G.SKILL Announces Ultra-Low Latency DDR5-6000 CL28 DDR5 Memory Kits

[AleksandarK]

G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd., the world's leading brand of performance overclock memory and PC components, is excited to announce an ultra-low latency specification of DDR5-6000 CL28-36-36-96 in 32 GB (2x16GB) and 64 GB (2x32GB) kit capacities, and DDR5-6000 CL28-38-38-96 in 48 GB (2x24GB) and 96 GB (2x48GB) kit capacities under the new Trident Z5 Royal Neo series, designed for compatible AMD AM5 platforms. Including AMD EXPO technology for an easy memory overclock experience in BIOS, this overclock performance memory kit with low timing is the ideal DDR5 memory solution for enthusiasts and overclockers.

Optimization with Memory Timing
For enthusiasts and overclockers, memory timing or latency is a key factor in squeezing performance out of a memory kit. Since memory timing is the delay between specific actions, a lower latency is desired; and performance may be improved by finding the best mix of memory speed and latency. Compared to a standard DDR5 memory speed and latency of DDR5-4800 CL40, this new DDR5-6000 CL28 memory specification aims to deliver a more optimized combination on compatible AMD AM5 platforms.




AMD EXPO Support & Availability
This new specification support AMD EXPO (Extended Profile for Overclocking) technology for easy memory overclocking via the motherboard BIOS, and will roll out to G.SKILL worldwide distribution partners starting in August 2024.

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[Chaitanya]

They are going to be quite expensive for 96GB kit at those timings.

 

[farmertrue]

Do we know if these are Hynix A or M die, or something different? Would imagine that a significant number of Hynix DDR5 that was 6000 CL30 could reach these tighter timings. I'm curious if this is partially the 9000 series launch and soon to be released bios/chipset updates rolling out for better reliability and timings.

 

[JWNoctis]

Interesting how it's not actually getting much faster than 6000C30. How much voltage are they pushing for that timing? Would a future process node do something more?

Also interesting how they don't seem to be pushing tRAS very far, when some overclockers drop it lower than tRCD on these modules. What's the magic here?

I'd also wonder how much longer they'd keep that posh look...These are certainly already way more expensive than their weight in silver.

 

[Woomack]

Do we know if these are Hynix A or M die, or something different? Would imagine that a significant number of Hynix DDR5 that was 6000 CL30 could reach these tighter timings. I'm curious if this is partially the 9000 series launch and soon to be released bios/chipset updates rolling out for better reliability and timings.

I wouldn't expect any new ICs anytime soon, so the 16/32GB modules are Hynix A, and the 24/48GB modules are Hynix M ( single/dual rank). The 2x32GB 6400 CL32 kit I'm currently testing is A-die. It was manufactured in July.

 

[S73fan]

It's probably stupid, but the new memory design is a bit banal to me... I liked the previous design a lot (DDR4).

 

[Launcestonian]

Gold HS? isn't that something the British royal family has in their gaming rigs!
Seriously, like what JWNoctis suggests, how much voltage is needed for these timings with 2x16GB kit? let alone the other ones. No information like that on the G.SKill product page.
High end DDR5 is getting awfully close to the voltages that high end DDR4 was pushing back in its day - 1.45v V 1.50v. This is getting ridiculous.

 

[Why_Me]

Those are ugly.

 

[tabascosauz]

Gold HS? isn't that something the British royal family has in their gaming rigs!
Seriously, like what JWNoctis suggests, how much voltage is needed for these timings with 2x16GB kit? let alone the other ones. No information like that on the G.SKill product page.
High end DDR5 is getting awfully close to the voltages that high end DDR4 was pushing back in its day - 1.45v V 1.50v. This is getting ridiculous.

The 6000CL30 and equivalent fare is coming in generally at 1.35-1.4V XMP these days. Plenty of people run their Hynix at 28 especially on AMD with the UCLK limitations, I think it's usually mild enough that you can still get away with 1.4V ish. Being a better bin might expect these to be 1.4V, but who knows. 1.45V seems a bit steep and would not be an amazing bin.

The same Hynix at 8000+, however, is definitely 1.5V+ territory. It likes the volts though, like its direct DDR4 predecessor (Hynix DJR). Top DJR (G.skill Royals mostly I think) came in 1.6V XMP. You can definitely see where A-die's lineage comes from LOL

 

[Six_Times]

Oh the good old days, CL1 and 1.5

 

[ir_cow]

Do we know if these are Hynix A or M die, or something different? Would imagine that a significant number of Hynix DDR5 that was 6000 CL30 could reach these tighter timings. I'm curious if this is partially the 9000 series launch and soon to be released bios/chipset updates rolling out for better reliability and timings.

the 16GB will be Hynix A (2GB) and the 24GB will be Hynix M (3GB). Nothing else can do this.... not even close.

