• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

The B650E Aorus Stealth Ice is Gigabyte's First Motherboard for AMD CPUs with its Connectors on the Back

Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
7,798 (3.89/day)
System Name Bragging Rights
Processor Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz
Motherboard It has no markings but it's green
Cooling No, it's a 2.2W processor
Memory 2GB DDR3L-1333
Video Card(s) Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz)
Storage 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3
Display(s) 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz
Case Veddha T2
Audio Device(s) Apparently, yes
Power Supply Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger
Mouse MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though....
Software W10 21H1, barely
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
Really? Only one USB-C?
I see at least 3 dedicated USB-C ports on this board (one rear-panel which is a nearly useless location for USB-C) and one internal header that supports two more ports. You can also get USB-C adapters for 3.2G2 ports if you only need 10Gbps.

The point is, you won't find many USB-C ports on the rear panel because USB-C devices are almost exclusively portable devices that would need a case connector on the front. A dual-port header is included on just about any modern motherboard and if your case manufacturer is being a d*** by not including the relevant ports, blame your case manufacturer, not the motherboard vendor or AMD. If you really need more USB-C ports, you can adapt the USB 3.2G2 19-pin header for 10Gbps, and even the 3.2G1 9-pin headers if you just need basic connectivity for an input peripheral or charging. Adapters are on Amazon and Ebay globally for very low prices and you can get them for mere cents from Aliexpress if you have two weeks of patience.
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
16,886 (2.34/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
Ugh, here we go, a brilliant idea in terms of functionality being ruined in the name of aesthetics. GIVE ME MY GOD DAMN PCIE SLOTS YOU MORONS AT GIGABYTE. And why are we still keeping the M.2 slots on the top surface, as opposed to putting them with all the other connectors? For that matter, why isn't the chipset on the bottom surface too? Then we can put that big stupid non-functional heatsink there so that it doesn't get in the way of the PCIe slots.
You never disappoint :roll:
The problem with "top" and "bottom" is that they are ambiguous on their own. For example, does "top" refer to the side of the board with the CPU socket when the board is sitting horizontally, or to the bit with the EPS12V connector when the board is vertical? Same problem with "front" and "back"/"rear".

I would qualify those words with "surface" to remove that ambiguity, i.e. "top surface" and "bottom surface". "Underside" works but it doesn't really have a common complementary antonym; "overside" and "topside" are correct but not often heard. Yes, English is a dumb language.
How about obverse and reverse?
Proprietary BS seems to be this year's bright idea from the intellectually bankrupt hardware vendors, because that's a lot easier then actually innovating. Probably "AI" told them to do it... pity it didn't tell them that the only reason the PC ecosystem works is because it's non-proprietary.
I'm sure you can order spares from Gigabyte.
This is what the antenna looks like.
1720698864263.png
1720698876885.png


Asus variant
1720699240779.png

1720699252511.png
1720699271854.png


Front and back, its not the bottom when most people use it vertically
The back is still where the I/O shield is, or what do you call that?

Dunno, but I feel like 3 usb-C on the I/O should be minimum these days, header aside.
The issue is that we end up with "compromised" USB-C ports, no matter what.
You either get data and nothing else, or data and DP Alt Mode. USB4/Thunderbolt is still really rare, but I guess we should see more of that on next gen boards.
However, I think only Asus offers a handful of boards than can do 65 W USB PD and then only via the port on the case.
Also, keep in mind that the cable used to connect the to the case USB-C port, removes that much distance for any cables connected to the case connector.
In all fairness, we'll never see all ports supporting full USB PD, but you'd hope for at least one, so you don't need a separate charger for your phone.

Uhhhh...... NO.

Yeah - I get it.
Some cases may be setup to allow this but at the same time, now you'll have the privilege of hunting trouble on both sides of the board at times.
Someone's "Better Idea" which, to me is a "Bastardization" of the core concept just to be different can turn out to be a nightmare too.

Being different in itself is easy to do..... I mean it works but like it is with automotive designs, the engineers behind it only need to worry about whether it actually works or not - Actually working with it (Fixing it) is someone else's headache.

