MSI Prepares X870E "GODLIKE" Flagship Motherboard for AM5 Platform Processors

[AleksandarK]

MSI is set to launch its most advanced AM5 motherboard to date: the MEG X870E GODLIKE. This flagship model is designed to support AMD's Ryzen 9000 series processors and beyond. The MEG X870E GODLIKE boasts an impressive 28-phase power delivery system with 110 A power stages, surpassing its predecessor's capabilities. This robust VRM design ensures a stable power supply even for the most demanding scenarios of next-generation CPUs. The motherboard's E-ATX form factor provides ample space for its array of features, including support for DDR5 memory speeds exceeding 8000 MT/s and a capacity of up to 256 GB. Connectivity is a strong suit for this motherboard, featuring eight USB Type-C ports with varying speeds of up to 40 Gbps. Storage options include five M.2 slots (two PCIe Gen 5 and three Gen 4) and four SATA III ports.

For graphics, the board offers two PCIe Gen 5.0 slots. MSI has also included several user-friendly features, such as EZ M.2 and PCIe release mechanisms, making component installation and removal a breeze. The M.2 slots are equipped with MSI's Shield Frozr heatsinks, ensuring optimal thermal performance for NVMe SSDs. Perhaps most intriguing is the inclusion of an additional 8-pin power connector, specifically designed to support future multi-GPU setups like NVIDIA's anticipated RTX 50 "Blackwell" series. While pricing details are yet to be announced, the MEG X870E GODLIKE is expected to carry a premium price tag, reflecting its top-tier status in MSI's lineup. With the high-end power delivery setup, overclockers will find this motherboard interesting, and users are planning to upgrade to next-generation RTX 50 series GPUs. Availability is also unknown as of time of writing.



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[Chaitanya]

Absurd prices incoming for minimal "updates" compared to X670.

 

[las]

Absurd prices incoming for minimal "updates" compared to X670.

Price will be pretty much identical and X870E is far superior to X670. You act like MSI X670E Godlike is cheap. Godlike is a niche option, sold in very few numbers, no-one really cares. It's a halo product like all the other top motherboards.

X870 without the E equals X670E just with forced USB 4.

Also new boards mean new inputs and features. Tons of 600 series boards are dated in this regard. Especially non-Extreme versions.

 

[Bloste]

X870 without the E equals X670E just with forced USB 4.

Umm... no? X870 has only one Promontory21 chip, whereas X670E has 2 of them.

X870E is more or less a X670E rebranded with USB4, X870 and B850 are like the B650E with only one Promontory21.

 

[Kohl Baas]

Absurd prices incoming for minimal "updates" compared to X670.

Let's add the full name of the product to the absurtity: Micro Star International Micro Star International Extreme Gamer X870Extreme Godlike

 

[las]

Umm... no? X870 has only one Promontory21 chip, whereas X670E has 2 of them.

X870E is more or less a X670E rebranded with USB4, X870 and B850 are like the B650E with only one Promontory21.

X870 have PCIe 5.0 which is optional on X670 and USB 4 is good for some. I know 800 series chipsets are mostly rebrands with improvements on top (boards are going to be improved as well, better VRM, more and newer features etc.)

PCIe 5.0 is the biggest thing most people care about in this context. Pretty much no-one needs tons of PCIe lanes today. Many board makers are even removing PCIe slots because most people use just 1 - for GPU and multi GPU is pretty much dead.

He was talking about X670 not X670E.

X670E is still good, and what I use. B650E is good as well. All the other 600 series chipsets, are obsolete in my book.
X870E and X870 both look good and supports PCIe 5.0 fully, with USB 4.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

So, only 2 full length PCIe, one of its electrical X8. Not like some of previous "godlike" with 3-4 full length PCIe.

 

[kapone32]

Price will be pretty much identical and X870E is far superior to X670. You act like MSI X670E Godlike is cheap. Godlike is a niche option, sold in very few numbers, no-one really cares. It's a halo product like all the other top motherboards.

X870 without the E equals X670E just with forced USB 4.

Also new boards mean new inputs and features. Tons of 600 series boards are dated in this regard. Especially non-Extreme versions.

