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NVIDIA GeForce "Blackwell" Won't Arrive Before January 2025?

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It appears like 2024 will go down as the second consecutive year without any new GPU generation launch from either NVIDIA or AMD. Kopite7kimi, a reliable source with NVIDIA leaks, says that the GeForce RTX 50-series "Blackwell" generation won't see a debut before the 2025 International CES (January 2025). It was earlier expected that the company would launch at least its top two SKUs—the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080—toward the end of 2024, and ramp the series up from 2025. There is no explanation behind this "delay." Like everyone else, NVIDIA could be rationing its foundry allocation of the 3 nm wafers from TSMC for its high-margin "Blackwell" AI GPUs. The company now makes over five times the revenue from selling AI GPUs than it does from gaming GPUs, so this development should come as little surprise.

Things aren't any different with NVIDIA's rivals in this space, AMD and Intel. AMD's RDNA 4 graphics architecture and the Radeon RX series GPUs based on it, aren't expected to arrive before 2025. AMD is making several architectural upgrades with RDNA 4, particularly to its ray tracing hardware; and the company is expected to build these GPUs on a new foundry node. Meanwhile, Intel's Arc B-series gaming GPUs based on the Xe2 "Battlemage" graphics architecture are expected to arrive in 2025, too, although these chips are rumored to be based on a more mature 4 nm-class foundry node.



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No rush, gamers can already get video cards that can almost play games at max settings for the low-low price of $700, so it's all good. /s

(Fully expecting the new generation will arrive with a side of price hike.)
 

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If the rumor is true, it feels perhaps reactionary to hearing RDNA4 wont arrive till next year, giving time to build up inventory perhaps? time will tell.
 
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No rush, gamers can already get video cards that can almost play games at max settings for the low-low price of $700, so it's all good. /s

(Fully expecting the new generation will arrive with a side of price hike.)
Buying an expensive high end GPU to play unoptimized games, like buying a lifted truck to tackle potholes. I don't get.
 

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Well that's a bummer but I guess we should have seen it coming. Gaming GPUs are pretty much an afterthought to Nvidia right now. If the launch of the 5090 and 5080 are early next year then it will be even longer before the more affordable Blackwell GPUs roll out. :(
 
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Meh, at this point with my low “needs” I might just grab a 4060 or something just to have an up to date video engine and access to DLSS and call it a day. Nothing graphics intensive interests me anyway and waiting with bated breath to be honored with an opportunity to spend like 800 bucks or whatever NV decides to ask for a 5070 is just pointless. I genuinely feel like checking out of the GPU game completely. It’s all so tiresome.
 
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I can see a reason for Intel and AMD to get new GPUs out the door. Intel needs higher performance and AMD needs to improve Ray Tracing. But Nvidia will just release the same feature set just with slightly higher performance and most likely higher prices at worse power consumption (same 4 nm process according to rumors).
 
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Don't mind... GTA6 PC won't be out before 2026 anyway.
Probably need an Nvidia next gen by then.
 

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Buying an expensive high end GPU to play unoptimized games, like buying a lifted truck to tackle potholes. I don't get.
Not all games are unoptimized. But all new cards at $500 or less are basically potatoes.
 
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Meh, at this point with my low “needs” I might just grab a 4060 or something just to have an up to date video engine and access to DLSS and call it a day. Nothing graphics intensive interests me anyway and waiting with bated breath to be honored with an opportunity to spend like 800 bucks or whatever NV decides to ask for a 5070 is just pointless. I genuinely feel like checking out of the GPU game completely. It’s all so tiresome.
I gave up gaming years ago (lack of time). I still have some titles installed, thinking I will go through them one day and I would get a better GPU for that. But if I can let that go, I can start building around IGP and get by using a much, much smaller case.
 
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I actually welcome this news. I don't want to go to each year new product times, especially from the budget perspective.
I wish the smart phones companies would do the same, a new phone every 2 or 3 years instead of yearly cycle. Especially when you see the entitled shipple Apple cultists buying every year basically the same exact phone, with minor "improvements". Not that Samsung, Google or the Chinese companies are not doing the same....
 
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The death of technological progress. Few use cases need better hardware than what already exists.

