Apple Debuts the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max - Now with a Camera Button

[FierceRed]

Not even my teenage niece wants one of these.

Can we take a moment to comprehend just how BAD that is??

And it will still sell. What a time to be alive.

 

[Chaitanya]

One more serialized non-repairable manufactured waste. Also its one more wall to lock in users since wall around data/charging port was broken by regulation.

Edit: Also charging $1000 for a phone with non expandable 128GB of storage what year is CrApple living in, but I guess their customers will still overpay for manufactured eWaste.

 

[sLowEnd]

They're making some pretty big thermal dissipation and battery life improvement claims. I look forward to reviews.

 

[Crackong]

TL;DR.

Give us Money.

 

[Minus Infinity]

I am tempted to upgrade from my 12pro max

Wait another year, iPhone 17 Pro/Pro max is when the big upgrades come.

 

[Dr. Dro]

You seen the iPhone 15....14...13...12...?

There, you know what the 16 is. Expensive price, mediocre hardware that now comes with flashy "AI".

This phone is easily the highest spec device in the industry right now, and this includes niche Android gaming phones... the Pro and Pro Max don't share the silly 60 Hz/USB 2.0 limitations of the base models.

One more serialized non-repairable manufactured waste. Also its one more wall to lock in users since wall around data/charging port was broken by regulation.

Edit: Also charging $1000 for a phone with non expandable 128GB of storage what year is CrApple living in, but I guess their customers will still overpay for manufactured eWaste.

iOS has never been freer, it's still not a rooted Android phone but the former restrictions were greatly lifted. iOS 18 added several customization features the OS previously lacked, and there's many new features like app lockers that will only show the installed application if you authenticate with Face ID. It now has RCS support amongst many other things. You can download emulators from the App Store now, and a much greater degree of file system access has been made available, what bothers me is that it's kinda stuck in the PDA era and you need iTunes to move files back and forth, unless you're using AirDrop with a Mac or iCloud on Windows.

As for the non-repairable, Apple's still the only manufacturer which provides global authorized repair services for any currently supported iPhone and even further beyond, I just recently had the battery replaced on my Xs Max through Apple itself, good luck getting Samsung to repair a "vintage" Galaxy S9+ in any capacity.

 

[Hyderz]

Wait another year, iPhone 17 Pro/Pro max is when the big upgrades come.

Hnnnnnnnggg but but

 

[watzupken]

The camera button is a standout feature on the iPhone?! Oh my... How low will Apple drop the bar. So technically, there is nothing that different between the iPhone 15 and 16 for most of their user base. Well done Apple and Tim Cook.

Not even my teenage niece wants one of these.

Can we take a moment to comprehend just how BAD that is??

And it will still sell. What a time to be alive.

That's because of,
1. Brand - its a strong perception that if you don't use an Apple phone, you ain't cool
2. Lack of competition - I mean if you really look at what's offered, barring Chinese phone brands that are pushing the boundaries in some areas, the likes of Samsung don't produce compelling phones. And in my experience, Samsung phones tend not to last long, or have some teething issues. My last Samsung Galaxy Fold 4's folding screen failed in 15 months, and if you search up online, it does not seem like isolated failure. I was actually happy with the Fold 4 until it started to act up. Previous Galaxy S8 camera can't focus properly in less than a year. My earlier experiences with S1 and S2 were equally bad.

 

[starfals]

aHAHAHAHahahaha
1000 bucks for 130 gigs? Really?!? Its starting to look like Nvidia and their VRAM BS.

 

[Hyderz]

The non pro iPhone 16 is still getting the slow usb2 speed … even though it’s usb c….. shady practices are shady

 

[phanbuey]

This button is brave and stunning.

 

[Jun]

On the outside it's quite boring but their SoC is what's interesting. Increase power efficiency with performance gain is nice.

 

[R0H1T]

This phone is easily the highest spec device in the industry right now, and this includes niche Android gaming phones... the Pro and Pro Max don't share the silly 60 Hz/USB 2.0 limitations of the base models.

Depends on what you mean by highest spec; pretty sure top-end phones from Xiaomi, BBK, and Samsung have better hardware, except the SoC, on at least one of their models. Cam wise, there'd be at least half a dozen phones as good or better than any iPhone; the same goes for display or sound. The only thing you could argue is that there's probably not "one" device that has it all because that's how they make money ~ by selling different models.

 

[P4-630]

A hangover for Apple, the day after the most important product unveiling of the year for the company.
Apple has lost a case about unpaid taxes from the EU, and must therefore pay a record amount of 13 billion euros.

The verdict of the European Court of Justice, the highest EU court, came coincidentally this morning, the day after the unveiling of the new iPhones.
The case has been dragging on for years, and is about tax avoidance.
Back in 2016, the European Commission ruled after a long investigation that Apple had paid remarkably little tax on the billions in profits it had made in Europe between 2003 and 2015.

 

[Endeavour]

Seriously the whole feed feels so cringe. It feels like I'm watching Idiocracy. They couldn't find their way out of Apple's ass even if they had a life line. I"t has a button for the camera it's the greatest thing ever!!!"

They should point those people to a knife and tell them they can slice bread with it. Their brain would probably melt.

