NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 6GB Formally Launched

[Macro Device]

Currently the 4060/Ti models falls a little short, but are still great products in terms of what they are offering

Non-Ti, almost yes. A little cheaper and 1.5 times more efficient version of 3060. For $250, would be marvellous.
Ti (8 GB), no. I don't have anything against the device itself, it's just horribly overpriced. For $330, would be 10/10.
Ti (16 GB) makes no sense for anyone but those who do some professional workloads where this speed is plenty but 8 GB is "are you kidding me."

 

[bug]

Yeah, I tend to agree with that.
It's nice that they do exist, but I would only consider them for a heavy professional workload that justifies that.

As for the realistic options; Back with Ampere, the RTX 3060 / Ti models were very well positioned at the time (only you couldn't find them at the MSRP then). Currently the 4060/Ti models falls a little short, but are still great products in terms of what they are offering, and I believe you can at times find them below MSRP.
But I still think RTX 4070 along with RX 7700 XT and RX 7800 XT are the models to consider for a "decent" gaming PC today.

Totally with you. Unfortunately, all those you mentioned are above what I'm willing to spend on a video card.

 

[3valatzy]

Totally with you. Unfortunately, all those you mentioned are above what I'm willing to spend on a video card.

Then buy Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB or Radeon RX 6650 XT 8GB.

 

[bug]

Then buy Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB or Radeon RX 6650 XT 8GB.

Not enough HP. If I pay that kind of money, I want to take RT out for a spin

 

[3valatzy]

Not enough HP. If I pay that kind of money, I want to take RT out for a spin

I lost it. In this performance segment there is no RT. You are either bottlenecked by the VRAM (in general, raster) or by the super low RT units performance.
RTX 3060 Ti is towards 400 bucks. RX 6700 XT 12GB is on par with RTX 3060 8GB which starts from 280 bucks.

Sapphire Radeon RX 7600 XT Pulse Review

The Sapphire Radeon RX 7600 XT Pulse is priced at the AMD MSRP of $330, offering 16 GB of VRAM for future-proofing. It comes equipped with an excellent dual-slot cooler, providing good noise levels and temperatures.

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[tussinman]

Not enough HP. If I pay that kind of money, I want to take RT out for a spin

That's like saying if I'm paying Honda Civic money I want Lexus features.

RT is an enthusiast feature that most aim for only if they have significant headroom once base setting are turned up. Obviously not gonna get that on something that's more geared towards entry level systems

 

[bug]

That's like saying if I'm paying Honda Civic money I want Lexus features.

RT is an enthusiast feature that most aim for only if they have significant headroom once base setting are turned up. Obviously not gonna get that on something that's more geared towards entry level systems

Make of it what you want. For $400-500 I want RT. RT is at third generation already, it shouldn't be confined to the high-end still.
(Just to be clear, I know the suggested cards are cheaper, but I am willing the above amount, provided I can play with some level of RT.)

 

[SOAREVERSOR]

Make of it what you want. for $400-500 I want RT. RT is at third generation already, it shouldn't be confined to the high-end still.
(Just to be clear, I know the suggested cards are cheaper, but I am willing the above amount, provided I can play with some level of RT.)

Functional RT is going to be stuck at the high end until an APU can do it.

High end PC gaming is going to the cloud. Just get used to the concept of renting a GPU and paying more per month for higher details, resolution, and all the rest. That is the future of PC gaming.

 

[bug]

Functional RT is going to be stuck at the high end until an APU can do it.

High end PC gaming is going to the cloud. Just get used to the concept of renting a GPU and paying more per month for higher details, resolution, and all the rest. That is the future of PC gaming.

Oh, I'm not really gaming anymore, no time for that. But there are a few titles I would like to play eventually, that's why I'm still keeping my eye out for GPUs. If I can't get anything decent (by my own standards) by the time my 1060 goes belly-up, I will happily go IGP.

 

[ThrashZone]

Make of it what you want. for $400-500 I want RT. RT is at third generation already, it shouldn't be confined to the high-end still.
(Just to be clear, I know the suggested cards are cheaper, but I am willing the above amount, provided I can play with some level of RT.)

Hi,
Might have to pull a bit more and go laptop like I did I settled for a 4060 on one hehe

 

[Lew Zealand]

Functional RT is going to be stuck at the high end until an APU can do it.

High end PC gaming is going to the cloud. Just get used to the concept of renting a GPU and paying more per month for higher details, resolution, and all the rest. That is the future of PC gaming.

Maybe decades from now. Maybe.

But loads of people play FPS games (look at Steam most played) and cloud is useless for that thanks to inevitable high latency. There's no way I'd play Rocket League from the cloud, I tried just to see and it's non-functional. Ark: SE was OK in the cloud as timing isn't as key so for some games it can work but it's still a compromise. Ark in the cloud wasn't as good as on my home PC but it was loads better than on the Dell Latitude laptop I use on the road. But then I prefer to use Latitude times to play games it can manage like FO: New Vegas or Stardew Valley.

