AMD Ryzen 9 9900X Benchmarked in Geekbench 6, Beats Intel's Best in Single-Core Score

[FoulOnWhite]

Just in time for winter

Typical AMD comment, getting boring now yawn, try something new

 

[fevgatos]

Typical AMD comment, getting boring now yawn, try something new

To be fair they are using the same arguments pretty much Intel fans were using back in 2017. "you can't compare the 7700k to the r7 1700 because 4 vs 8 cores". Like who the hell cares, lol. Like sure, it is true that Intel is only faster and more efficient in most segments BECAUSE they have more cores at every price point, but why are amd fans using that as a negative thing I can't understand. Suddenly it's a bad thing having more cores, like I don't get it. What the hell?

We are at a point right now that the brand new shining R7 9700x will not just be losing to last years 14700, or the 2 generations old 13700k, but I'm not even sure it will confidently beat the 12700k from 2021 in MT. What the hell is this?

 

[stimpy88]

We are at a point right now that the brand new shining R7 9700x will not just be losing to last years 14700, or the 2 generations old 13700k, but I'm not even sure it will confidently beat the 12700k from 2021 in MT. What the hell is this?

I'm sitting in the middle of this brand war. I take the side of who has the best product. I'm not brand loyal either. I currently have a 5950x and I'm looking to upgrade next year.

But you are correct, if this chip does not beat a 3-year-old CPU, then it's a failure. I'm very interested in how Zen 5 will compete against Intel's upcoming offerings a little later this year, as that's the fair fight, not looking backwards, but it will be disappointing if AMD lose against existing products. We also have to see how removing HT will affect performance. HT is worth up to +-30% or so, and all I have heard from Intel is something about a 20% IPC improvement, and it is very unlikely that clockspeeds will go up. So, where the other 10% is going to come from is unknown.

I'm looking forward to the independent benchmarks, I think it's going to be a good year for CPU's, depending on price.

 

[Ryrynz]

Intel missed the boat with e-DRAM tbh. Waiting for Panther Lake for Intel to bring the beans until then I expect further inroads from AMD with the gaming community with their X3D design. AMD might have the slight edge until next year, Intel caught sleeping.

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

I'm sitting in the middle of this brand war. I take the side of who has the best product. I'm not brand loyal either. I currently have a 5950x and I'm looking to upgrade next year.

But you are correct, if this chip does not beat a 3-year-old CPU, then it's a failure. I'm very interested in how Zen 5 will compete against Intel's upcoming offerings a little later this year, as that's the fair fight, not looking backwards, but it will be disappointing if AMD lose against existing products. We also have to see how removing HT will affect performance. HT is worth up to +-30% or so, and all I have heard from Intel is something about a 20% IPC improvement, and it is very unlikely that clockspeeds will go up. So, where the other 10% is going to come from is unknown.

I'm looking forward to the independent benchmarks, I think it's going to be a good year for CPU's, depending on price.

This chip beats a 3 year old cpu in the most relevant metric for CONSUMER cpus, single core performance.
Small difference in Cinebench or the geekbench MT numbers are meaningless - expecially the former, as it's not even affected by memory performance that is also quite important ie access times for games and music production and bandwith for graphical / video stuff.

 

[fevgatos]

This chip beats a 3 year old cpu in the most relevant metric for CONSUMER cpus, single core performance.
Small difference in Cinebench or the geekbench MT numbers are meaningless - expecially the former, as it's not even affected by memory performance that is also quite important ie access times for games and music production and bandwith for graphical / video stuff.

If ST performance is the most relevant metric for CONSUMER cpus, doesn't that mean that Intel has been dominating the past 3 years, from 2021 onwards? They have the ST lead the whole time, right?