I remember a tech site talking about the Apple Watch when the sleep tracking feature was added. The reviewer was amazed because, according to him "thanks to this new feature I've discovered that if I go to bed earlier I can sleep more hours"

 

[AusWolf]

It's got a camera button? Just like some $100 phones 20 years ago, as well as my £200 Blackview? That's some true innovation right there! /s

 

[Dr. Dro]

Depends on what you mean by highest spec; pretty sure top-end phones from Xiaomi, BBK, and Samsung have better hardware, except the SoC, on at least one of their models. Cam wise, there'd be at least half a dozen phones as good or better than any iPhone; the same goes for display or sound. The only thing you could argue is that there's probably not "one" device that has it all because that's how they make money ~ by selling different models.

Nope, SoC, camera sensors, OLED generation, everything here is ahead of the pack, for now anyway. I suppose whenever Qcom is ready to announce the Snap 8G4, Samsung will be following with the S25 series right next. There were exceptionally few Android phones that had a camera that matched the iPhone 15 Pro Max's, and there are still no SoCs which outperform the A17 Pro at a technical level, although the 15PM has a serious tendency to overheat (which seems to have been rectified in this version) and thus, the Snap 8G3 could more or less keep up in MC tests (ST is A17 all the way).

 

[neatfeatguy]

I just double press the power button on my aged Galaxy S8 and I go into the camera. My phone doesn't need some crappy, stand alone camera button, Samsung was crafty enough to allow one button to do multiple things!

Apple is always a step behind, yet the crap they spew from their mouths make all the uneducated think that they're leading the innovation for anything they sell (phones, laptops, tablets, etc).

 

[AusWolf]

I just double press the power button on my aged Galaxy S8 and I go into the camera. My phone doesn't need some crappy, stand alone camera button, Samsung was crafty enough to allow one button to do multiple things!

Apple is always a step behind, yet the crap they spew from their mouths make all the uneducated think that they're leading the innovation for anything they sell (phones, laptops, tablets, etc).

Heck, even my £200 Blackview has a programmable button on its side. This has been a feature on many phones, even low-end ones in the last 20 years, so I don't know why and how Apple wants to sell this as something new.

 

[R0H1T]

Nope, SoC, camera sensors, OLED generation, everything here is ahead of the pack, for now anyway. I suppose whenever Qcom is ready to announce the Snap 8G4, Samsung will be following with the S25 series right next. There were exceptionally few Android phones that had a camera that matched the iPhone 15 Pro Max's, and there are still no SoCs which outperform the A17 Pro at a technical level, although the 15PM has a serious tendency to overheat (which seems to have been rectified in this version) and thus, the Snap 8G3 could more or less keep up in MC tests (ST is A17 all the way).

Not according to DxO ~

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What's that? I mean, are we talking just the generation "numbers" or any actual tangible improvements? In the past, Sammy and at least one of the BBK sub-bands or Xiaomi had the best screen out there.

Although tbf screens and camera output are kinda subjective at that price point.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Not according to DxO ~

Smartphone

Discover DXOMARK’s rankings on Camera, battery, display & audio to know all that you need to compare and choose a smartphone that best suits your needs!

www.dxomark.com

What's that? I mean, are we talking just the generation "numbers" or any actual tangible improvements? In the past, Sammy and at least one of the BBK sub-bands or Xiaomi had the best screen out there.

Although tbf screens and camera output are kinda subjective at that price point.

Yeah like I said its only a handful of phones that are better and almost all of them are newer than the 15PM, I expect the 16PM to top that chart or come close to it once its added to the ladder

 

[EatingDirt]

Yall tripping. I am still using my Iphone 6 plus. Does everything I need. Still tempting to upgrade to the 16 though. Literally the only difference from the 6 to the 16 is a jacked camera, and battery life. I do not see any hangups/slowdowns with the CPU, display still fine, I get 4 hours battery life which is better than my gaming laptop.

Agreed, except I would never consider a flagship phone unless it was used/on extreme discount, but I know I'm turning into the outlier these days.

I've never personally bought a phone over $300, because I only use my phone for ~7hr a week(which is mostly just 15-30m morning/evening news/social), and the occasional photo. I don't play games on my phone at all, that's what the PC is for. The only time I "upgrade" is when the phone on idle won't last longer than a day, and my last upgrade was AT&T sending me a Note 9 for free because my Motorola G wasn't compatible with their upgraded network. I expect I'll have the note 9 for another 2-4 years.

 

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[slyphnier]

Nope, SoC, camera sensors, OLED generation, everything here is ahead of the pack, for now anyway. I suppose whenever Qcom is ready to announce the Snap 8G4, Samsung will be following with the S25 series right next. There were exceptionally few Android phones that had a camera that matched the iPhone 15 Pro Max's, and there are still no SoCs which outperform the A17 Pro at a technical level, although the 15PM has a serious tendency to overheat (which seems to have been rectified in this version) and thus, the Snap 8G3 could more or less keep up in MC tests (ST is A17 all the way).

there no ahead of the pack imo, aside their soc, rest of hardware is from known big company (sony,samsung,qualcomm)

iphone camera sensor that from either sony or samsung, that many android phones also using
its not sensor, but more likely software optimization is better on apple side

same with oled display, its LTPO oled from samsung, tweaked/calibrated per apple request
if you look around, many people reporting similar iphone display issue to samsung phones

and A17pro technical level superiority only for its cpu+apple-controlled-ecosystem, its gpu behind snapdragons
and that with 3nm node, while SD8gen3 is 4nm on release

 

[unwind-protect]

For me the two-stage stutter button would be a huge advantage.

I'm pretty socketed in Team Pixel, though.