No what you're talking about is OoO not just SMT ~ to disable all possible side channel attacks you'd have to go back to the stone ages!Because it is fundamentally broken. If you don't understand side-channels, it is hard to grasp.
No what you're talking about is OoO not just SMT ~ to disable all possible side channel attacks you'd have to go back to the stone ages!Because it is fundamentally broken. If you don't understand side-channels, it is hard to grasp.
System Name | Nebulon B |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2, 4 + 8 TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5" |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
As far as I know, PEG is short for PCI-Express Graphics. It's not an interface, but a GPU located on an interface. It's used in the BIOS when you're selecting whether to initialise dedicated or integrated graphics first when booting."PEG interface"
Is that an Intel term? I get what they're referring to, but I've never seen it used anywhere else and a quick Google search really only returns one site thwt acknowledges its existence....an Intel site.
Processor | Ryzen 5700x |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte X570S Aero G R1.1 BiosF5g |
Cooling | Noctua NH-C12P SE14 w/ NF-A15 HS-PWM Fan 1500rpm |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 2x32GB D.S. D.R. (CT2K32G4DFD832A) |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX 6800 - Asus Tuf |
Storage | Kingston KC3000 1TB & 2TB & 4TB Corsair MP600 Pro LPX |
Display(s) | LG 27UL550-W (27" 4k) |
Case | Be Quiet Pure Base 600 (no window) |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1220-VB |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W ATX Ver2.52 |
Mouse | Mionix Naos Pro |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe with browns |
Software | W10 22H2 Pro x64 |
System Name | Nebulon B |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2, 4 + 8 TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5" |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Unless there's something wrong with them - hence my theory (above).Wouldn't one want smaller, less power hungry cores for embedded products??
System Name | DLSS / YOLO-PC |
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Processor | i5-12400F / 10600KF |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B760M DS3H / Z490 Vision D |
Cooling | Laminar RM1 / Gammaxx 400 |
Memory | 32 GB DDR4-3200 / 16 GB DDR4-3333 |
Video Card(s) | RX 6700 XT / RX 480 8 GB |
Storage | A couple SSDs, m.2 NVMe included / 240 GB CX1 + 1 TB WD HDD |
Display(s) | Compit HA2704 / Viewsonic VX3276-MHD-2 |
Case | Matrexx 55 / Junkyard special |
Audio Device(s) | Want loud, use headphones. Want quiet, use satellites. |
Power Supply | Thermaltake 1000 W / FSP Epsilon 700 W / Corsair CX650M [backup] |
Mouse | Don't disturb, cheese eating in progress... |
Keyboard | Makes some noise. Probably onto something. |
VR HMD | I live in real reality and don't need a virtual one. |
Software | Windows 10 and 11 |
It's Intel, they do not allow common sense and basic logic on their territory.Wouldn't one want smaller, less power hungry cores for embedded products??
you might not have a space, heat or power problem in certain places but a particle problem.Wouldn't one want smaller, less power hungry cores for embedded products??
System Name | Fractal |
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Processor | Intel Core i5 13600K |
Motherboard | Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi |
Cooling | Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II 360 |
Memory | 16GBx2 G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 DDR5 6000 CL30-40-40-96 (F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K) |
Video Card(s) | PNY RTX A2000 6GB |
Storage | SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 34GK950F-B (34"/IPS/1440p/21:9/144Hz/FreeSync) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 Gunmetal Blackout w/ USB-C |
Audio Device(s) | Steelseries Arctis 7 Wireless/Klipsch Pro-Media 2.1BT |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 850w 80+ Titanium |
Mouse | Logitech G700S |
Keyboard | Corsair K68 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
PCI Express Graphics. They started using it when PCI Express came out to differentiate from PCI."PEG interface"
Is that an Intel term? I get what they're referring to, but I've never seen it used anywhere else and a quick Google search really only returns one site thwt acknowledges its existence....an Intel site.
System Name | Lightbringer |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 2700X |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X470-F Gaming |
Cooling | Enermax Liqmax Iii 360mm AIO |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32GB (8GBx4) 3200Mhz CL 14 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire RX 5700XT Nitro+ |
Storage | Hp EX950 2TB NVMe M.2, HP EX950 1TB NVMe M.2, Samsung 860 EVO 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 34BK95U-W 34" 5120 x 2160 |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic (White) |
Power Supply | BeQuiet Straight Power 11 850w Gold Rated PSU |
Mouse | Glorious Model O (Matte White) |
Keyboard | Royal Kludge RK71 |
Software | Windows 10 |
I'm aware of that, like I said in my original comment, my question was "does only Intel use that specific terminology of the 'PEG Interface'" because I've never seen another manufacturer use that specific term to refer to an x16 slotAs far as I know, PEG is short for PCI-Express Graphics. It's not an interface, but a GPU located on an interface. It's used in the BIOS when you're selecting whether to initialise dedicated or integrated graphics first when booting.
