Microsoft Closer to Removing Local Accounts from Windows 11, Removes Help Page on How to Switch to One

[Wasteland]

Right, 10 was supposed to be the last version, right up until MS suddenly announced 11, and if I recall correctly, there was only a very short delay between the announcement and 11's launch. It's understandable that people felt blindsided. 12 may not be officially in the works, but at this point I think you'd have to be mildly insane to assume that a new version of Windows won't eventually materialize.

Either way, MS clearly feels quite comfortable messing with their 11 users. Whatever 11's current state may be, users can't trust that MS won't drastically "alter the deal," Vader-style, at some point, or indeed perhaps at many points, in the future. That lack of trust is a red flag in and of itself, even if the product ultimately remains mostly fine (due to a combination of third-party workarounds, and a cycle of consumer/media backlashes against MS's worst plans, e.g. Recall).

 

[stimpy88]

Right, 10 was supposed to be the last version, right up until MS suddenly announced 11, and if I recall correctly, there was only a very short delay between the announcement and 11's launch. It's understandable that people felt blindsided. 12 may not be officially in the works, but at this point I think you'd have to be mildly insane to assume that a new version of Windows won't eventually materialize.

Either way, MS clearly feels quite comfortable messing with their 11 users. Whatever 11's current state may be, users can't trust that MS won't drastically "alter the deal," Vader-style, at some point, or indeed perhaps at many points, in the future. That lack of trust is a red flag in and of itself, even if the product ultimately remains mostly fine (due to a combination of third-party workarounds, and a cycle of consumer/media backlashes against MS's worst plans, e.g. Recall).

So true! But I have to admit that 24H2 is more like what Windows 11 should have been on day one, especially when you remove the bloatware. I'm really enjoying it so far.

 

[Vayra86]

It's been a blessing on my laptop. Committed memory is just RAM use, no 15GB of pagefile doing nothing, power consumption with the new battery saver mode actually helps, the race to idle is much faster so I finally get 4 to 5 hours of battery on this Alder Lake-P series, and the new colour management is a solid improvement.
It refuses a Microsoft account, only accepts a corporate/education or local one during installation (you can use a Microsoft account once it finishes, but no enforced one bothering you), the new installer looks nice, and overall it's just what consumer Windows 11 should have always been.

Just added the store back (optional), and it's good to go.

Plus it's the only real safe option for old hardware without UEFI/TPM/Secureboot support, IoT LTSC is a Windows 10 drop-in replacement there.

Stahp I already wet myself reading this I'm LTSC'ing all the things soon

Right, 10 was supposed to be the last version, right up until MS suddenly announced 11, and if I recall correctly, there was only a very short delay between the announcement and 11's launch. It's understandable that people felt blindsided. 12 may not be officially in the works, but at this point I think you'd have to be mildly insane to assume that a new version of Windows won't eventually materialize.

Either way, MS clearly feels quite comfortable messing with their 11 users. Whatever 11's current state may be, users can't trust that MS won't drastically "alter the deal," Vader-style, at some point, or indeed perhaps at many points, in the future. That lack of trust is a red flag in and of itself, even if the product ultimately remains mostly fine (due to a combination of third-party workarounds, and a cycle of consumer/media backlashes against MS's worst plans, e.g. Recall).

Yeah I'm not even comfy in the semi annual Windows 10 release channel to be honest. The small changes are annoying, and never really beneficial. Suddenly, Edge and Search pop up again, and again, and again. At some moments you're getting another onboarding process flow in front of your face. 'We're almost ready" they say then on the screen. What the fuck? I was already ready for a few years now, GTFO!

MS update policy is a bit like a spoiled kid that keeps asking for candy, even after you got fed up and told him he wouldn't get ANY candy anymore. Awww? Pwease? *poke poke*

 

[Melvis]

This is the main reason why I wont be moving to W11, W10 will most likely be my last Windows! and it took me 5 yrs to move to it in the first place as in my eyes it took that long to get out of Beta.....Dual boot linux/W10 might be in the near future

 

[chrcoluk]

Couple of months ago (January I think) I've tried multiple distros and drivers for gaming on desktop.
HDR for games in linux is STILL non-existent in 2024, it was a major letdown for me.
In games I play/tried I got much lower FPS. ~200FPS in Windows; same settings in Linux I got ~120 with stuttering.
I went back to Win 11 and made it feel&look like Win 7.
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Wow at what he achieved, but also the presenter, one of the best well paced videos I have ever seen on youtube, he didnt over explain things and moved on to the next thing so well.