If you like what you see, by all means do go for it but personally I'm not gonna touch one of these.
At least everyone decided to more or less copy Asus design, minus the proprietary graphics card power connector.
So we won't be getting half a dozen different solutions that have ultra limited case compatibility.

I see at least 3 dedicated USB-C ports on this board (one rear-panel which is a nearly useless location for USB-C) and one internal header that supports two more ports. You can also get USB-C adapters for 3.2G2 ports if you only need 10Gbps.
The header only supports one USB Type-C port, due to the lack of directionality of USB-C.
The point is, you won't find many USB-C ports on the rear panel because USB-C devices are almost exclusively portable devices that would need a case connector on the front. A dual-port header is included on just about any modern motherboard and if your case manufacturer is being a d*** by not including the relevant ports, blame your case manufacturer, not the motherboard vendor or AMD. If you really need more USB-C ports, you can adapt the USB 3.2G2 19-pin header for 10Gbps, and even the 3.2G1 9-pin headers if you just need basic connectivity for an input peripheral or charging. Adapters are on Amazon and Ebay globally for very low prices and you can get them for mere cents from Aliexpress if you have two weeks of patience.
ASRock has a suitable board coming.
1720700057980.png

 

Attachments

  • 1720699229290.png
    1720699229290.png
    1.3 MB · Views: 17
Last edited:

iO

Joined
Jul 18, 2012
Messages
528 (0.12/day)
Location
Germany
Processor R7 5700x
Motherboard MSI B450i Gaming
Cooling Accelero Mono CPU Edition
Memory 16 GB VLP
Video Card(s) AMD RX 6700 XT
Storage P34A80 512GB
Display(s) LG 27UM67 UHD
Case none
Power Supply SS G-650
1000~2.png

Always thought this was most common nomenclature.

And this really should have been a mATX design with that much wasted PCB space.
 
Joined
May 18, 2009
Messages
2,870 (0.52/day)
Location
MN
System Name Personal / HTPC
Processor Ryzen 5900x / Ryzen 5600X3D
Motherboard Asrock x570 Phantom Gaming 4 /ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming
Cooling Corsair H100i / bequiet! Pure Rock Slim 2
Memory 32GB DDR4 3200 / 16GB DDR4 3200
Video Card(s) EVGA XC3 Ultra RTX 3080Ti / EVGA RTX 3060 XC
Storage 500GB Pro 970, 250 GB SSD, 1TB & 500GB Western Digital / lots
Display(s) Dell - S3220DGF & S3222DGM 32"
Case CoolerMaster HAF XB Evo / CM HAF XB Evo
Audio Device(s) Logitech G35 headset
Power Supply 850W SeaSonic X Series / 750W SeaSonic X Series
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Black Microsoft Natural Elite Keyboard
Software Windows 10 Pro 64 / Windows 10 Pro 64
What? No P/S2? They expect me to get a P/S2 to USB adapter?

And this really should have been a mATX design with that much wasted PCB space.

I was thinking the same thing. If no extra PCI slots are on the board it just looks like a large waste of space.
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
7,798 (3.89/day)
System Name Bragging Rights
Processor Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz
Motherboard It has no markings but it's green
Cooling No, it's a 2.2W processor
Memory 2GB DDR3L-1333
Video Card(s) Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz)
Storage 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3
Display(s) 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz
Case Veddha T2
Audio Device(s) Apparently, yes
Power Supply Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger
Mouse MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though....
Software W10 21H1, barely
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
Let me first say I love both the aesthetic and functional design of this motherboard and I hope this trend continues.

My only concern is is imagine a first time PC builder with a limited budget buying this used motherboard 10+ years from now and buying the cheapest case they can find that isn't compatible with cable routing.... yikes
Compatibility is the biggest concern for this form factor.

The dominant factor in all the form factors we've seen succeed in the last 30 years has been ubiquity at mainstream price points.