Did anyone read my original comment? Where I specifically said "I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO" ????? I KNOW that they're talking about the x16 PCIe slot where you would normally insert the videocard. My question is why is Intel referring to it with the specific term "PEG Interface" instead of just the normal nomenclature like "PCIe x16"? Is "PEG Interface" specifically an Intel term? Because I've never seen another manufacturer use that term when, for example, I'm looking at motherboard specs.PCI Express Graphics. They started using it when PCI Express came out to differentiate from PCI.
It's getting thrown around by marketing without a second thought these days. Even more confusing for the new guy when it comes to the BIOS option on a lot of boards when choosing PEG/PCIe/Auto for which GPU gets boot priority. (when PEG literally stands PCI Express and the very next setting is read as PCI...express.
System Name | "Icy Resurrection" |
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Processor | 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900KS Special Edition |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S upgraded with 2x NF-F12 iPPC-3000 fans and Honeywell PTM7950 TIM |
Memory | 32 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB F5-6800J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK @ 7600 MT/s 36-44-44-52-96 1.4V |
Video Card(s) | ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB GDDR6X White OC Edition |
Storage | 500 GB WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD + 4 TB WD Red Plus WD40EFPX HDD |
Display(s) | 55-inch LG G3 OLED |
Case | Pichau Mancer CV500 White Edition |
Power Supply | EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Microsoft Classic Intellimouse |
Keyboard | Galax Stealth STL-03 |
Software | Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2 |
Benchmark Scores | I pulled a Qiqi~ |
16 cores perchiplet? It's called Zen4c and Zen5c...AMD could have had one Zen4 chiplet and one Zen4c chiplet for a total of 24 cores...so why didn't AMD do that if you believe that path to be so "self-evident"? Why don't we have a R9 9975X with 8 Zen5 cores and 16 Zen5c cores for a total of 24 cores if that is the most logical path?
System Name | Old friend |
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Processor | 3550 Ivy Bridge x 39.0 Multiplier |
Memory | 2x8GB 2400 RipjawsX |
Video Card(s) | 1070 Gaming X |
Storage | BX100 500GB |
Display(s) | 27" QHD VA Curved @120Hz |
Power Supply | Platinum 650W |
Mouse | Light² 200 |
Keyboard | G610 Red |
Yep, that's semiconductor business for ya.Intel is finally copying what AMD has done for years. Sell defective chips, disable the bad part and call it a new product![]()
System Name | I don't name my systems. |
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Processor | i5-12600KF 'stock power limits/-115mV undervolt+contact frame' |
Motherboard | Asus Prime B660-PLUS D4 |
Cooling | ID-Cooling SE 224 XT ARGB V3 'CPU', 4x Be Quiet! Light Wings + 2x Arctic P12 black case fans. |
Memory | 4x8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200MHz |
Video Card(s) | Asus TuF V2 RTX 3060 Ti @1920 MHz Core/@950mV Undervolt |
Storage | 4 TB WD Red, 1 TB Silicon Power A55 Sata, 1 TB Kingston A2000 NVMe, 256 GB Adata Spectrix s40g NVMe |
Display(s) | 29" 2560x1080 75 Hz / LG 29WK600-W |
Case | Be Quiet! Pure Base 500 FX Black |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard + Hama uRage SoundZ 900+USB DAC |
Power Supply | Seasonic CORE GM 500W 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Canyon Puncher GM-20 |
Keyboard | SPC Gear GK630K Tournament 'Kailh Brown' |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
I don't have a single issue with E-cores with my 12600KF at stock under Win 10 nowadays and they aint exactly as weak as some ppl make them out to be. 'funny how its usually ppl who never had an experience with them in the first place..E-cores, more time wasted with cores that should be called PW-cores "Power Wasting" cores just like Intels trash hyperthreading.
Processor | Ryzen 9 9950X |
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Motherboard | X670 chipset |
Cooling | SPC Fera 5 |
Memory | 64 GiB |
Video Card(s) | RX 6700XT |
Storage | WD Black SN750, Seagate FireCuda 530, Samsung SSD 850 Pro, WD Blue HDD, Seagate IronWolf HDD |
Display(s) | Samsung (4K, FreeSync) |
Power Supply | EVGA 750 B5 |
Mouse | Eternico wireless mouse |
Keyboard | HyperX Alloy Origins Core Aqua with Corsair Onyx Black keycaps |
Software | Linux + KVM |
Processor | i5-6600K |
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Motherboard | Asus Z170A |
Cooling | some cheap Cooler Master Hyper 103 or similar |
Memory | 16GB DDR4-2400 |
Video Card(s) | IGP |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB |
Display(s) | 2x Oldell 24" 1920x1200 |
Case | Bitfenix Nova white windowless non-mesh |
Audio Device(s) | E-mu 1212m PCI |
Power Supply | Seasonic G-360 |
Mouse | Logitech Marble trackball, never had a mouse |
Keyboard | Key Tronic KT2000, no Win key because 1994 |
Software | Oldwin |
A decade and a half later, Intel still can't make a three-cored chip!Intel is finally copying what AMD has done for years. Sell defective chips, disable the bad part and call it a new product![]()
Nah, it's using dies that have issues and would otherwise be discarded.Silicon that is disabled, but is nevertheless present on the chip and is otherwise fully functional, is a waste of natural resources and a waste of chip manufacturing capacity.