Loads of great games out there, just match them to your PC instead of latching your PC to someone else's cloud.

 

[theouto]

Nvidia is the premium brand. Has anyone ever criticised Apple, for example, and Samsung for their sky rocketing phone prices?

Yes, all the time.
Why do you think the term apple tax exists in the first place.

Make of it what you want. for $400-500 I want RT. RT is at third generation already, it shouldn't be confined to the high-end still.
(Just to be clear, I know the suggested cards are cheaper, but I am willing the above amount, provided I can play with some level of RT.)

It is stuck as high end because developers still use it as a high end feature and thus don't take the time to make it perform well. Look at the RT found within the UE, it's not a great performer.
Usually if you want a game that performs how it should with RT, you'd look at 2021 games or prior, those games show us that RT doesn't have to be exclusive to the high end if devs just take the time to make it properly perform. (Metro Exodus PC Enhanced my beloved, the ever great running game that you are)

 

[bug]

Hi,
Might have to pull a bit more and go laptop like I did I settled for a 4060 on one hehe

I hate laptops with a passion. I'm a software engineer, I need the raw HP. And I've been building my own system for 20+ years. I'll just keep building whatever makes sense to me.

It is stuck as high end because developers still use it as a high end feature and thus don't take the time to make it perform well. Look at the RT found within the UE, it's not a great performer.
Usually if you want a game that performs how it should with RT, you'd look at 2021 games or prior, those games show us that RT doesn't have to be exclusive to the high end if devs just take the time to make it properly perform. (Metro Exodus PC Enhanced my beloved, the ever great running game that you are)

It's not stuck at high-end at all. Right now there is an article on the front page stating both the 4060Ti and the 7600XT are supposedly good enough for RT@FHD.
As for UE, that one needs to be cross platform, it probably does a lot of stuff in software in order to achieve that goal. Doesn't mean the hardware isn't up to the task.

 

[Selaya]

Waiting for manufacturers to completely miss the point of this card and lump it with dual-slot full-height coolers and ancillary power connectors.

Manufacturers, get a clue. Low-profile and/or single slot, purely PCIe slot-powered, or stop wasting our time.

needs to be half the price for it to be worthwhile tho bc otherwise $200-250 A2000 will just run over this make no mistake

 

[ThrashZone]

I hate laptops with a passion. I'm a software engineer, I need the raw HP. And I've been building my own system for 20+ years. I'll just keep building whatever makes sense to me.


It's not stuck at high-end at all. Right now there is an article on the front page stating both the 4060Ti and the 7600XT are supposedly good enough for RT@FHD.
As for UE, that one needs to be cross platform, it probably does a lot of stuff in software in order to achieve that goal. Doesn't mean the hardware isn't up to the task.

Hi,
I didn't buy a laptop since 2009 lol and it still works
But now days laptops are pretty good substitutes for desktops, plus portable which I really need atm
I love the acer amd 7840hs laptop I got I'm just a little disappointed it doesn't have a 4070 but I'm not a heavy gamer either so no biggie it has a 4060 and just under 1k.us

 

[efikkan]

Make of it what you want. For $400-500 I want RT. RT is at third generation already, it shouldn't be confined to the high-end still.
(Just to be clear, I know the suggested cards are cheaper, but I am willing the above amount, provided I can play with some level of RT.)

If you want to have a little fun with RT, you should probably look closely at RTX 4070, and if it's only a little more than you're willing to pay, then just set up a price notification (I'm sure there are a such service in your country too), and wait for a little discount. RTX 4070 is a good jump in raw performance over RTX 4060 and RTX 4060 Ti, but RT performance varies a lot from game to game, so you have to see which games are relevant for you.

If you give up on RT, then RX 7700 XT and RX 7800 XT are probably better value, but then as you implied you might not want to pay that much in that case, so look at RTX 4060 then.

If I can't get anything decent (by my own standards) by the time my 1060 goes belly-up, I will happily go IGP.

Not likely going to happen. It's a moving target, so unless you want to play 5 year old games at low by then, the performance deficit is only going to increase, not decrease.

Sadly, games in general, even top games, are to a larger and larger extent mass-produced "shelfware" game engines with very poor optimization, so games in general are getting more buggy and inefficient in the last years. There probably will be gems that are 3x more efficient than the rest, and looks and plays amazing on a RTX 4060 in 4K, but those will be exceptions, not the rule.

I hate laptops with a passion. I'm a software engineer, I need the raw HP. And I've been building my own system for 20+ years. I'll just keep building whatever makes sense to me.

Totally with you on that. I can't stand laptops either, "neutered" desktops either (underpowered or throttling after seconds of load). Laptops have incredible inconsistent performance, are hot, noisy, and by the time you find a "desktop replacement", it has all the disadvantages of both and none of the advantages.
I'd rather stick with my old Sandy Bridge-E i7-3930K over any laptop today, if it wasn't for the fact that my 11 year old computer is a bit unstable.

If you're not dead set on gaming in 4K, you can get a very good gaming experience with a decent mid-range GPU today. I personally prefer smoothness over resolution any day.