutely perfect conditions. Said conditions are usually a very dim, if not fully dark, room.

You just have to put your monitor not the way it faces your windows/bulbs/whatnot semi- or completely directly. Complete darkness is ideal no doubt but even if it's bright it's easily mitigated by increasing the monitor's brightness (I haven't ever seen a monitor that's not capable of being bright enough and find those complaints about insufficient brightness made-up big time, most monitors just burn your eyes if you surpass 50 to 70 % brightness level). I genuinely don't know what's so hard in this management. Almost feels like you have to TRY to mess it up.

 

[MarsM4N]

Many people, myself included, can't perfectly manage the lighting in the room that their PC is in. Matte is the superior format if you have any sources of light behind your monitor.

Guess you're living in a country that still hasn't discovered the magic Rolladen? Btw. there are tons of other DIY solutions to block direct sunlight.

Matte isn't superior in any way, it's nothing more than a compromise. Matte coating is murdering the black levels, vibrancy, colours & sharpness. Esp. on a OLED display with it's superior image quality a matte finish is the dumbest thing you could do. The best anti glare coating atm. for OLED's is the coating they use on the top of the line OLED TV's (Samsung also introduced a new anti glare coating for their upcoming S95D OLED TV). Combined with a curved display & controlled room lighting is the way to go for optimum image quality.

Glossy VS Matte Monitors: Which Is Better?

 

[Deleted member 237269]

I want Glossy on my monitor and Matte for the Phone.

Glossy screens allow for more vivid colors and expressive contrast, but under heavy sunlight reflection or too bright room lighting, they can become mirror-like.
Matte finish monitors, on the other hand, include an anti-glare treatment, which eliminates the issue of reflections. However, the image quality is more grainy and less clear.

For the glossy enjoyers

 

[Macro Device]

Matte isn't superior in any way, it's nothing more than a compromise. Matte coating is murdering the black levels, vibrancy, colours & sharpness. Esp. on a OLED display with it's superior image quality a matte finish is the dumbest thing you could do.

Couldn't be more true.

Hate the concept of "people do it wrong → manufacturers account that → the only ones who suffer are people who do it right because anti-fool measures lower the performance of the device."

 

[MarsM4N]

I want Glossy on my monitor and Matte for the Phone.

Yes, mobile devices is a application that would really make sense to use a matte anti glare finish. There are some DIY screen protectors out there you can put on. Will have a look into when I get a new phone. Really love the "e-book reader" look & feel, but durability will be the question here (it does wear off over time). It will also for sure wash out videos, but I am rarely using the phone to watch videos.

 

[EatingDirt]

Guess you're living in a country that still hasn't discovered the magic Rolladen? Btw. there are tons of other DIY solutions to block direct sunlight.

Matte isn't superior in any way, it's nothing more than a compromise. Matte coating is murdering the black levels, vibrancy, colours & sharpness. Esp. on a OLED display with it's superior image quality a matte finish is the dumbest thing you could do. The best anti glare coating atm. for OLED's is the coating they use on the top of the line OLED TV's (Samsung also introduced a new anti glare coating for their upcoming S95D OLED TV). Combined with a curved display & controlled room lighting is the way to go for optimum image quality.

Glossy VS Matte Monitors: Which Is Better?

The Linus video linked has a whole 2 minute segment that agrees with everything I said in my comment.

 

[Random_User]

The screen itself is thin as a mirror. But the back has a huge plastic box, and they still couldn't sort out things, in order to make the adequte menu, wihtout need of stupid remote control. And it should be there, at the arm's length. This feels like "repackaged" TV.
As of brightness. Do people really need it to scorch the eyes. People complain about glossy finish, but the brightess can damage eyes more than the absense of any coating. I don't even mention, that reducing the brightness, reduces the burn-in effect as well.

As much as I like the OLED, it still is to steep for a flawed technology. Just IMO.

But no matter how you "improve" your matte film it's still impossible not to notice its impact on the visuals. And in the perfectly managed room (= you have blackout curtains and don't aim your chandeliers directly into the display), glossy displays strive and matte displays suck. Considering what we have on the market, it seems that at least 90 percent PC users don't know and don't try to know how to use a monitor the way it doesn't hurt.

Indeed. When using glossy screen, even if the sun shines directly on user sitting nearby the screen, and the bright light reflects on the screen only partyally. Just in one point, dot/area. With "antiglare" it does the exactly the reverse, and smears and spreads even tiny light reflections on the whole screen, so entire monitor's image being blocked by freakin white reflections. Ask me how I know.
I get the impression, that majority of consumers are the flock of d*mb *ssh*les, and don't know what they want. And even don't try to imagine themselves, what they might want, instead of consuming the sh*t that companies feed them with. It doesn't require a lot of efforts, just have a simple comparison, with another product, distinctive enough from masses of produced garbage.

Spoiler

Also. I've been told for years, that it's too costly for screen manurefacturers, to produce 16:10, because of that tiny inch or two is too big of challenge and money waste. And then I've got the info, that these manufacturers, actually after cutting the piece from motherglass, intentionally remove the slice of screen, in order to make it 16:9. So.... it was already 16:10, and they ruin it to make the garbo slit, instead of a proper screen aspect ratio. And for OLED, the "black bars" due to image scaling, are not an issue at all.

Matte isn't superior in any way, it's nothing more than a compromise. Matte coating is murdering the black levels, vibrancy, colours & sharpness. Esp. on a OLED display with it's superior image quality a matte finish is the dumbest thing you could do.

These words in the ears of screen designers and manufacturers. It's not that hard to make both versions of same model alongside each other. Both will have their buyers. And for people with eye prroblems, there should be special versions anyway.

 

[evernessince]

What's behind doesn't matter a bit. What's in front... I don't say messing the lighting in the room up is a challenge but it's fairly easy to manage.

That's why I initially stated about people with perfect vision being screwed big time. I am one of such people and I have to remove matte films on every monitor I buy in order to make it usable for me. The reason why I don't buy glossy monitors is that nobody makes them anymore. Or their specs are extremely far away from what I want from the monitor.

You just have to put your monitor not the way it faces your windows/bulbs/whatnot semi- or completely directly. Complete darkness is ideal no doubt but even if it's bright it's easily mitigated by increasing the monitor's brightness (I haven't ever seen a monitor that's not capable of being bright enough and find those complaints about insufficient brightness made-up big time, most monitors just burn your eyes if you surpass 50 to 70 % brightness level). I genuinely don't know what's so hard in this management. Almost feels like you have to TRY to mess it up.

There's is only one orientation I could place my monitor / desk in my current computer room to avoid reflections from the two windows and ceiling light. Said orientation would take away most of my chair space, is completely un-intuitive, and would place me right next to an adjacent room that sometimes generates noise.

It's not that people can't do it. It's just that often the trade-off is not worth it. I'd rather just take a slight hit to colors than have sub-optimal comfort and productivity. You have to remember that people are in a variety of situations and not everyone has the option for an optimal layout. Matte coating is popular precisely due to this. If I want to get deeper blacks I'll hop into VR, where the screen lighting environment is always optimal.

 

[rv8000]

If you like OLED and fan noise, buy this

/s

I hate giving ASUS credit, but having owned both 27” OLEDs, LGs was a mess and just worse in nearly every way. It’s a shame because my c2 is fantastic.

Absolute pass one these, 32” 4k is a proper monitor.