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Benchmarks - Geekbench

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Benchmarks - Geekbench

Intel Core i5-13500 Benchmarks - Geekbench

Intel Core i5-13600K Benchmarks - Geekbench

the cheapest AMD 6 core has better ST than the 100 euros more intel one

takes 150 euros difference for intel to beat the 7600 non X: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i5-14600k

yes, AMD is dominating the consumer market for people that actually have a choiche and build their own machine

in my country they have 8 out of the10 best selling CPUs on amazon for that reason

 

[dgianstefani]

AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Benchmarks - Geekbench

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Benchmarks - Geekbench

Intel Core i5-13500 Benchmarks - Geekbench

Intel Core i5-13600K Benchmarks - Geekbench

the cheapest AMD 6 core has better ST than the 100 euros more intel one

yes, AMD is dominating the consumer market for people that actually have a choiche and build their own machine

in my country they have 8 out of the10 best selling CPUs on amazon for that reason

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

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what part of " for people that actually have a choiche and build their own machine " you don't understand?

You know, most people don't do that. But yeah, arguing with intel fans gets this kind of nonsense.

 

[fevgatos]

AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Benchmarks - Geekbench

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Benchmarks - Geekbench

Intel Core i5-13500 Benchmarks - Geekbench

Intel Core i5-13600K Benchmarks - Geekbench

the cheapest AMD 6 core has better ST than the 100 euros more intel one

takes 150 euros difference for intel to beat the 7600 non X: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i5-14600k

yes, AMD is dominating the consumer market for people that actually have a choiche and build their own machine

in my country they have 8 out of the10 best selling CPUs on amazon for that reason

Bud please, stop. Geekbench 6 is a joke but, even then... Intel is clearly ahead in the ST portion of geekbench. So according to your own metrics, Intel has been dominating the last few years. Here are the numbers. I don't expect you to admit but whatever

For Intel

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For AMD

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The fastest AMD chip gets 9th place....

Let's now use techpowerup's ST numbers

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Still 7th place...

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

Realize you are commenting on an article based on geekbench number. And while you don't think it's a valid benchmark, you say that a margin of error advantage for the super expansive intel cpus on that same test is "domination". Yeah, special edition customers for special edition cpus.

I compare consumer cpus at similar value, well actually AMD that cost 50% less beat intel ones there. That's again why people that can actually read numbers and connect them in a meaningful way choose AMD.

 

[fevgatos]

Realize you are commenting on an article based on geekbench number. And while you don't think it's a valid benchmark, you say that a margin of error advantage for the super expansive intel cpus on that same test is "domination". Yeah, special edition customers for special edition cpus.

I compare consumer cpus at similar value, well actually AMD that cost 50% less beat intel ones there. That's again why people that can actually read numbers and connect them in a meaningful way choose AMD.

Yeah, right. There is only one KS chip in that list. The other 7 cpus that beat AMD's best are not KS chips. The super expensive (lol) 14700kf costs 410€ and handily beats the 7950x, amd's fastest, that costs 550.

I guess that's why Intel has 70% of the desktop market.

AMD's best selling chip is the 7800x 3d, which is literally at the bottom of the list in ST performance. So your whole argument makes 0 sense. If ST was important then the 7800x 3d wouldn't be selling at all.

 

[ARF]

Q4 intel will crush that score once again...

What about the measly multi-threaded performance, that can't even reach the old intel?

AMD Ryzen 9 9900X tops Geekbench single-core ranking, crosses 5.65 GHz clock - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 9 9900X tops Geekbench single-core ranking It looks like samples are finally at the hands of the reviewers. The 12-core Ryzen 9 9900X is the upcoming “Granite Ridge” processor, featuring 12 Zen5 cores. This isn’t the top SKU in the new lineup, as AMD is also preparing a 16-core...

videocardz.com

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

Yeah, right. There is only one KS chip in that list. The other 7 cpus that beat AMD's best are not KS chips. The super expensive (lol) 14700kf costs 410€ and handily beats the 7950x, amd's fastest, that costs 550.

I guess that's why Intel has 70% of the desktop market.

AMD's best selling chip is the 7800x 3d, which is literally at the bottom of the list in ST performance. So your whole argument makes 0 sense. If ST was important then the 7800x 3d wouldn't be selling at all.