I don't think you are right in your assessment. From looking it seems the only advantage X870E has is USB 4 and a new Wifi Connector. A good X670E like the E Strix is way more flexible than most of the X870E boards I have seen. I guess you cannot share those 4 PCIe lanes with anything else for the sake of USB 4. I for one would not buy a board that sacrifices PCIe connectivity. My MB has 3 USB C on the back panel already and I have no peripheral that needs USB4. We are talking about PCs not handhelds or Mini PCs that could benefit from a EGPU. Even Memory support is in the CPU nowadays.

So, only 2 full length PCIe, one of its electrical X8. Not like some of previous "godlike" with 3-4 full length PCIe.

The X470 Unify was wired X16x8x8 and I loved it. The last port did not support lane splitting though.

X870 have PCIe 5.0 which is optional on X670 and USB 4 is good for some. I know 800 series chipsets are mostly rebrands with improvements on top (boards are going to be improved as well, better VRM, more and newer features etc.)

PCIe 5.0 is the biggest thing most people care about in this context. Pretty much no-one needs tons of PCIe lanes today. Many board makers are even removing PCIe slots because most people use just 1 - for GPU and multi GPU is pretty much dead.

He was talking about X670 not X670E.

X670E is still good, and what I use. B650E is good as well. All the other 600 series chipsets, are obsolete in my book.
X870E and X870 both look good and supports PCIe 5.0 fully, with USB 4.

You are talking about B650 when you talk 5.0 support. All X670E and X670 boards support PCIe. 5.0.

 

[las]

I don't think you are right in your assessment. From looking it seems the only advantage X870E has is USB 4 and a new Wifi Connector. A good X670E like the E Strix is way more flexible than most of the X870E boards I have seen. I guess you cannot share those 4 PCIe lanes with anything else for the sake of USB 4. I for one would not buy a board that sacrifices PCIe connectivity. My MB has 3 USB C on the back panel already and I have no peripheral that needs USB4. We are talking about PCs not handhelds or Mini PCs that could benefit from a EGPU. Even Memory support is in the CPU nowadays.


The X470 Unify was wired X16x8x8 and I loved it. The last port did not support lane splitting though.


You are talking about B650 when you talk 5.0 support. All X670E and X670 boards support PCIe. 5.0.

X870E boards are upping X670E boards in all aspects. 600 series boards have seen discounts recently and 800 series are going to make them vanish eventually.

Asus don't even make good AMD boards.

X670 and B650 don't have PCIe 5.0 for the GPU, X670E and B650E has. Just like X870E and X870. Buying a motherboard today without PCIe 5.0 for the GPU makes no sense, unless you don't buy premium GPUs. I do.

X670 is 16x 4.0 (GPU), 4x 5.0 (M.2), 4x 5.0.

Also there's improvements you don't know about yet, since AMD has not launched 800 series chipsets officially. They will do that next month. They will be optimized and ready for 9000 + 9000X3D. No point in buying old 600 series chipset boards anymore, unless they are dirt cheap maybe.

 

[kapone32]

X870E boards are upping X670E boards in all aspects. 600 series boards have seen massive discount recently and 800 series are going to make them vanish eventually.

Asus don't even make good AMD boards.

X670 and B650 don't have PCIe 5.0 for the GPU, X670E and B650E has.

X670 is 16x 4.0 (GPU), 4x 5.0 (M.2), 4x 5.0.

Also there's improvements you don't know about yet, since AMD has not launched 800 series chipsets officially. They will do that next month.

Are you sure about no good Asus boards? That is a very strong opinion. 5.0 support for M2 will not increase for X870E. The board pictured below has 3 5.0 M2 ports.

X670E boards are no different in price today vs when they launched. I am sure that B650 boards may drop in price but there is nothing in X870E to tempt someone that has a X670E to replace it.

 

[Prince Valiant]

Loss of a PCIe slot and halved SATA versus the X670E board for the 40gbps USB and the additional onboard NVMe I guess?

 

[las]

Yes they are cheaper today, big a big margin. Many dropped 25-50%

AM5 was plagued with expensive motherboards for a looong time after launch. Boards are much cheaper today.