 

[stimpy88]

DDR5 finally delivers on latency... Shame it's only at the basement speed. But a set of low latency 8000 would be nice to play with.

the 16GB will be Hynix A (2GB) and the 24GB will be Hynix M (3GB). Nothing else can do this.... not even close.

I wonder if this simply a new bin, or is it a new spin of the die? Also is there any difference in performance/latency between the two? Sorry, I literally know nothing about DDR5. I only know about the good old DDR4 and Samsung B-die!

 

[Jism]

You have a zillion subtimings to tune with DDR5 - what does make that CL28 so special?

 

[stimpy88]

You have a zillion subtimings to tune with DDR5 - what does make that CL28 so special?

Lower latency = more FPS and responsiveness.

 

[ir_cow]

DDR5 finally delivers on latency... Shame it's only at the basement speed. But a set of low latency 8000 would be nice to play with.

Don't think we will see 8000 CAS 34 anytime soon.

I wonder if this simply a new bin, or is it a new spin of the die?

Same Die Revision as far as I can tell. V-Color had a 5600 CAS26 last year with Hynix A Die. Already discontinued.

Also is there any difference in performance/latency between the two?

Between which too?

 

[stimpy88]

Don't think we will see 8000 CAS 34 anytime soon.


Same Die Revision as far as I can tell. V-Color had a 5600 CAS26 last year with Hynix A Die. Already discontinued.


Between which too?

Sorry, between the A and M chips, other than capacity.

 

[Blaeza]

Ooooh, shiny...

 

[tabascosauz]

Sorry, between the A and M chips, other than capacity.

16Gb A-die goes a lot further, 16Gb M-die might tighten slightly better in a few limited aspects. Not that there's any real reason to choose 16M over 16A if the latter is available.

In 24Gb density it's all M-die, and functionally is not very different behaving than 16Gb A-die.

I don't know what you mean about "finally" achieving good latency, A-die has been capable of much more than this for a long time, and it's really not hard to do by yourself with really any A-die kit (or even 16M probably). And who said A-die latency was bad in the first place? There's more to latency and performance than an artificial number cooked up by AIDA.

 

[Jism]

Lower latency = more FPS and responsiveness.

You don't get the point. DDR4/DDR5 is no longer straight forward with fiddling with some settings and boom free performance. It's extensive now and average tuning is not without tools such as DRAM Calculator. Just setting the CL to the lowest possible does not guarantee faster stuff - you need a wide variety of sub timings and settings to extract the most of it.

 

[Sunny and 75]

I'm interested in a 6400 CL28 2x16GB kit, should such a configuration become available in the form of Trident Z5 non-RGB series.

 

[ir_cow]

I'm interested in a 6400 CL28 2x16GB kit, should such a configuration become available in the form of Trident Z5 non-RGB series.

Also another configuration that won't be a thing until better ICs exist. If ever. For retail that is.

You can do it with like 1.6V on certain kits.

 

[johnnypop]

Do we know if these are Hynix A or M die, or something different? Would imagine that a significant number of Hynix DDR5 that was 6000 CL30 could reach these tighter timings. I'm curious if this is partially the 9000 series launch and soon to be released bios/chipset updates rolling out for better reliability and timings.

Doesn't seem new as on 7000x3d old vengance I run stable on 2x48GB M-Die 6000mhz at 28-35-30-48 84 at 1.4v and seen them running also at CL 26 at 6000mhz

 

[Sunny and 75]

Also another configuration that won't be a thing until better ICs exist. If ever. For retail that is.

We'll get there, eventually.

 

[5w0rdx]

Doesn't seem new as on 7000x3d old vengance I run stable on 2x48GB M-Die 6000mhz at 28-35-30-48 84 at 1.4v and seen them running also at CL 26 at 6000mhz

Hello, which motherboard did you use? Do you have the setup? Thank you!

 

[johnnypop]

Hello, which motherboard did you use? Do you have the setup? Thank you!

Hi it's MSI X670E Carbon WiFi Ryzen 7950X3D and Vengeance 6600 C32 "CMK96GX5M2B6600C32" tried 6200mhz but it seems harder and it crashes only way would be to half the UCLK but this comes th the cost so tested C26 at 1.6v and it runs fine just make sure to cool them properly also PBO offset manages to get to 5.925ghz if you keep temps down (Black Ice Nemesis GTX + Lian Li P28 + D5) BIOS 7D70v1H