If global availability and pricing of these boards and their associated cases fails to stay close to the availability and pricing of the dominant ATX regular standard, they're dead. Maybe not right now, but they'll just slowly die off like all the other standards we've had that tried to improve things but needed different cases and boards. Look at where Flex-ATX, Nano-ITX, STX, BTX variants, DTX variants, and EVGA's failed HPTX to name just a few that were killed by poor availability, pricing, or both.
 
Joined
Feb 13, 2014
Messages
496 (0.13/day)
Location
Cyprus
Processor 13700KF - 5.7GHZ
Motherboard Z690 UNIFY-X
Cooling ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 (NF-A12x25)
Memory 2x16 G.SKILL M-DIE (7200-34-44-44-28)
Video Card(s) XFX MERC 7900XT
Storage 1TB KINGSTON KC3000
Display(s) FI32Q
Case LIAN LI O11 DYNAMIC EVO
Audio Device(s) HD599
Power Supply RMX1000
Mouse PULSAR XLITE V2 MINI (RETRO)
Keyboard KEYCHRON V3 (DUROCK T1 + MT3 GODSPEED R2)
Software Windows 11
Benchmark Scores Superposition 4k optimized - 20652
Ngl, bottom got me as well, i was skeptical how they managed to put everything down there, turns out you mean on the Backside
 
Joined
Feb 23, 2019
Messages
5,890 (2.95/day)
Location
Poland
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
Cooling Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
Memory 2x16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 Rev E @ 3800 CL16
Video Card(s) RTX3080 Ti FE
Storage SX8200 Pro 1 TB, Plextor M6Pro 256 GB, WD Blue 2TB
Display(s) LG 34GN850P-B
Case SilverStone Primera PM01 RGB
Audio Device(s) SoundBlaster G6 | Fidelio X2 | Sennheiser 6XX
Power Supply SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse Endgame Gear XM1R
Keyboard Wooting Two HE
What? No P/S2? They expect me to get a P/S2 to USB adapter?
My X570 board from 2018 didn't have it, why should a board from 2024 have them? What's next, where's the serial port?

That M2 heatsink will cause some clearance issues. And yeah, it's an ATX board with a single PCI-E slot.
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
16,886 (2.34/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
View attachment 354777
Always thought this was most common nomenclature.

And this really should have been a mATX design with that much wasted PCB space.
Fine, let's go with your naming convention, article updated.

And yes, this could've been a mATX board, but are there any suitable cases for those?

My X570 board from 2018 didn't have it, why should a board from 2024 have them? What's next, where's the serial port?
MSI got your back/rear/bottom.

1720701327519.png

That M2 heatsink will cause some clearance issues. And yeah, it's an ATX board with a single PCI-E slot.
Actually, no. I have one like that on my board and there are surprisingly no issue with clearance.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Feb 23, 2019
Messages
5,890 (2.95/day)
Location
Poland
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
Cooling Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
Memory 2x16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 Rev E @ 3800 CL16
Video Card(s) RTX3080 Ti FE
Storage SX8200 Pro 1 TB, Plextor M6Pro 256 GB, WD Blue 2TB
Display(s) LG 34GN850P-B
Case SilverStone Primera PM01 RGB
Audio Device(s) SoundBlaster G6 | Fidelio X2 | Sennheiser 6XX
Power Supply SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse Endgame Gear XM1R
Keyboard Wooting Two HE
Joined
Jan 5, 2006
Messages
18,502 (2.72/day)
System Name AlderLake
Processor Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans
Memory 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2
Display(s) 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p
Case Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window
Audio Device(s) Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless
Keyboard RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless
Software Windows 11
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
16,886 (2.34/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
7,798 (3.89/day)
System Name Bragging Rights
Processor Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz
Motherboard It has no markings but it's green
Cooling No, it's a 2.2W processor
Memory 2GB DDR3L-1333
Video Card(s) Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz)
Storage 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3
Display(s) 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz
Case Veddha T2
Audio Device(s) Apparently, yes
Power Supply Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger
Mouse MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though....
Software W10 21H1, barely
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
Always thought this was most common nomenclature.
Not just the most common, but the most correct - since the original ATX standard is defined as a vertical tower with (now outdated) top-mounted PSU and clearly identifies parts of an ATX PC using the terms you've shown. An ATX board has a rear I/O panel, front panel headers, socket retention backplates.

