Intel Core Ultra 200 Arrow Lake CPUs Specifications Leaked

[Nomad76]

There is only a month left before the official launch of Intel new "Arrow Lake" CPUs. Now, we have a new leak revealing what appear to be the final specs for Intel's Core Ultra 200 'Arrow Lake' desktop CPUs series. According to Benchlife, Intel is preparing to release five SKUs. Although there is no KF version of the Core Ultra 9 285K yet, the new CPUs include: Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, Core Ultra 7 265K, Core Ultra 7 265KF, Core Ultra 5 245K, and Core Ultra 5 245KF. These processors will also be accompanied by new Z890 chipset motherboards.

The "K" model will have Xe-LPG-based integrated graphics, while the "KF" model will require a discrete GPU. Intel plans to expand its Arrow Lake lineup in early 2025 with non-K models. These new CPUs are expected to offer increased performance compared to their 13th and 14th generation predecessors. The new architecture aims to eliminate stability issues and reduce real-world power consumption.





Flagship Model: Core Ultra 9 285K

• 24 cores (8 P-cores + 16 E-cores) and 24 threads
• Lion Cove architecture for P-cores and Skymont for E-cores
• 76 MB total cache (36 MB L3 + 40 MB L2)
• Base clocks: 3.7 GHz (P-cores) / 3.2 GHz (E-cores)
• Boost clocks: 5.7 GHz (P-cores) / 4.6 GHz (E-cores)
• TDP: 125 W (PL1) / 250 W (PL2)

Mid-Range: Core Ultra 7 265K / 265KF

• 20 cores (8 P-cores + 12 E-cores) and 20 threads
• 66 MB total cache (30 MB L3 + 36 MB L2)
• Base clocks: 3.9 GHz (P-cores) / 3.3 GHz (E-cores)
• Boost clocks: 5.5 GHz (P-cores) / 4.6 GHz (E-cores)
• TDP: 125 W (PL1) / 250 W (PL2)

Entry-Level: Core Ultra 5 245K / 245KF

• 14 cores (6 P-cores + 8 E-cores) and 14 threads
• 50 MB total cache (24 MB L3 + 26 MB L2)
• Base clocks: 4.2 GHz (P-cores) / 3.6 GHz (E-cores)
• Boost clocks: 5.2 GHz (P-cores) / 4.6 GHz (E-cores)
• TDP: 125 W (PL1) / 159 W (PL2)

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[Dristun]

So the iGPU is not Xe2/Battlemage like in Lunar Lake after all, huh. A missed chance to smoke 8600G without additional skus.

 

[GoldenX]

So the iGPU is not Xe2/Battlemage like in Lunar Lake after all, huh. A missed chance to smoke 8600G without additional skus.

That also means pretty broken drivers out of the box and less than 4 years of support guaranteed. Classic Intel.

 

[Daven]

First 100% fabbed Intel CPU by someone else. End of an era.

 

[SRB151]

How can they say Arrow Lake is designed to be more stable when the design was finalized and silicon had to have had it's final spin long before they admitted the stability problem?
Even worse, they didn't admit to knowing what the exact problem was while Arrow Lake was in mass production. Or did they?

 

[Vayra86]

250W PL2... haha lmao. Nothing changed here, moving on... Oops, I tripped over the 50 watts my X3D is gaming on

How can they say Arrow Lake is designed to be more stable when the design was finalized and silicon had to have had it's final spin long before they admitted the stability problem?
Even worse, they didn't admit to knowing what the exact problem was while Arrow Lake was in mass production. Or did they?

We should know by now Intel will say whatever they want to say. I wouldn't attribute too much value to it. Just use common sense. If more people had, they wouldn't have gone headfirst into these excessive TDPs anyway.