The sad thing is that setup will likely break on every feature update, the tools will need updating and so forth.

That we have all these tools and this type of content, Microsoft should be taking this in and realising they may have got things wrong in the UI area.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It's never coming out then?

Not anytime soon.

Nobody knew Windows 11 was coming either.

Not true. Some of us knew it was coming 2 years before the beta testing hit.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

For what it's worth, I did notice they still have the tutorial on their support site to switch from MSA to local. Maybe it was an error, or they quietly brought it back.

 

[GoldenX]

Stahp I already wet myself reading this I'm LTSC'ing all the things soon

It gets better. The start menu only looks for local files, it doesn't perform any Bing search.

 

[Vayra86]

It gets better. The start menu only looks for local files, it doesn't perform any Bing search.

One does wonder why MS actively keeps the best version of its OS hidden like that. This all signifies they know their consumer Windows is a massive POS that they keep making worse. Puzzling indeed.

Oh yeah, profit ofcourse through the strategy of making people's lives miserable - the Meta/TikTok way. I guess they learned a bit about stupid people unable to help themselves. They're cash cows.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

One does wonder why MS actively keeps the best version of its OS hidden like that. This all signifies they know their consumer Windows is a massive POS that they keep making worse. Puzzling indeed.

Oh yeah, profit ofcourse through the strategy of making people's lives miserable - the Meta/TikTok way. I guess they learned a bit about stupid people unable to help themselves. They're cash cows.

AI ambitions and the ability to upsell for-pay services like Office, Xbox, Gamepass, etc.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Has anyone seen the leak on Windows 11 "Enterprise G"? While the ISO floating around the internet is just a mock-up, it mimics what the real Chinese version is supposed to be, minus all the Chinese Government crap that might get injected.

 

[chrcoluk]

LTSC not getting these prompts.

 

[stimpy88]

Has anyone seen the leak on Windows 11 "Enterprise G"? While the ISO floating around the internet is just a mock-up, it mimics what the real Chinese version is supposed to be, minus all the Chinese Government crap that might get injected.

Interesting. I suspect that MS will have to go down the road of creating new SKUs due to AI, Advertising, forced online user accounts, European compliance etc etc.

 

[Caring1]

Has anyone seen the leak on Windows 11 "Enterprise G"? While the ISO floating around the internet is just a mock-up, it mimics what the real Chinese version is supposed to be, minus all the Chinese Government crap that might get injected.

The Chinese have had their own versions specifically made for their market for years, minus all the American Government crap that WAS injected.

 

[stimpy88]

The Chinese have had their own versions specifically made for their market for years, minus all the American Government crap that WAS injected.

And that spyware was no doubt replaced with the Chinese version, and new server addresses to send the data to.

 

[Caring1]

And that spyware was no doubt replaced with the Chinese version, and new server addresses to send the data to.

Most likely, but at least their version is only for their own domestic market, not global like the rest.

 

[lexluthermiester]

the American Government crap that WAS injected.

That is a bit of a myth. The retail and OEM versions of Windows have no trojan packages installed on the sly. The Chinese version certainly do. It's not illegal in China.

 

[Yraggul666]

What I mean by that is that I know quite a number of people who hang out on a different site that are absolute nutjobs when it comes to privacy. They're the kind of people who claim they don't own a smart phone, use a VPN for everything, don't have a bank account or credit card, pay everything with cash, hide their faces while in stores, don't use store loyalty cards even if they'd save money, etc. The only thing that they haven't done is find a cave out in the woods to live in like a hermit. True nutjobs if I ever saw them.

I only want to address the "don't use store loyalty cards even if they'd save money" part of your comment.
There's no saving money, there's nothing free and there's no discount when buying any kind of product or in any loyalty card IN ANY COMMERCIAL SETTING/CONTEXT, be it pharmacy, gas station, perfume shop or anything in between.
I dare say there's nothing free in life, period, but that's another long and complicated discussion.
They pay for your data with that so called discount, loyalty card, etc. That's the price you sell your name, SSN/CNP/etc, address, phone number for. Those 5-10-20$/E you "save" are the price for your data. Enjoy your "discount".
A lot of people need to learn to accept and live with this: NOTHING IS FREE, ESPECIALLY IN ANY COMMERCIAL SETTING/CONTEXT.