There's nothing in the standard that describes the topside of the PCB, so there's some ambiguity there since front is the opposite of both rear and back, with the spec already explicitly defining front and rear. I guess as a result, the confusion will continue! Until the first mITX board appeared that jammed an M.2 slot on the back of the motherboard, there was no need to distinguish between the front and back of a motherboard, but I guess when using terms front and back people just need to clarify if they're referring to the motherboard as a single item, or the PC as a whole.
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
41,025 (6.56/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2Ă—BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
Silly arrangement...
 
Joined
Feb 23, 2019
Messages
5,890 (2.95/day)
Location
Poland
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
Cooling Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
Memory 2x16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 Rev E @ 3800 CL16
Video Card(s) RTX3080 Ti FE
Storage SX8200 Pro 1 TB, Plextor M6Pro 256 GB, WD Blue 2TB
Display(s) LG 34GN850P-B
Case SilverStone Primera PM01 RGB
Audio Device(s) SoundBlaster G6 | Fidelio X2 | Sennheiser 6XX
Power Supply SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse Endgame Gear XM1R
Keyboard Wooting Two HE
I don't see where that says it's for motherboards with the connectors on the back.


Fixed...
1720701830111.png


In general it looks like the keep out zones for the cutouts are located near the mounting points.
 

Attachments

  • 1720701799130.png
    1720701799130.png
    507.7 KB · Views: 14
Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
7,798 (3.89/day)
System Name Bragging Rights
Processor Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz
Motherboard It has no markings but it's green
Cooling No, it's a 2.2W processor
Memory 2GB DDR3L-1333
Video Card(s) Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz)
Storage 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3
Display(s) 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz
Case Veddha T2
Audio Device(s) Apparently, yes
Power Supply Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger
Mouse MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though....
Software W10 21H1, barely
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
Asus variant
Ah, that's not as common, but at least it's not a proprietary standard. I've used those before on DIY electronics and you can buy them from most hardware stores, as well as adapters to the more common variant we think of as "standard" antenna connectors which is just a regular threaded two-wire co-ax cable available in loads of gauges and used in many industries and sectors other than PCs.
ASRock has a suitable board coming
You can always count on ASRock to make the weird stuff nobody else does ;)
  • Mining board with 16 PCIe x1 slots?
  • NAS board with 18 SATA ports?
  • Premium boards with 23 USB on them?
I'm sure that's only the tip of the iceberg for ASRock...!
 

iO

Joined
Jul 18, 2012
Messages
528 (0.12/day)
Location
Germany
Processor R7 5700x
Motherboard MSI B450i Gaming
Cooling Accelero Mono CPU Edition
Memory 16 GB VLP
Video Card(s) AMD RX 6700 XT
Storage P34A80 512GB
Display(s) LG 27UM67 UHD
Case none
Power Supply SS G-650

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
41,025 (6.56/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2Ă—BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
View attachment 354777
Always thought this was most common nomenclature.

And this really should have been a mATX design with that much wasted PCB space.
Here let's add forward and aft, upper and lower, front and back, top and bottom. Diagonal. Longitudinal, Lateral, Azimuth Axis.

Uhhhh...... NO.

Yeah - I get it.
Some cases may be setup to allow this but at the same time, now you'll have the privilege of hunting trouble on both sides of the board at times.
Someone's "Better Idea" which, to me is a "Bastardization" of the core concept just to be different can turn out to be a nightmare too.

Being different in itself is easy to do..... I mean it works but like it is with automotive designs, the engineers behind it only need to worry about whether it actually works or not - Actually working with it (Fixing it) is someone else's headache.