All I see is a constant repeat of the same shit; keeping things under the rug for as long as possible, and then lying your way to the least unfavorable outcome for shareholders. Fuck everyone else, no in fact, screw the shareholders too, because now the share price is in the shitter anyway. Intel exists for one primary purpose: itself and its management. Every time, you get sold something that's supposedly faster, but oops, nope, gotta cap that perf because Meltdown hits... or your K-chip won't actually really run well at its advertised clock and most certainly won't overclock much beyond it; or just their own overenthusiastic marketing department happened... or the chips might have degraded, who knows... the list is far too long.

There's but one lesson to be learned here: Karma is a Bitch. I honestly don't trust Intel on anything they release at this point anymore. If I ever buy anything of them again, it will be a generation of CPUs that's been in the wild for two years at least. Early adopting anything blue... not in my wildest dreams, ever, again.

 

[docnorth]

It might be nitpicking, but a mid-range, high-end and flagship classification seems more suitable .

 

[Assimilator]

Seems strange that Lunar Lake gets Battlemage while Arrow is stuck on Archmage.

 

[ncrs]

Seems strange that Lunar Lake gets Battlemage while Arrow is stuck on Archmage.

Lunar Lake's using a combined CPU+iGPU chiplet/tile.
Arrow Lake-S is supposedly reusing the failed Meteor Lake-S design (which got partially repurposed into the embedded line Meteor Lake-PS) which is using separate CPU and iGPU chiplets/tiles.
It's possible that Intel had fabricated many more iGPU tiles than they used for Meteor Lake-PS, and are using them with Arrow Lake-S simply to keep the cost down. It's just my speculation tho.

 

[Assimilator]

Lunar Lake's using a combined CPU+iGPU chiplet/tile.
Arrow Lake-S is supposedly reusing the failed Meteor Lake-S design (which got partially repurposed into the embedded line Meteor Lake-PS) which is using separate CPU and iGPU chiplets/tiles.
It's possible that Intel had fabricated many more iGPU tiles than they used for Meteor Lake-PS, and are using them with Arrow Lake-S simply to keep the cost down. It's just my speculation tho.

Jesus christ, what a fucking mess that company is in.

 

[Vayra86]

Seems strange that Lunar Lake gets Battlemage while Arrow is stuck on Archmage.

Battlemage took that moonshine and Archmage took an arrow to the knee, apparently

 

[ZoneDymo]

meh

 

[TristanX]

First 100% fabbed Intel CPU by someone else. End of an era.

Lunar Lake is first

 

[phints]

250W PL2? Intel what the FDLSKJF:SLJF are you doing? TDP should be 105W.

 

[Daven]

250W PL2? Intel what the FDLSKJF:SLJF are you doing? TDP should be 105W.

Intel P cores still run extremely hot unless you keep the clock speeds lower. It will take a whole different architecture (eg. E cores) to change that. If E cores keep getting higher IPC while maintaining conservative clocks, maximum TDP could be kept under 200W for a 100% E core design.

 

[Fouquin]

First 100% fabbed Intel CPU by someone else. End of an era.

Arrow Lake-S still uses Intel 4 for the CPU tile, just like Meteor Lake. You're thinking of Lunar Lake which is TSMC N3B+N6.

 

[Tomgang]

Arh come on intel that line up is just a repeat of the two last gen core design wise and now with ht gone on the p-cores.

Unless there is a significant ipc gain, i am not impressed so far. It even has lower max turbo clock compared to last gen (yes i know core clock is not all).

But still lower core clock, no ht and a very similar design/line up compared to last gen. Its hardly much to be excited so far.

But intel has give 15 gen a good amount of ekstra cashe and we have seen before more cashe can do wunders for gaming performance (just look at amd's 3D chips) and if intel also has increased ipc gains line 10 %, 15 gen could still be a good cpu. But so far on paper at least, there is not much to be excited about accept more cashe.

 

[Lord Romulus]

For three generations this company has stagnated at 8 cores (I mean real cores, not "chicken cores"). Luckily the other company still delivers 12 and 16 cores.

 

[Lew Zealand]

So the iGPU is not Xe2/Battlemage like in Lunar Lake after all, huh. A missed chance to smoke 8600G without additional skus.

