ASRock Intros Radeon RX 6500 XT 8GB Phantom Gaming

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ASRock this week introduced the Radeon RX 6500 XT 8 GB Phantom Gaming graphics card. The RX 6500 XT comes with a reference memory size of 4 GB over the tiny 64-bit GDDR6 memory bus of the "Navi 24" silicon it's based on, but ASRock decided to double this, probably using high-density 32 Gbit memory chips, or two sets of 16 Gbit chips piggybacking each other. The card is spruced up with Phantom Gaming styling, is 24 cm long, standard height, and 2 slots thick. The cooling solution features an aluminium fin-stack heatsink that's ventilated by a pair of fans. Power is drawn from a single 8-pin PCIe power connector. Display outputs include one each of DisplayPort 1.4, and HDMI 2.1 with VRR. This isn't the first RX 6500 XT with 8 GB, Sapphire has had an 8 GB Pulse graphics card in its lineup for a while now. ASRock didn't reveal the pricing of this card.



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[Selaya]

reposting a card that's been doa,
gj asrock

 

[Minus Infinity]

One of the worst gpu's in history: Steve of Hardware Unboxed describes it as a POS.

 

[Dirt Chip]

If not 3 fan's design and >3 slot design- no buy.
If you go all stupid, at least do it properly..

 

[PLAfiller]

Should've been an ITX card. I understand they are re-using ready-made cooling solutions, but length should've been contained within the PCIe slot. That second fan goes way out the back.

 

[wolf]

Remember when AMD rapidly repurposed a mobile GPU into a desktop card while missing expected desktop features, with a gimped bus, performing significantly lower than expected based on the line-up above it, with only 4GB VRAM after publicly saying that's not enough, at an insultingly high MSRP, during a GPU shortage, to fleece as many desperate buyers as they could?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

 

[RaceT3ch]

A GPU that no one bought on launch, comes with double the VRAM and an excessive cooler. And yet it performs like a 7-year-old GPU in a PCIE 4.0 PC. You got 3.0? It'll perform like a 11-year-old GPU.
AMAZING!!!

 

[A Computer Guy]

reposting a card that's been doa,
gj asrock

Asrock had an 8GB RX 5500 XT ITX GPU that wasn't too bad for $200 just before GPU prices went insane.

For $165 (on newegg right now) is the Asrock RX 6500 XT 8 GB really that bad especially compared to other sub $200 cards? Does it perform better than 3050 6GB under $200?

 

[Selaya]

the 6500xt is legit a step backwards from the 5500xt. the 5500xt will beat the 6500xt to it in basically every possible scenario imaginable.

 

[Apocalypsee]

With double the RAM, would this equals to less traffic on PCIe bus? I doubt it will improve performance in any way though

 

[natr0n]

Modern day what nvidia would do double the memory of a lesser speed gpu.Then take memory like DDR3 cards with double amount DDR2.

 

[AusWolf]

It's not as bad as some of you may think:

But it is too late.

With double the RAM, would this equals to less traffic on PCIe bus? I doubt it will improve performance in any way though

It does in some cases.

 

[JWNoctis]

Are they trying to compete with the various RX 470/RX 580 remarks/refurbs out there? Seems like one way it could make sense.

 

[Lew Zealand]

The 4GB 6500 XT is not a good GPU though with 8GB that could make it a decent GPU.

the 6500xt is legit a step backwards from the 5500xt. the 5500xt will beat the 6500xt to it in basically every possible scenario imaginable.

No. Alan Wake 2 is one example where the 6500XT will demolish the 5500XT and there are a few others where the 6500 XT edges ahead though there are more where the 5500 XT has a small but significant lead.

A GPU that no one bought on launch, comes with double the VRAM and an excessive cooler. And yet it performs like a 7-year-old GPU in a PCIE 4.0 PC. You got 3.0? It'll perform like a 11-year-old GPU.
AMAZING!!!

Ha ha but no. I'm sure the 780 Ti will be faster than the 6500 XT in some older DX11 games but Kepler simply won't even start a number of today's games.

Asrock had an 8GB RX 5500 XT ITX GPU that wasn't too bad for $200 just before GPU prices went insane.

For $165 (on newegg right now) is the Asrock RX 6500 XT 8 GB really that bad especially compared to other sub $200 cards? Does it perform better than 3050 6GB under $200?

