Mindfactory Only Sold a Few Dozen AMD Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X

[john_]

9000 series compared to 7000 series, looks like the RX 7000 series compared to RX 6000. Too much architectural changes, zero result for the average consumer, meaning bad price compared to the product it tries to replace. Doing it once is understandable, doing it twice looks like a pattern or plain stupidity.

 

[Vayra86]

They literally said it was within 2%.

It's 25% slower.

So that's still not beating it, and obviously not beating the 7800X3D at a better power figure either.

So again, do people think about what they're reading, really?
Why would you buy or wait for this being 'within 2%' to begin with?

This whole release feels to me like a storm in teacup affair, both from the end of AMD making too much noise about it, as well as the consumer base (correction: internet media hype circus) making too much noise about it.

Much ado about nothing is the gist of all this. I didn't wait buying a 7800X3D for these reviews... bought it a week prior to any numbers. Zen 5 was barely even on my radar honestly... It was painfully obvious this CPU was a pointless release. A refinement, at best, which, frankly, it also is. It uses less power and has somewhat better features while offering samey perf as before. Let's move on

AMD's release strategy is a joke. Almost nobody cares for these low-end parts and releasing them like this hurts sales. It doesn't help that AMD lied about their performance, and has been found out.

That is true nonetheless.

9000 series compared to 7000 series, looks like the RX 7000 series compared to RX 6000. Too much architectural changes, zero result for the average consumer, meaning bad price compared to the product it tries to replace. Doing it once is understandable, doing it twice looks like a pattern or plain stupidity.

Hmmm GCN>RDNA1... somethingsomething ring a bell 'Its totally new'...
'Except it doesn't matter much'
RDNA2>3... Look at all the changes...

If they follow that cadence, 10000 series is going to be awesome again. It has to be, since its clearly over 9000 now.

 

[_roman_]

9000 series compared to 7000 series, looks like the RX 7000 series compared to RX 6000. Too much architectural changes, zero result for the average consumer, meaning bad price compared to the product it tries to replace. Doing it once is understandable, doing it twice looks like a pattern or plain stupidity.

I think its off topic.

I had a very loud MSI Radeon 6800 Z Trio. I was forced to sell it because of bad software and hardware behaviour in windows 11 pro and gnu gentoo linux. Always on rainbow led which wastes energy per hour. Unbearable Fan noise according to windows 11 pro driver at 40% or higher pwm value for the gpu fans.

The Powercolor 7800XT Hellhound is much quieter. The 7800XT does not have the gnu gentoo linux and windows 11 pro high power consumption bug. I do not need to manually change configuration files to get a lower idle power consumption in both operating systems. I was well aware off that the 7800XT is worse as the Radeon 6800XT. I think the 7800XT has a better power consumption. I paid 50€ premium and I had to wait to get the card. There is no really hardware support in gnu gentoo linux. Impossible to change any fan values or anything else last time i tried last winter. the linux drivers are not really well maintained. They work but that's it. I do expect some control over the fans and ways to downclock the core and memory officially from amd. Which does not exists.

 

[AVATARAT]

Except they are NOT if you expect them to work as designed out of the box if you previously had a single CCD and swapped in a dual CCD processor without doing a clean install.
Core Parking does not always work as the service may not be installed.

Windows 11 need clean install for different CPU, try with older/different OS
If you want your Windows to work fine, you need to click more than one tick
You give example with someone that go to AMD>Intel>AMD just for click biting? Cool

 

[phil995511]

CPUs released on 15.08 will hopefully have the most success.

Since the new motherboards won't arrive until September, sales are likely to stagnate until then...

If they had released a Ryzen 9 9950X in AM4 format for X570 motherboards and others, I would have gladly upgraded, but since they still don't offer anything better than my 5950x CPU for my X570 motherboard, I'm not ready to renew my CPU... ;-(

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

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I’ll be kind today for the slower folks
No reviewer tested these games. They have large performance delta’s, with or without them it skews the performance average in or out of favor. AMD didn’t lie, you and other’s simply fell for marketing.

Read more slowly next time.

Almost all reviews now a days only use games that have a large current player population on Steam.
If no one is playing it on Steam, it is no longer in reviews.

Deus Ex Mankind Divided is 8 years old, it's irrelevant game to all reviewers.
There are two titles on there that use mGPU those are Deus Ex Mankind Divided & Strange Brigade.

 

[phanbuey]

So that's still not beating it, and obviously not beating the 7800X3D at a better power figure either.

So again, do people think about what they're reading, really?
Why would you buy or wait for this being 'within 2%' to begin with?

This whole release feels to me like a storm in teacup affair, both from the end of AMD making too much noise about it, as well as the consumer base (correction: internet media hype circus) making too much noise about it.

Much ado about nothing is the gist of all this. I didn't wait buying a 7800X3D for these reviews... bought it a week prior to any numbers. Zen 5 was barely even on my radar honestly... It was painfully obvious this CPU was a pointless release. A refinement, at best, which, frankly, it also is. It uses less power and has somewhat better features while offering samey perf as before. Let's move on


That is true nonetheless.


Hmmm GCN>RDNA1... somethingsomething ring a bell 'Its totally new'...
'Except it doesn't matter much'
RDNA2>3... Look at all the changes...

If they follow that cadence, 10000 series is going to be awesome again. It has to be, since its clearly over 9000 now.

The problem is people used to believe AMDs claims - for 7800x3d those claims were true, as they were for zen 3 and zen X3D. These caught people off guard - the 5900xt marketing should have been the red flag. The zen 5 marketing is atrocious.

It shows a worrying trend in direction - the same trend that Intel was following post coffee lake and throughout their spectacular collapse.

it almost feels like they hired all the marketing people Intel laid off.

 

[mb194dc]

No surprise here and it's macro as much as the product...

 

[mechtech]

Even if it was 100% performance increase over mine, I still wouldn't get one. With the price of gas/petrol, mortgage since interest went from 2.6 to 6.4% etc. etc. There's no money left for nice to haves to replace something that's already working perfectly fine. Still have 3 and a bit years before this pc hits the 5yr mark.

 

[INSTG8R]

I‘m sure the majority are waiting for the 3D versions before making a purchase

 

[maximumterror]

Amazon.co.uk link. It's available at every CPU store countrywide. You won't find it at ASDA or your corner shop.

well done!!! available after 15th.
I buy from scan.co.uk, cclonline.com, ebuyer.com, box.co.uk (don't exist anymore) and pcworld/curry(probably will see those processors in half a year). I don't use amazon

 

[Geofrancis]

from what I can tell, almost all of the improvements are around avx512 or AI, for everything else it's basically the same.

 

[maximumterror]

How no? Yes they do and doing that for a sometime..

Scan, overclockers, amazon all in stock, btw in scan 9600x now only 269.99

i don't do pre order shopping... and yes i shop from your mentioned shops