That costs valuable die space for something very few will take advantage of. Instead there could be a separate SKU for the big iGPU options like AMD does with the 8xxx and 9xxx series. Intel's done this in the past in the laptop/MiniPC space and I hope they do it here as well, especially for some T-class SKUs.

 

[RogueSix]

Arrow Lake-S still uses Intel 4 for the CPU tile, just like Meteor Lake. You're thinking of Lunar Lake which is TSMC N3B+N6.

Nope. The entire Arrow Lake CPU is manufactured at TSMC on TSMC's rather expensive N3B node. Intel 4 was never on the cards for Arrow Lake (maybe many YEARS back but not in the past two to three years). At 2023's Intel Innovation Event, they already demo'ed a 20A Arrow Lake wafer).

Intel 4 was -or now is- always exclusively a mobile node for Meteor Lake only. It's also a crap node if you look at Meteor Lake's metrics. It failed to impress in performance and efficiency.

If everything would have gone according to Intel's plans then they would have loved to manufacture at least some tiles of Arrow Lake on their 20A node which was repeatedly referred to as an important stepping stone on the path to the all important 18A node.
20A was also supposed to introduce BSP and GAA but even these key technologies are not going to happen this year because Intel scrapped the 20A node entirely. 20A was supposed to be a bridge to 18A by introducing this tech gradually.
None of this is happening now because Intel could not hack it. They are hoping to get their act together with 18A next year (it's always "next year" with Intel for almost the past decade by now ).

Both, Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake will now be 100% manufactured by TSMC. Here's a pretty good summary of how and why Intel ended up cancelling 20A which resulted in them being forced to outsource Lunar and Arrow Lake to TSMC.

 

[Daven]

Arrow Lake-S still uses Intel 4 for the CPU tile, just like Meteor Lake. You're thinking of Lunar Lake which is TSMC N3B+N6.

Arrow Lake is all TSMC now. It was originally going to be 20A for the compute tile but Intel discontinued that node recently.

Arrow Lake will only be packaged at IFS.

 

[Jaskara]

For three generations this company has stagnated at 8 cores (I mean real cores, not "chicken cores"). Luckily the other company still delivers 12 and 16 cores.

This has forever been one of the weirdest takes about E-cores. The new gen skymont cores have the same IPC as Raptor Cove. I guess Zen 1/2/3 were chicken cores because they were even slower than that?

4 E-cores offer more MT throughput than 1 P-core would, while using less power and taking up less area. Why on earth would I want Intel to print a uniform 12 P-core design that uses more power and offers less MT performance than an 8P+16E design?

 

[Niceumemu]

How can they say Arrow Lake is designed to be more stable when the design was finalized and silicon had to have had it's final spin long before they admitted the stability problem?
Even worse, they didn't admit to knowing what the exact problem was while Arrow Lake was in mass production. Or did they?

1) It isn't being manufactured in Intel fabs so that solves one issue
2) They likely have known about the issues for much longer than they let on

I still wouldn't trust these chips for at the very least a year though, and they'd need to have much better performance per dollar than AMD's offerings

 

[Solid State Brain]

250W PL2? Intel what the FDLSKJF:SLJF are you doing? TDP should be 105W.

Marketing department: "why settle with 80% of the performance when you can have 100% with more than twice the power?"

 

[Minus Infinity]

So the iGPU is not Xe2/Battlemage like in Lunar Lake after all, huh. A missed chance to smoke 8600G without additional skus.

This has been known for a year. It was always said to get Alchemist+ not Battlemage. Panther Lake gets Xe3 Celestial. But Intel is going to copy AMD and do a high-end Halo like Arrow Lake it has been rumoured.

Arrow Lake is all TSMC now. It was originally going to be 20A for the compute tile but Intel discontinued that node recently.

Arrow Lake will only be packaged at IFS.

And it was only going to be 20A for some SKU's like i3 and i5.