It should become clearer what the purpose of RTX is, got to try and develop features to make upgrading worthwhile.

Raster rendering is conquered, essentially and a lot of the money in gaming is now on the mobile side where even 10 year old technology is ok?
 

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I actually welcome this news. I don't want to go to each year new product times, especially from the budget perspective.
I wish the smart phones companies would do the same, a new phone every 2 or 3 years instead of yearly cycle. Especially when you see the entitled shipple Apple cultists buying every year basically the same exact phone, with minor "improvements". Not that Samsung, Google or the Chinese companies are not doing the same....
You seem to be a little confused. Companies releasing something each each doesn't mean you have to buy each year. I have only upgraded from one generation to the next when AMD released the second gen s939 CPUs with dual-cores. Other than that, if I'm not seeing a sizable (~25-50%), I'm not upgrading. More recently, I went 2500k->6600k->12600k. Didn't feel I missed anything either.
 
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Don't mind... GTA6 PC won't be out before 2026 anyway.
Probably need an Nvidia next gen by then.
I don't really mind it either, my usual upgrade cycle is like 3 years between budget-mid range cards and my 3060 Ti will be 3 years old in 2025 September. 'I just hope that it wont die on me for whatever reason :laugh:'
That and the games I'm playing nowadays don't exactly require a faster card for my standards + I actually like DLSS so I don't mind using that either.
I also have like a lot of games in my backlog along with gamepass and all of those can be played just fine with this so yeh I can wait.:)
 
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Well, now it's Intel opportunity to release Battlemage before the end of this year.

Though odds are, they will miss it just like they missed Alchemist release date by some years.
 
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Meh, at this point with my low “needs” I might just grab a 4060 or something just to have an up to date video engine and access to DLSS and call it a day. Nothing graphics intensive interests me anyway and waiting with bated breath to be honored with an opportunity to spend like 800 bucks or whatever NV decides to ask for a 5070 is just pointless. I genuinely feel like checking out of the GPU game completely. It’s all so tiresome.

If you overthink about it, it's tiresome. Just get a 4060 or similar and call it a day.

I'm on holidays and playing at my moms laptop, equipped with a Ryzen 4600H and 1650Ti 4GB.
If you want to play a game, you can. That's why we have PCs and not bloody consoles. Adjust the settings and enjoy.
 
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8GB cards are obsolete. Look at water blocks for 8GB cards, the discount is very sweet, but still can't justify the pain.

Just tell me what node it's on. I can wait. Time for N3 on the GPU side as well as the CPU.
 

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It is a shame, such a pity, so unfortunate. :sleep:

No new cards, no gaming, no sales, declining revenues, exit of certain market segments, bankruptcy.
 
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I feel sorry for the poor guys with their 4090's, they will have to hang on to them old worn out cards for longer before they can splash out on a 5090.
 
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I'm fine with a laptop 4080, I'm giving my laptop to my son and getting a 4060 laptop.
 
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Lel, i refuse to buy this horrible and overpriced generation that can barely do raytracing or native resolution without DLSS/FSR or frame fakes. I guess the waiting continues then.
Also no DP2.1.... Its 2024 and soon 2025, you gotta be crazy to buy an old card.

Don't mind... GTA6 PC won't be out before 2026 anyway.
Probably need an Nvidia next gen by then.
Yea, if not by 2027 (or even later)... we really don't know. GTA 5 is a scary reminder after all.
 
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If the rumor is true, it feels perhaps reactionary to hearing RDNA4 wont arrive till next year, giving time to build up inventory perhaps? time will tell.

I would say it has more to do with them not having any competition so might as well milk ADA as long as possible.
 

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Lel, i refuse to buy this horrible and overpriced generation that can barely do raytracing or native resolution without DLSS/FSR or frame fakes. I guess the waiting continues then.
Also no DP2.1.... Its 2024 and soon 2025, you gotta be crazy to buy an old card.


Yea, if not by 2027 (or even later)... we really don't know. GTA 5 is a scary reminder after all.

Your points make perfect sense. Someone with their lobby makes everything possible to halt the progress.
They want you to game on 1500$ cards at 1080p with lowered settings. :kookoo:
 
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