Intel Postpones Magdeburg Fab Construction to 2025 Due to Soil Concerns

[AleksandarK]

According to the report from Volksstimme.de, Intel has delayed its Magdeburg fab construction until 2025 due to difficulties in acquiring suitable land. The company had initially planned to begin construction in 2024, but the process has been slowed significantly due to the availability of suitable land. The Magdeburg plant is a significant investment for Intel, with the company planning to invest around €30 billion in the facility. The plant is expected to create thousands of jobs and play a crucial role in the company's European expansion plans. However, the delay in construction is likely to impact these plans and may result in a longer timeline for the plant's completion.

The delay is attributed to the difficulty in finding suitable land for the plant. Intel's original plan of producing a factory on the land concluded that there was humus-rich black soil up to 40 cm in the ground, which would get removed for usage by agricultural fields in Germany. However, now the top layer of black soil, which needs to be excavated, is measured up to 90 cm in depth, which doesn't allow fab construction to start and requires the removal of the soil in order to satisfy the safety regulations. This useful soil has to be extracted first before being "contaminated" with concrete and other types of foundation soils like gravel. The state of Saxony-Anhalt postponed the construction until the required soil was removed and regulations were met. This will supposedly happen by the end of 2024, and construction will start in 2025.



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[P4-630]

Just get more dozers/excavators/dumptrucks at work...

 

[ty_ger]

How hard is it to move soil? If a little more than double the expected soil is a big hurdle, that doesn't bode well for the things that are actually challenging.

 

[Wirko]

I'll take care of that in no time! I"ll just let our roadmap designers draw a few new roadmaps first, so I don't get lost on the way.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

How hard is it to move soil? If a little more than double the expected soil is a big hurdle, that doesn't bode well for the things that are actually challenging.

It's not hard, it just takes a while.

Best case, that's over 3000 dump truck loads that has to be carefully graded off and piled up, then scooped into dump trucks.

Civil work is the most time consuming part of construction, as you can't do anything else while it is going on.

 

[P4-630]

Civil work is the most time consuming part of construction, as you can't do anything else while it is going on.

If they get double the workers and double the machinery they would be done faster? No?

 

[Dragokar]

If they get double the workers and double the machinery they would be done faster? No?

Well I am close to that area and I know how Germany works

If the contract states amount of workers and machinery used, they will exactly use that amount. Otherwise, you need a new contract which probably demands a public announcement since the subsidies. So it simply will take more time or more money......they will not just increase workforce. In my city we right now have a whole public place who gets new pavement and it is just one worker from Portugal who is doing the whole place. The contracted company does have way more people, but the public contract wouldn't work out if they use more man and machinery, so he is doing it by himself. He is a super nice dude and worker by the way.

 

[phanbuey]

Well I am close to that area and I know how Germany works

If the contract states amount of workers and machinery used, they will exactly use that amount. Otherwise, you need a new contract which probably demands a public announcement since the subsidies. So it simply will take more time or more money......they will not just increase workforce. In my city we right now have a whole public place who gets new pavement and it is just one worker from Portugal who is doing the whole place. The contracted company does have way more people, but the public contract wouldn't work out if they use more man and machinery, so he is doing it by himself. He is a super nice dude and worker by the way.

I have employees in Germany now and I am constantly surprised at how powerful the systematic bureacracy is in every aspect of life.

 

[ty_ger]

What are they going to do when they find out that they need 200 more feet of conduit to add another circuit that they didn't think about? That might be a 2 year delay.

 

[Dragokar]

I have employees in Germany now and I am constantly surprised at how powerful the systematic bureacracy is in every aspect of life.

We are strong in that regard XD

 

[Random_User]

I'll take care of that in no time! I"ll just let our roadmap designers draw a few new roadmaps first, so I don't get lost on the way.

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Well I am close to that area and I know how Germany works

If the contract states amount of workers and machinery used, they will exactly use that amount. Otherwise, you need a new contract which probably demands a public announcement since the subsidies. So it simply will take more time or more money......they will not just increase workforce. In my city we right now have a whole public place who gets new pavement and it is just one worker from Portugal who is doing the whole place. The contracted company does have way more people, but the public contract wouldn't work out if they use more man and machinery, so he is doing it by himself. He is a super nice dude and worker by the way.

I suppose that guy wan't CEO? I mean, the C-suit guys get the salaries, worth an entire army of workers. Must be very proficient in all areas, so nobody else is needed.

 

[Wirko]

After some thinking, it's all clear. Two poor interns from Germany, who had never heard of "inches" before, were handed a ground radar provided by Intel and brought from the US. Forty, the machine said at the site. Of course the guys also had a spike and hammer and were told to double-check the measurements with those but who would believe a low-tech tool with no wi-fi?

 

[Juventas]

Translation: You won't be getting your Nova Lake CPU in 2027 because last year Hans didn't dig his hole deep enough.

 

[mechtech]

How hard is it to move soil? If a little more than double the expected soil is a big hurdle, that doesn't bode well for the things that are actually challenging.

Depends on how deep it goes.

Building on black muck, loam etc. is usually a no no.

I've seen places here in Canada where it can be over 50ft deep. Main issue is cost of buying crushed rock, sand filling in the hole and packing every 8 inches. Could always drive down piles. So again like always, comes down to money.

 

[ty_ger]

Depends on how deep it goes.

Building on black muck, loam etc. is usually a no no.

I've seen places here in Canada where it can be over 50ft deep. Main issue is cost of buying crushed rock, sand filling in the hole and packing every 8 inches. Could always drive down piles. So again like always, comes down to money.

They didn't say anything about the quality of the soil relating to the foundation. That will probably be another year delay. The article just said that they had to remove 90cm of topsoil instead of 40cm of topsoil because the soil was too good to legally 'waste' by building on top of it.

If you read the article, you don't need to speculate as much.

 

[kondamin]

Thats pretty lame, ban Germans from taking a summer holiday this year but permit them to go and play with the dirt in Magdeburg in stead of at the beach and I’m certain all of it will be done the second week of summer

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

This is really not as bad as it seems in the article.

The civil work will be complete by the end of the year, and it is evidently just starting. It would take 3-4 months already, so it is an additional 3 months.

Not a full year delay like the article implied.

 

[Dragokar]

This is really not as bad as it seems in the article.

The civil work will be complete by the end of the year, and it is evidently just starting. It would take 3-4 months already, so it is an additional 3 months.

Not a full year delay like the article implied.

Well unless they do find another history related stuff from the archaeologists.

 

[remixedcat]

my poor af family we were out in 105F steaming hot sunny weather digging holes and trenches down 6 feet for footers for a foundation for a big double-wide house intel has no excuses... just dig deeper and pour better footings! Intel can put on their big boy pants and do some digging....

the hospital my hubby worked at poured 40 FOOT FOOTERS for the cardiac building!!! it can be done even in ohio valley unstable af soil...

 

[Wirko]

That excess soil isn't worthless, right? In my country, the construction site manager would call some friends who happen to know some farmers nearby. The problem would be gone the next Sunday afternoon or Sunday night, with no trace left behind.