Intel NEX "Bartlett Lake-S" CPUs Reportedly in Pipeline

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Supply chain insiders have claimed that Intel is working on extending the lifespan of its LGA 1700 platform—a BenchLife report proposes that the "Bartlett Lake-S" processor family is due soon, courtesy of Team Blue's Network and Edge (NEX) business group. Only a few days ago, the rumor mill had placed "Bartlett Lake-S" CPUs in a mainstream desktop category, due to alleged connections with the Raptor Lake-S Refresh series—the former is also (supposedly) based on the Intel 7 processor process. BenchLife believes that DDR4 and DDR5 memory will be supported, but with no mention of possible ECC functionality. Confusingly, chip industry tipsters believe that the unannounced processors could be launched as 15th Gen Core parts.

BenchLife has a history of discovering and reporting on Intel product roadmaps—apparently Bartlett Lake-S can leverage the same core configurations as seen on Raptor Lake-S; namely 8 Raptor Cove P-Cores and 16 Gracemont E-Cores. An insider source claims that a new pure P-Core-only design could exist, sporting up to twelve Raptor Cove units. According to a leaked Bartlett Lake-S series specification sheet: "the iGPU part will use (existing) Intel Xe architecture, up to Intel UHD Graphics 770." The publication alludes to some type of AI performance enhancement as a distinguishing feature for Bartlett Lake-S, when lined up against 14th Gen Core desktop SKUs. Folks salivating at the prospect of a mainstream DIY launch will have to wait and see (according to BenchLife's supply chain insider): "judging from various specifications, this product belonging to the Intel NEX business group may also be decentralized to the consumer market, but the source did not make this part too clear and reserved some room for maneuver."



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[P4-630]

Interesting...

 

[phanbuey]

This would be perfect

 

[oiawshboiwsahnoidaws]

12 P-Cores? oh my... worse for heavy multi-threading than p8+e16 but sounds interesting for gaming (unless its more expensive than 8p+16e oops lol)

 

[Panther_Seraphin]

So we already had 3 gen on one platform which is a rarity and now we are about to possibly get a 4th??

Intel is really struggling to keep up with their previous set tempo.

 

[Upgrayedd]

What are the chances of a 12p 0e coming with hyperthreading with the recent rumor of HT being omitted for future CPUs?

Just from a regular user view point, non workstation use but heaviest use being high end gaming use.
I'd rather have higher P core counts than higher e core count. Like 10p+8e or 12p+4e. Something like that. I don't really have a need for 12 or 16 e cores. I'd take a 12p or 14p with no HT and 4e cores and a healthy amount of cache with no planned iGPU instead of disabled one, unlocked as well. I'd like to think 4-6e is all a gamer would need to keep background tasks off P cores.

 

[Panther_Seraphin]

What are the chances of a 12p 0e coming with hyperthreading with the recent rumor of HT being omitted for future CPUs?

I would suspect this model will have hyperthreading as the core design isnt new until Arrow lake.

Just from a regular user view point, non workstation use but heaviest use being high end gaming use.
I'd rather have higher P core counts than higher e core count. Like 10p+8e or 12p+4e. Something like that. I don't really have a need for 12 or 16 e cores. I'd take a 12p or 14p with no HT and 4e cores and a healthy amount of cache with no planned iGPU instead of disabled one, unlocked as well. I'd like to think 4-6e is all a gamer would need to keep background tasks off P cores.

Problem with that is the die space required for a P core is basically the same as 4 e cores.

Intel Bartlett Lake-S Desktop CPUs Might Feature SKUs With 12 P-Cores, Target Network & Edge First

Intel is prepping up its Bartlett Lake-S Desktop CPUs which will primarily target Network & Edge customers with up to 12 P-Cores.

wccftech.com

WCCFtech (not the greatest reliability i know) has mentioned that it looks like these are going to be a similar design to Raptor Lake 8P + 16E Cores but also there may be a die design with the 12P cores as well.

The rumours to me are screaming that its a metor lake design adapted to Desktop with the NPU for the AI boost, 2 of the 6P Core tiles making up the 12P core top model and with it being tiled possibly being able to remove/replace the E cores as mentioned to suit.

 

[Eternit]

Problem with that is the die space required for a P core is basically the same as 4 e cores.

right. So 12P+0E takes the same space as 8P+16E. I prefer 12P+0E in my gaming desktop. For the light laptop I prefer 4P+8E instead of 6P+0E.

 

[Panther_Seraphin]

right. So 12P+0E takes the same space as 8P+16E. I prefer 12P+0E in my gaming desktop. For the light laptop I prefer 4P+8E instead of 6P+0E.

Same Space.......Power however......That is probably another consideration. Especially if they allow it to be completely unlocked/overclocked.

 

[Eternit]

Same Space.......Power however......That is probably another consideration. Especially if they allow it to be completely unlocked/overclocked.

Probably. Intel is able to create high clocked CPUs but they are using a lot of power so they created hybrid CPU to win in both single thread and multi thread benchmarks, but not so great in games. Well they are quite good I must say, but could be better.

 

[P4-630]

but not so great in games. . Well they are quite good I must say, but could be better.

 

[THU31]

I'd love a 12 P-core CPU. Could disable HT and have 12 physical threads with max performance for each of them. This is my ideal scenario for gaming with CPU video encoding in the background.

With Arrow Lake rumored to be 8+16 with no HT, this could be much more interesting. Would be a great upgrade for existing LGA 1700 users.