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MSI Preparing New RTX 4070 Ti Super Expert and RTX 4070 Ti Super Aero

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MSI is apparently preparing to unveil two more GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super graphics cards, the MSI RTX 4070 Ti Super Expert and the MSI RTX 4070 Ti Super Aero. The new MSI Expert series was unveiled at the CES show back in January, and currently, MSI only uses the design on the MSI RTX 4080 Super graphics card. On the other hand, the Aero series has been around for quite some time, but we haven't seen many of those cards, unless you count the Aero ITX version of the GeForce RTX 4060. As Videocardz.com notes, MSI actually has a total of 12 different RTX 4070 Ti Super designs, and that did not stop it from adding two more, despite the fact that the RTX 4070 Ti Super was only announced just over a month ago.

The MSI Expert lineup is quite an interesting design, announced back at the CES 2024 show, and uses a triple-slot design with a rather interesting fan placement taken from NVIDIA's Founder's Edition book. It features two fans, one at the front and one at the back of the card, pushing air in opposite directions. MSI has decided to call the new cooling solution the "MSI Flow Frozr". The front also features a mesh metal cover, which does look quite interesting.



The MSI Aero GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super 16 GB is actually already available, even though it has yet to be officially announced by MSI. It uses a standard blower-style cooling solution, boosts up to 2,610 MHz, and currently sells over at Newegg.com for $899.99.

We are definitely looking forward to seeing more MSI EXPERT series graphics cards from MSI, as the design certainly impressed us back when we had a chance to review the MSI RTX 4080 SUPER EXPERT series graphics card.

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The expert card is amazing underneath can mod with 2 maybe 3 120mm/140mm.
 
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These names. I really thought there was some joke or something. We truly are living out the movies...
 
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I want that Aero card.

I just can't afford it. That will be over $1K cad
 
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so what do these bring over the "normal" 4070ti apart from price
 
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Even that the review of the MSI EXPERT 4080 super didnt impress much from the cooling side I cant help wonder if one have issues with high chipset temps on the motherboard like I do on my x570 Aorus master - that haveing a GPU that dosent dump a ton of hot air directly in to the chipset cooler would be a advantage. Being on a 7900XTX its not going to temp me but I would like to see this testet in a case setup between to identical cards if Techpowerup is going to do a test with the 4070 TI Super e.g. a ASUS model vs the EXPERT
 
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Nvidia long name + AIB series long name = lazy marketing

MSI Nvidia Geforce RTX 4070 Ti Super Expert

Why? Just Why?
 
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I really wanted to get the ProArt 4080 Super...but my god $$ ($1149). And then it sells out instantly everywhere and shows up for $1700 on Ebay and Amazon. +$150 to $700 for aesthetics over a vanilla 4080 class card.
 
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so what do these bring over the "normal" 4070ti apart from price
4070 ti (vanilla) was released last year, 4070ti super was released this year but all of them have 3 or more slots. So this 4070 ti super aero is currently your only option to get a 4070 Ti Super with 2 slots.

So in other words, for us that need more free space in our motherboards in order to add more cards (sound card, USB addon Card, etc), this is a good option.
 

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I recommend all graphics card companies publicize their fan rpm strategy for blower style cards, so that gamers may tell if those blower style cards may be a fit for small form factor gaming machines.
 
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The Expert model looks kind cool and ripping of the nvidia idea of having one fan on each side and the flow through design is the correct choice. Since the design goes for straight lines instead of a big angled plastic shroud it's also doesn't waste as much space as other cards. That being said, was it really necessary to use 3 slots to cool a 4070!?
 
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so what do these bring over the "normal" 4070ti apart from price
The blower one is really not aimed at regular consumers, probably intended to be sold for AI use, so that you can fit 4 of them in a single PC and stuff like that.
 
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Coming up next; RTX 4070 Ti Super Sensi and RTX 4070 Super "Board Don't Hit Back" Editions. :laugh:
Nope, I'll wait for the Uber-duper-mega-max-ultra-dilithium-crystal versions thank you, hehehe :D
 
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Nvidia long name + AIB series long name = lazy marketing

MSI Nvidia Geforce RTX 4070 Ti Super Expert

Why? Just Why?
I just can't wait to hear someone read all that out (with the interjecting clip of nVidia dudes saying "tie")

Can we just go back to the day an age of AIBs making up their own suffixes? Maybe, RTX 4070 TX? ("Ti eXtreme" but also "Texas") :laugh:
 

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Dual slot Blower dissipation can't possibly handle more than 150 W silently. And cutting the mighty 64 mb down to 48 was a sneaky move. If it had 8192 shader 64mb and slower memory because it doesn't need the bandwidth that would be a lot better in my book. Now it's just all kinds of wrong. And this expert is too big. I need a single fan option.
 
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