If you like what you see, by all means do go for it but personally I'm not gonna touch one of these.
Neither Will I, yafsdfg
 
Last edited:
Joined
Apr 24, 2008
Messages
1,969 (0.33/day)
Processor RyZen R9 3950X
Motherboard ASRock X570 Taichi
Cooling Coolermaster Master Liquid ML240L RGB
Memory 64GB DDR4 3200 (4x16GB)
Video Card(s) RTX 3050
Storage Samsung 2TB SSD
Display(s) Asus VE276Q, VE278Q and VK278Q triple 27” 1920x1080
Case Zulman MS800
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply Seasonic 650W
VR HMD Oculus Rift, Oculus Quest V1, Oculus Quest 2
Software Windows 11 64bit
I kind of like it. It has a very clean look.

It does feel very proprietary though. if they could manage connections on both sides of the board (I don't see how) that would allow for more mounting options.

Not loving that it only has one PCIe slot though.
 
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
13,727 (3.83/day)
Location
Sunshine Coast
System Name Lenovo ThinkCentre
Processor AMD 5650GE
Motherboard Lenovo
Memory 32 GB DDR4
Display(s) AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Mouse Lenovo
Keyboard Lenovo
Software W11 Pro 64 bit
So you really expect me to use overside, backside and underside from now on?
Front and rear will do.

ASRock has a suitable board coming.
View attachment 354776
Where do we plug in our wired mice, webcam, speakers etc?
 
Last edited:

Leiesoldat

lazy gamer & woodworker
Supporter
Joined
Jun 29, 2021
Messages
116 (0.10/day)
System Name Arda
Processor AMD Ryzen 5800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X570-I AORUS Pro WiFi
Cooling Custom Loop - Aquacomputer, Optimus, EK, Bykski
Memory GSkill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2x16) DDR4-3200
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Gaming OC RX 6800XT
Storage SK Hynix P41 1TB
Display(s) VIOTEK 3440 x 1440 144 Hz Curved
Case XTIA Proto-XL
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modius + Schiit Jotunheim
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 850W Titanium
Mouse Xtrfy MZ1 Zy's Rail Wireless
Keyboard Rainkeebs Yasui - Custom 40% Ortholinear
Software Windows 11 Pro
I really like this clean aesthetic. My only small gripe is the speed of the USB-C slot on the rear I/O. I use a CalDigit Element hub with a single TB-4 uplink that I trade off between my work computer and desktop that has all my peripherals routed through. I would like to see manufacturers increase that speed up to USB4/TB4 at the minimum.
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
16,886 (2.34/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
Ah, that's not as common, but at least it's not a proprietary standard. I've used those before on DIY electronics and you can buy them from most hardware stores, as well as adapters to the more common variant we think of as "standard" antenna connectors which is just a regular threaded two-wire co-ax cable available in loads of gauges and used in many industries and sectors other than PCs.
With plastic connectors and push-in clips around the antennas connectors? I have never seen those before.
You can always count on ASRock to make the weird stuff nobody else does ;)
  • Mining board with 16 PCIe x1 slots?
  • NAS board with 18 SATA ports?
  • Premium boards with 23 USB on them?
I'm sure that's only the tip of the iceberg for ASRock...!
Meh, it's all lame now compared to the dual CPU slot/socket motherboards that they used to be famous for.

Yes, from a quick look, a bunch support it.

For example the Adata case from yesterday, InWin D5, Corsair 3500X or Asus GT302 all have the appropiate cutouts.
I guess I haven't been paying attention, as I'm not into fish tanks.
I guess the motherboard plate is going to get weaker and weaker, until it bends when you screw in the motherboard.
ThermalTake is guaranteed to do a super cheap case that will bend when you install the board.

Where do we plug in our wired mice, webcam, speakers etc?
Welcome to the future. I'm sure a lot of Apple users are feeling your pain.

1720705175246.png


I really like this clean aesthetic. My only small gripe is the speed of the USB-C slot on the rear I/O. I use a CalDigit Element hub with a single TB-4 uplink that I trade off between my work computer and desktop that has all my peripherals routed through. I would like to see manufacturers increase that speed up to USB4/TB4 at the minimum.
It's not the physical port itself that's the issue, as it can do 40 Gbps, but that requires certain APUs and that limits your PCIe and M.2 interfaces instead...