The top scores being 0,5% off each other matters a lot less when the mainstream parts AMD has more than 10% advantage while using half the cores.

The market is made mostly by people that do not choose their parts - heck, they don't even choose the machine, the IT in their company does.

Yes, 7800x3d has incredible advantage in the mosti important metric for DIY market, gaming performance that doesn't need memory tuning. That is why the incredible intel cpus are not there.

 

[ARF]

The market is made mostly by people that do not choose their parts - heck, they don't even choose the machine, the IT in their company does.

These are companies' machines, they do not belong privately to the employees

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

What about the measly multi-threaded performance, that can't even reach the old intel?

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AMD Ryzen 9 9900X tops Geekbench single-core ranking, crosses 5.65 GHz clock - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 9 9900X tops Geekbench single-core ranking It looks like samples are finally at the hands of the reviewers. The 12-core Ryzen 9 9900X is the upcoming “Granite Ridge” processor, featuring 12 Zen5 cores. This isn’t the top SKU in the new lineup, as AMD is also preparing a 16-core...

videocardz.com

About 5% better multicore when single is more than 10% behind? That's why no one cares, i'd take the single threaded lead anyday and so should 99% of customers. Some will still be under the impression that they need the cores, then when applications start to actualy make use of all of them find out their intel cpus are unstable. That's nice.

These are companies' machines, they do not belong privately to the employees

Does that mean they disappear from hardware surveys and are not on the market? What is the point of your comment? Where di imply they own their machines?

 

[ARF]

About 5% better multicore when single is more than 10% behind? That's why no one cares, i'd take the single threaded lead anyday and so should 99% of customers. Some will still be under the impression that they need the cores, then when applications start to actualy make use of all of them find out their intel cpus are unstable. That's nice.

Multi-core performance is important, single-core is not, that's why you get hybrid architectures with slow, atom-like cores.
The performance here is so poor, another skip generation.

 

[fevgatos]

The top scores being 0,5% off each other matters a lot less when the mainstream parts AMD has more than 10% advantage while using half the cores.

The market is made mostly by people that do not choose their parts - heck, they don't even choose the machine, the IT in their company does.

Yes, 7800x3d has incredible advantage in the mosti important metric for DIY market, gaming performance that doesn't need memory tuning. That is why the incredible intel cpus are not there.

2 posts ago you said the most important metric for consumers was ST. Now you are saying it's gaming performance....make up your mind bud.

 

[Vya Domus]

barely beating a 2 year old architecture will never be impressive

It's funny how when Intel is doing nothing AMD is still the company that gets berated for not doing more. You'd think after that whole decade of quad cores, the undying 14nm and skylake rehashed a million times they would have learned their lesson but apparently not.

AMD is still doing a whole lot more than Intel ever did even though they really don't have to, they could probably keep the 7800X3D for another 2 years or so with nothing else new and it would still be a top seller. I am impressed they're not sitting on their asses and are still actively developing new CPUs.

 

[maximumterror]

14900KS has 24 cores.

efficiency core is Atom core. Atom core is half of Pentium core. 2 efficiency cores are like one normal core. 16 e cores are 8 normal ones. i guess

 

[atomsymbol]

...., single thread performance is becoming more and more inconsequential, it's just a metric these companies keep clinging on for marketing purposes like clock speed used to be.

Just a note: The most popular programming language according to Tiobe index, Python, is mostly single-threaded. Single-thread performance is inconsequential only in a world where most programming languages are concurrent programming languages.

 

[basco]

i get the best for my needs(could be st or mt performance) and my low money can get me. nuff said

 

[notanin]

Cool to see progress here. Also terrific they've caught up with Intel here. Though would save breath discussing Geekbench test as it is of little importance

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

Uh huh..

Zen 5 performs that way thanks to the beta testers for Zen 4..now, Zen 5 buyers, you beta test for Zen 6..

 

[Vya Domus]

The most popular programming language according to Tiobe index, Python, is mostly single-threaded.

I don't know what "mostly single threaded" is supposed to mean, python like virtually all languages has support for threading.