No, the 3050 6GB is about 20% faster even while being constrained by PCIe slot-power to 70W. If you look at the 3050 6GB's specs, it does everything right where the 6500 XT does it wrong. Except for this 8GB option.

 

[ARF]

Remember when AMD rapidly repurposed a mobile GPU into a desktop card while missing expected desktop features, with a gimped bus, performing significantly lower than expected based on the line-up above it, with only 4GB VRAM after publicly saying that's not enough, at an insultingly high MSRP, during a GPU shortage, to fleece as many desperate buyers as they could?

Navi 24 with VCN 3.0.33 is a terrible failure that no one should and will buy.

Video Core Next - Wikipedia

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Another epic failure by AMD's CEO Lisa Su that instead of launching a new Navi 44 GPU made on the newer TSMC N3 node in order to be fast and energy efficient, she still prefers to exploit the N7 process which delivers 2016-type-of-performance.

Pathetic!

 

[AusWolf]

Another epic failure by AMD's CEO Lisa Su that instead of launching a new Navi 44 GPU made on the newer TSMC N3 node in order to be fast and energy efficient, she still prefers to exploit the N7 process which delivers 2016-type-of-performance.

Pathetic!

Asrock launches a new card that you don't like - boom, Lisa Su's fault! You're funny, you know.

 

[ARF]

Asrock launches a new card that you don't like - boom, Lisa Su's fault! You're funny, you know.

It is a shared fault.
ASRock should release RX 7600 SE or RX 7500 on the base of 28-CU Navi 33, and if possible make the cards without the awful coil whine.
While AMD could at least try to assist and act more proactively in the process.
Not to mention the much needed N3 pipe cleaner.

This is simply a desperate attempt to activate the sales, without having a proper solution what exactly to release.

 

[Gigaherz]

Cheapest GPU Heatsink I´ve seen in a while.

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

Doesn't 8GB actually help this card due to PCI-E limitation saturating 4GB version?

 

[AusWolf]

It is a shared fault.
ASRock should release RX 7600 SE or RX 7500 on the base of 28-CU Navi 33, and if possible make the cards without the awful coil whine.
While AMD could at least try to assist and act more proactively in the process.
Not to mention the much needed N3 pipe cleaner.

This is simply a desperate attempt to activate the sales, without having a proper solution what exactly to release.

Who knows why Asrock released this right now. Maybe they have a ton of Navi 24 chips collecting dust. If that's the case, you really can't fault them for trying to get rid of them.

Doesn't 8GB actually help this card due to PCI-E limitation saturating 4GB version?

Yes it does. I linked the same video only a few of posts above yours.

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

^Thanks, missed it.

 

[wolf]

A GPU that no one bought on launch, comes with double the VRAM and an excessive cooler. And yet it performs like a 7-year-old GPU in a PCIE 4.0 PC. You got 3.0? It'll perform like a 11-year-old GPU.
AMAZING!!!

Said in jest but not far off at all, performs like a 10 year old GTX 980 or 8 year old 1060 in pcie 4.0 mode, and yeah considerably worse in 3.0... 8gb was needed from the start and could have mitigated the reception to some extent, not enough though.

When I hear AMD cares about gamers, I remember, among other things, the story of the 6500XT.

 

[ARF]

Said in jest but not far off at all, performs like a 10 year old GTX 980 or 8 year old 1060 in pcie 4.0 mode, and yeah considerably worse in 3.0... 8gb was needed from the start and could have mitigated the reception to some extent, not enough though.

You can see the tremendously improved textures resolution on that cow fur in the above youtube video.
More VRAM obviously doesn't only uplift the framerate.

When I hear AMD cares about gamers, I remember, among other things, the story of the 6500XT.

Imagine how much profit margins they lose every quarter without shipping a new energy efficient and fast N3 Navi 4x...
No wonder why no one wants to work with AMD's mobile "solutions"...

 

[Ruru]

The 6500 XT should've been a 8GB card from the beginning.

Cheapest GPU Heatsink I´ve seen in a while.

My Powercolor 6700 XT Fighter has a thing to say.

 

[Firedrops]

I distinctively recall AMD swearing up and down that the physical laws of the universe made it IMPOSSIBLE for this die to have more than 4 GB.

Just like how they swore up and down that AM4 literally could not support 5000 series CPUs no matter what while forcing their partners to un-release perfectly working compatible bios updates.

Damn, thought AMD was my friend and would never lie to me.