AMD Zen 5 Recall Caused by a Typo?

[Sunny and 75]

This issue could easily be solved by blaming MB manufacturers, rounds of BIOS & microcode updates, and finally hiding the problem under the carpet.

XD!

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[Caring1]

Holy Crap there’s a lot of AMD cope in this thread. Read what AMD said: "During final checks, we found the initial production units that were shipped to our channel partners did not meet our full quality expectations”.

They shipped defective chips.

Botched screen printing does not equal defective chips.

 

[Melvis]

Holy Crap there’s a lot of AMD cope in this thread. Read what AMD said: "During final checks, we found the initial production units that were shipped to our channel partners did not meet our full quality expectations”.

They shipped defective chips.

You clearly never worked in Manufacturing have you? I can tell you for a fact that even if a barcode is not straight or inside the white box on the packaging than the ENTIRE Shipment had to be sent back and redone, and thats just for CAT & DOG Food! I can only Imagine the QC for CPU's would be even more stringent!

 

[SL2]

They shipped defective chips.

I dunno if you're just jumping to conclusions, or if I want you to define defective.

 

[AusWolf]

You clearly never worked in Manufacturing have you? I can tell you for a fact that even if a barcode is not straight or inside the white box on the packaging than the ENTIRE Shipment had to be sent back and redone, and thats just for CAT & DOG Food! I can only Imagine the QC for CPU's would be even more stringent!

That's not just manufacturing. Even in a warehouse, if a shipment arrives with one number wrong in the barcode, the entire shipment goes back to the manufacturer. It's just basic QA.

Holy Crap there’s a lot of AMD cope in this thread. Read what AMD said: "During final checks, we found the initial production units that were shipped to our channel partners did not meet our full quality expectations”.

They shipped defective chips.

So 1=2, not meeting expectations = defect, right?

 

[R0H1T]

AMD's liable to lawsuits even if they sold "misprinted" chips, surely this should be common knowledge?

 

[Melvis]

That's not just manufacturing. Even in a warehouse, if a shipment arrives with one number wrong in the barcode, the entire shipment goes back to the manufacturer. It's just basic QA.

No no thats what I mean, we would send the shipment over to japan then they would find 1 barcode incorrect at the warehouse or the dock and send the Entire lot back, if it was found at the manufacturing it wouldn't even get out of the factory.

 

[Sunny and 75]

The Intel problem also is typo.

XD!

 

[Godlygamer23]

Units are unequivocally the cpu dies, and typos are definitely not defects. Good catch.

While the chip itself is not defective, the CPUs are.

When you pay for a CPU, you're buying the whole thing, including the box, packaging, CPU package, die, etc, thus if the IHS is incorrectly marked, the CPU would be defined as defective from a manufacturing perspective.

It was supposed to meet some spec defined by AMD, including not only the specific nomenclature included on the IHS, but also the placement of the information. You personally may not care, but as a company manufacturing a product that likely wants something high quality, they do care, and thus the part as a whole is considered defective.

Reference: I work in the electronics industry as a Quality Engineer, and I've been part of this industry for the past 9 years.

 

[Carillon]

Next time I'll include an /s

 

[Sunny and 75]

Whatever the reason may be, I'm glad the delay's only a week or two.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Botched screen printing does not equal defective chips.

MLisD has confirmed AMD sources say it is not typos, but rather some 9950X chips were failing validation. They need the highest quality bins, so some chips may have to be turned into 9900/9700. Better they sort it out now and delay a few weeks than become an Intel.

 

[AusWolf]

MLisD has confirmed AMD sources say it is not typos, but rather some 9950X chips were failing validation. They need the highest quality bins, so some chips may have to be turned into 9900/9700. Better they sort it out now and delay a few weeks than become an Intel.

MLID doesn't confirm anything. It's a rumour channel, 99.9% of the "information" there comes from the neighbour's cat. I'll believe it when it's posted here on TPU.