AMD "Strix Halo" Zen 5 Mobile Processor Pictured: Chiplet-based, Uses 256-bit LPDDR5X

[Lewzke]

Put 8 cores and bigger GPU die, we need good integrated graphics. Low and midrange GPU segment should be all integrated in the future, there is no point anymore to keep the lower segment discrete graphics market.

 

[nullington]

Do you really need 16 cores in such a beast? Or put another way, how are they fitting all this into such a small package?

It is much harder to create the hardware. Only 2 companies in the world can do it and bring a product to market (AMD and Intel). So generally the hardware has to come before the widespread usage in software. Nobody is gong to put much effort into creating software when there is no market/users for it.

 

[8086]

The bad AMD driver quality misinformation is an internet myth perpetuated by bad players. There is a lot speculation on the who with regard to these bad players from viral Nvidia marketing to brand loyalists. But rest assured as you have found out, there is no truth to it.

There’s also thinking out there that if company A does something better than company B then it means company B has bad quality control or is ignorant to making good products. This relates to super sampling and ray tracing for the current discussion. These two things are features which Nvidia simply does better. It has no relationship to drivers or driver quality. If these features are not important to you, paying the extra premium priced into Nvidia products for said features would be a waste of money.

AMD has been making good drivers for over 20 years now. Prior to the ATi 9700 pro, this statement could have held true that ATi drivers are not good. But since 9700pro and AMD's take over, the quality has done nothing but improve. People need to stop spreading what they don't know and only hear.

 

[AusWolf]

AMD has been making good drivers for over 20 years now. Prior to the ATi 9700 pro, this statement could have held true that ATi drivers are not good. But since 9700pro and AMD's take over, the quality has done nothing but improve. People need to stop spreading what they don't know and only hear.

I have to add, I did have driver-related problems with the 5700 XT. But before and after that, my experience with the drivers has been flawless.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

I read on a forum that it evolved from the "nVidia is faster but ATI has a better image" parable, which itself originated from the pre DX9 era when some of the rendering/imaging methods were not standardized yet and the manufacturers did they own separate solutions (don't ask, I wasn't really into this back than and it was like the DX10-11 times when I read it). It held itself -relatively falsely- during DX9 because of the different HDR profileing they used.

Actually, thats even older and I recall that it went like this, quality wise:


1- Matrox
2- ATI.
3- Ngreedia.

And it was all the time during regular usage, not just during gaming. Better color reproduction, sharpness, image stability, etc.

Really miss those days.

 

[bug]

Actually, thats even older and I recall that it went like this, quality wise:


1- Matrox
2- ATI.
3- Ngreedia.

And it was all the time during regular usage, not just during gaming. Better color reproduction, sharpness, image stability, etc.

Really miss those days.

There was also STB and S3 before that.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Actually, thats even older and I recall that it went like this, quality wise:


1- Matrox
2- ATI.
3- Ngreedia.

And it was all the time during regular usage, not just during gaming. Better color reproduction, sharpness, image stability, etc.

Really miss those days.

That's from the time we used analog RGB on monitors, and Matrox used higher quality external RAMDAC chips in their Millennium range.
It had little to do with the GPU architecture or drivers.

 

[8086]

I have to add, I did have driver-related problems with the 5700 XT. But before and after that, my experience with the drivers has been flawless.

No one ever talks about it, but over the years; Nvidia has had a number of it's share of driver issues including one infamous update that was killing gpus left and right.

Matrox is still alive.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

That's from the time we used analog RGB on monitors, and Matrox used higher quality external RAMDAC chips in their Millennium range.

Indeed and I recall hearing/reading about them using superior/better components.

It had little to do with the GPU architecture or drivers.

Never stated those specific points, simply brands/companies as it was discussed back in the day.

 

[8086]

I had a high end Matrox card back in the day and the image quality was stunning. Better black levels than any other graphics card I owned in the early 2000s.