Topside instead of overside maybe?
But it's not at the top...

1720705291526.png
 
Last edited:
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
5,562 (0.78/day)
Location
Ikenai borderline!
System Name Firelance.
Processor Threadripper 3960X
Motherboard ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming
Cooling IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12
Memory 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC
Storage 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data)
Display(s) 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz)
Case Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Professional x64
On further consideration I think this is actually pretty dumb. Gigabyte hasn't tried to do anything clever with the onboard connectors, they've literally just flipped them. But what they have here is a real opportunity to mimimise electrical trace lengthy and save a fuckton of money - which they haven't taken! This is better explained with a picture so here's some Paint work:

1720704959007.png


Now the power connectors are near the parts of the board that need the most power (I don't know precisely where those are so I put the 24-pin between the CPU and PCIe slots; sue me).
Now the chipset connectors are (mostly) on the opposite side of the chipset.

Instead of cutting half-a-dozen extra, irregularly-shaped holes in a chassis motherboard tray, you only need 2 or 3 larger ones (so chassis machining is cheaper and faster). And of course cables don't need to be as long, nor is routing them so much of a pain. But most importantly, trace lengths are far shorter, which also means you don't need traces that are as thick, so as a board manufacturer you basically just win. You can then put the money saved from that into even more unnecessary "thermal armour" on the bottom surface!
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
16,886 (2.34/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
On further consideration I think this is actually pretty dumb. Gigabyte hasn't tried to do anything clever with the onboard connectors, they've literally just flipped them.
First you complain about it not being a standard and then you complain about Gigabyte not doing anything clever...
FYI, as I already mentioned, everyone is following Asus layout more or less here, so moving the connectors, means that there would no longer be a standard.
If you want to be angry at someone for not doing enough from the start, talk to Asus, as they started this mess.

But what they have here is a real opportunity to mimimise electrical trace lengthy and save a fuckton of money - which they haven't taken! This is better explained with a picture so here's some Paint work:

View attachment 354785

Now the power connectors are near the parts of the board that need the most power (I don't know what those are so I took a guess, sue me).
Now the chipset connectors are (mostly) on the opposite side of the chipset.
Are you a PCB layout engineer now? Trust me, that layout wouldn't work. You'd get a metric ton of crosstalk and interference and the boards wouldn't pass EMI testing. I have been involved in enough board design projects to know that what you're proposing above isn't feasible.
Instead of cutting half-a-dozen extra, irregularly-shaped holes in the motherboard tray, you only need 2 or 3 larger ones (so chassis machining is cheaper and faster). And of course cables don't need to be as long, nor is routing them so much of a pain. But most importantly, trace lengths are far shorter, which also means you don't need traces that are as thick, so as a manufacturer you basically just win. You can then put the money saved from that into even more unnecessary "thermal armour" on the bottom surface!
I fully agree that this should've been in a more organised manner, but as the four big motherboard makers refuse to sit down in the same room to discuss things like this, this is what we get. Intel is no longer running the show and mandate form factors, which is also why we're stuff with ATX, instead of having started over fresh with something that is a bit more thought out. However, if you think you can get these companies to meet up and agree on a common standard, the world would owe you a favour.
 
Joined
Apr 21, 2010
Messages
568 (0.11/day)
System Name Home PC
Processor Ryzen 5900X
Motherboard Asus Prime X370 Pro
Cooling Thermaltake Contac Silent 12
Memory 2x8gb F4-3200C16-8GVKB - 2x16gb F4-3200C16-16GVK
Video Card(s) XFX RX480 GTR
Storage Samsung SSD Evo 120GB -WD SN580 1TB - Toshiba 2TB HDWT720 - 1TB GIGABYTE GP-GSTFS31100TNTD
Display(s) Cooler Master GA271 and AoC 931wx (19in, 1680x1050)
Case Green Magnum Evo
Power Supply Green 650UK Plus
Mouse Green GM602-RGB ( copy of Aula F810 )
Keyboard Old 12 years FOCUS FK-8100
Top