And yeah, Asus don't really make good AMD boards and most 7800X3D that was fried on release, was on Asus boards as well.
Asus had tons of firmware bugs on their AMD boards. RMA has been crap too.

MSI, Gigabyte and AsRock are usually the way to go for AMD CPUs. This is nothing new really.

Asus looks to step up their AMD game with 800 series boards tho.

 

[msimax]

1DPC ftw

 

[TheDeeGee]

$1500 for the same performance as a $200 motherboard.

 

[las]

$1500 for the same performance as a $200 motherboard.

Not if you overclock, which is the point. Also an expensive board, has way more features, often better components, faster NICs, full on m.2 heatsinks, better onboard audio and tons of other stuff, which is what you pay for. I know, surprise.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

Not if you overclock, which is the point

No point. OC os almost dead.

 

[las]

No point. OC os almost dead.

Zen 5 literally gains 15-20% by overclocking

Zen 5 is power limited and needs OC to unfold true potential, especially 9700X which is massively held back by its 65W limit

And there's still tons of people that OC and gain 5-10% performance for free

Just because you don't need high end motherboards, does not mean others don't

 

[Tigerfox]

Price will be pretty much identical and X870E is far superior to X670. You act like MSI X670E Godlike is cheap. Godlike is a niche option, sold in very few numbers, no-one really cares. It's a halo product like all the other top motherboards.

X870 without the E equals X670E just with forced USB 4.

Also new boards mean new inputs and features. Tons of 600 series boards are dated in this regard. Especially non-Extreme versions.

Well, someone didn't read the previous info all too well.

X870 confusingly ist not like X670E or X670, but is B650E with forced USB4
X870E = X670E+USB4, X870 = B650E+USB4, B850 = B650 and B840 = A620. There is nothing like X670 without PCIe5.0 or USB4 anymore.

In what way, then, is X870E far superior? It's just the same old chipset with forced USB4 via AMS4242 onboard. Most boards now offer WiFi7 instead of WiFi6(E), but very few offer Realtek 5GbE instead of 2.5GbE.

ASM4242 is always connected to Gen4x4 from the CPU, which previously have been used for a M.2 slot, often Gen4x4, but sometimes Gen5x4 like the first one. So you lose 4 lanes Gen5 for something that doesn't neer them.

The boards that have been shown have mostly been X870, so only one chip, and fewer X870E with two chips than X670(E). Lane sharing is even more extreme now an there rarely are more than two PCIe-Slots or more than two independent M.2,

 

[hoxlund14]

x670e meg ace owner here. all i want in a x870e board with 10gb lan and usb 4. thats it.

 

[TheDeeGee]

Not if you overclock, which is the point. Also an expensive board, has way more features, often better components, faster NICs, full on m.2 heatsinks, better onboard audio and tons of other stuff, which is what you pay for. I know, surprise.

What's the point, these days you can get max 200 MHz more.

 

[Tigerfox]

x670e meg ace owner here. all i want in a x870e board with 10gb lan and usb 4. thats it.

Asus ProArt X870E-Creator WiFi. You can add 10GbE and USB4 to every board that has two x4-slots, though (for 10GbE, Gen4x1 or Gen3x2 is enough).

 

[hoxlund14]

And when you populate all the NVME spots it starts cutting pci-e slots. So I'd much rather have it integrated and not an addin.

 

[Tigerfox]

Well, with integrated, you just have less PCIe- and M.2-slots and more lane sharing going on.

With USB4 integrated, the Asus ProArt Creator is the only board with true USB4 and 10GbE revealed yet. It's X670E predecessor had an Intel JHL8540 with PCIe3.0x4 for TB4/USB4.

There might come an Asrock Taichi with 10GbE, perhaps if Gigabyte will offer a Xtreme it will have 10GbE and since both the MSI X670 Godlike and Ace had 10GbE, their X870E successor will also have it.

 

[SIGSEGV]

unreachable

Loss of a PCIe slot and halved SATA versus the X670E board for the 40gbps USB and the additional onboard NVMe I guess?

is this true?
If it's true then pointless, I will buy X670E instead.

 

[hoxlund14]

ya some of the manuals for the x870e boards are already on manufacturer websites, also in the specs sheet on the product pages

look for the asterisks