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Corsair MP700 Pro SE 4 TB

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The Corsair MP700 Pro SE solid-state-drive boasts impressive speeds of up to 14 GB/s, thanks to the lightning-fast PCI-Express 5.0 interface. In our review we're testing the 4 TB version, which offers tons of space and incredible performance that's the best of all the drives we tested so far.

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Finally a PCIe 5 SSD with decent realworld performance (boot time, load times, etc.). The power efficiency is terrible though. Seems like 990 Pro is still the best.
 
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Bring the speed, lose the heat, only then can we talk :D

Also, I hope that their comment about MSRP vs. street price pans out (which it normally does) but most retailers will still try to milk the MSRP at first, at least until it starts selling in significant volumes anyway...
 
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I don't recall any BG3 level taking 66-74s to load and I may actually have the game loaded on a 2.5 SSD
 

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I don't recall any BG3 level taking 66-74s to load and I may actually have the game loaded on a 2.5 SSD
Time from starting the game, not time from clicking "load" in the savegame list
 

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Finally a PCIe 5 SSD with decent realworld performance (boot time, load times, etc.). The power efficiency is terrible though. Seems like 990 Pro is still the best.
Idk, seems within spitting distance from any other PCIe drive out there. You can get 4TB for $200 and change these days. Sure, it won't be PCIe5, so you'll miss out on (some) overheating, but hey!
 
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The line between Gen4 and Gen5 performance is still very blurry, it would seem. In some cases a mid-tier Gen3 drive does everything at about the same speed.

If there weren't so many issues with Gen5, ie the need for a premium, expensive motherboard, the need for a lot of cooling, and the high cost of the devices, then it would make more sense - but until there are more tangible benefits to offset all the drawbacks, 'bragging rights' would appear to be the only reason to care about buying a Gen5 SSD.

The WD SN580 and Lexar NM790 still remain as the most sensible choice. You geat nearly the same real-world performance with none of the Gen5 drawbacks, at a bargain price - and laptop compatibility since both of them perform well without heatsinks.

The median result of all the various pages of graphs looks something like this:

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...and if you could use any of those drives, ranging from overpriced flagships to old, discontinued mid-tier gen3 drives and ultra-budge QLC drives, does it really matter about performance in a huge file copy you might do once or twice a month, and it's very likely not a time-sensitive operation?

What matters is cost, heat, power, reliability, compatibility - and Gen5 drives so far fail on all fronts.
 
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The line between Gen4 and Gen5 performance is still very blurry, it would seem. In some cases a mid-tier Gen3 drive does everything at about the same speed.

If there weren't so many issues with Gen5, ie the need for a premium, expensive motherboard, the need for a lot of cooling, and the high cost of the devices, then it would make more sense - but until there are more tangible benefits to offset all the drawbacks, 'bragging rights' would appear to be the only reason to care about buying a Gen5 SSD.

The WD SN580 and Lexar NM790 still remain as the most sensible choice. You geat nearly the same real-world performance with none of the Gen5 drawbacks, at a bargain price - and laptop compatibility since both of them perform well without heatsinks.

The median result of all the various pages of graphs looks something like this:

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...and if you could use any of those drives, ranging from overpriced flagships to old, discontinued mid-tier gen3 drives and ultra-budge QLC drives, does it really matter about performance in a huge file copy you might do once or twice a month, and it's very likely not a time-sensitive operation?

What matters is cost, heat, power, reliability, compatibility - and Gen5 drives so far fail on all fronts.
I mean, it probably makes sense if you frequently work with very large files (e.g. video editing) or if you have a lot of data that you backup often(but then you'd need fast drives on both ends). For the majority of users, this is still a hard pass.
 
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pointless drive, pointless move to PCIE5, pointless heat generator.
We need Optane random r/w tech back to see the next step in consumer SSD.
Agreed, but we could have something in the meantime with an all SLC drive, they make them for enterprise and while the capacity is lower (obviously), they have serious random low queue depth performance increases over typical TLC drives. I think some company should offer 256-512GB all SLC drive as an OS/cache drive....I'd definitely buy one of those over one of the 5.0 TLC drives where you can't even notice a change in the user experience.

Something akin to Kioxia's FL6 series with XL-Flash....all SLC NAND with super low latency
 

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What happened to the numbers in the Random Access Performance charts? The numbers look completely different from the MSI Spatium M580 Frozr review! The test system is a bit different, but did something change about the methodology to cause the numbers to be cut by 2/3?
Yeah, the previous testing was reading zero-bytes (writes were always using random), now I'm reading randomized data
 
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Well here is my 2 cents. Based on the review of the MP700 I replaced the Seagate Firecuda 530 2TB with a 1 TB MP700 and could feel the difference. Every program and Game loads faster. That inspired me to get the 2TB version for Data purposes. I do not regret my purchases in anyway as the cost was not much more than a 4.0 drive of the same capacity. As far as this one goes it is a little expensive as I bought the 1 TB MP 700 for $179 CAD and the 2TB for $249 CAD. Both on sale.

If you read any NVME review on TPU you will see that the MP700 sits near the top on every single benchmark. That can be felt in real world use. I am not saying that they are faster than Optane but much cheaper for the capacity you get. This particular drive is too expensive for me though.
 
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The fact that the 970 EVO Plus has relative performance only 15% slower after all these years shows we have hit a wall with the truly huge gains being made in temperature, power and price per GB. All the key metrics ticked :banghead:
 
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I would liked to have seen a game load test using a game that used the direct drive API.
 

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I would liked to have seen a game load test using a game that used the direct drive API.
You mean DirectStorage? Like Ratchet and Clank? It's included
 
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I would liked to have seen a game load test using a game that used the direct drive API.
Either it's not implemented well, or PCs have enough bandwidth that it doesn't make any real difference.

Perhaps in a few years it'll matter but I wouldn't be putting any weight on DirectStorage for this generation of SSD purchases. Maybe it'll be more relevant next time you're looking for an SSD...
 
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