Processor | i5-6600K |
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Motherboard | Asus Z170A |
Cooling | some cheap Cooler Master Hyper 103 or similar |
Memory | 16GB DDR4-2400 |
Video Card(s) | IGP |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB |
Display(s) | 2x Oldell 24" 1920x1200 |
Case | Bitfenix Nova white windowless non-mesh |
Audio Device(s) | E-mu 1212m PCI |
Power Supply | Seasonic G-360 |
Mouse | Logitech Marble trackball, never had a mouse |
Keyboard | Key Tronic KT2000, no Win key because 1994 |
Software | Oldwin |
Your KFC would have about 11.584 cores if Intel threw out the graphics part.They should just drop the E cores add 4 more P core's Drop the Igpu and bang finally full on P core monster. I would buy one of those.
Still the main reason why I have a core i9 9900 KFC pure 8 core no other BS.
For some consolation, Intel only half-killed the E cores. Their L3 slices remain active, that's why total L3 adds up to 36MB/33MB/24MB. Otherwise it would be 24MB/24MB/18MB, exactly like in LGA1700 Xeons.Silicon that is disabled, but is nevertheless present on the chip and is otherwise fully functional, is a waste of natural resources and a waste of chip manufacturing capacity.
System Name | RPC MK2.5 |
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Processor | Ryzen 5800x |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Aorus Pro V2 |
Cooling | Enermax ETX-T50RGB |
Memory | CL16 BL2K16G36C16U4RL 3600 1:1 micron e-die |
Video Card(s) | GIGABYTE RTX 3070 Ti GAMING OC |
Storage | ADATA SX8200PRO NVME 512GB, Intel 545s 500GBSSD, ADATA SU800 SSD, 3TB Spinner |
Display(s) | LG Ultra Gear 32 1440p 165hz Dell 1440p 75hz |
Case | Phanteks P300 /w 300A front panel conversion |
Audio Device(s) | onboard |
Power Supply | SeaSonic Focus+ Platinum 750W |
Mouse | Kone burst Pro |
Keyboard | EVGA Z15 |
Software | Windows 11 +startisallback |
System Name | Lenovo ThinkCentre |
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Processor | AMD 5650GE |
Motherboard | Lenovo |
Memory | 32 GB DDR4 |
Display(s) | AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz |
Mouse | Lenovo |
Keyboard | Lenovo |
Software | W11 Pro 64 bit |
To be fair to AMD they didn't sell broken chips as they "fixed" them prior to selling them, unlike Intel who most likely knew there was an issue and decided to sell them anyway to consumers they try to force onto new platforms every couple of years.Intel is finally copying what AMD has done for years. Sell defective chips, disable the bad part and call it a new product![]()
I'm aware of that, like I said in my original comment, my question was "does only Intel use that specific terminology of the 'PEG Interface'" because I've never seen another manufacturer use that specific term to refer to an x16 slot
Intel is finally copying what AMD has done for years. Sell defective chips, disable the bad part and call it a new product![]()
Indeed. You'd have to be literally insane to touch cRaptor Lake with a 10' pole at this stage, with Intel unable or unwilling to disclose the problem. It could actually be a manufacturing problem and there is no fix but a new stepping.I feel Intel is very insensitive to the issue surrounding their Raptor Lake CPUs now by introducing new SKUs. The CPUs are unstable, which means it is not functioning properly, which may potentially impact these new SKUs. Without addressing and resolving the existing issue, are they expecting people to buy these?
System Name | Personal Gaming Rig |
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Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI X670E Carbon |
Cooling | MO-RA 3 420 |
Memory | 32GB 6000MHz |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4090 ICHILL FROSTBITE ULTRA |
Storage | 4x 2TB Nvme |
Display(s) | Samsung G8 OLED |
Case | Silverstone FT04 |
It probably is fused/laser'ed off, it would be weird for Intel to do an entire new die just for this.Are these fused off silicon ? or the E-core spaces just empty ?
System Name | BarnacleMan |
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Processor | 14700KF |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B760 Aorus Elite Ax DDR5 |
Cooling | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 + P12 Max Fans |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury Beast 5600 cl36 |
Video Card(s) | Asus Tuf 4090 24GB |
Storage | 4TB sn850x, 2TB sn850x, 2TB Netac Nv7000 + 2TB p5 plus, 4TB MX500 * 2 = 18TB. Plus dvd burner. |
Display(s) | Dell 23.5" 1440P IPS panel |
Case | Lian Li LANCOOL II MESH Performance Mid-Tower |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z623 |
Power Supply | Gigabyte 850w |
Mouse | Some piece of shit from China |
Keyboard | Some piece of shit from China |
Software | Yes Please? |
Is that the case though?Silicon that is disabled, but is nevertheless present on the chip and is otherwise fully functional, is a waste of natural resources and a waste of chip manufacturing capacity.