Micron Expands SSD Portfolio With New Crucial P310 2280 Gen 4 SSD

[Nomad76]

Micron Technology, Inc., today announced the availability of the Crucial P310 2280 Gen 4 NVMe solid-state drive (SSD), which offers two times faster performance than Gen 3 SSDs and 40% faster performance than Crucial's P3 Plus, giving gamers, students and creatives a boost in speed when they boot and use data-intensive applications. With capacities up to 2 terabytes (TB) and read and write speeds of 7,100 and 6,000 megabytes per second (MB/s) respectively, the P310 2280 SSD enables more customers than ever to gain access to gaming performance without paying gaming prices. This launch expands Micron's P310 portfolio to address PCs, laptops and PlayStation 5, closely following the July launch of its award-winning Crucial P310 2230 SSD, which is targeted at users of handheld gaming consoles and mini PCs.

"Micron's Crucial P310 2280 SSD delivers blazing fast gaming-level speeds, allowing users to do it all faster — from gaming to booting Windows to running multiple creative apps at the same time — without compromising on quality," said Jonathan Weech, senior director of product marketing for Micron's Commercial Products Group. "Architected with our advanced 3D NAND technology and optimized to deliver the utmost power efficiency, the 2280 SSD empowers everyone from gamers to creatives to squeeze more out of their battery life when using data-rich apps."





The Crucial P310 2280 Gen 4 SSD offers these benefits:

• Sequential read speeds of 7,100 MB/s and write speeds of 6,000 MB/s.
• Capacity options from 500 gigabytes to 1 TB or 2 TB, allowing users to store more content without worrying about size or capacity.
• 20% faster performance in real-world tasks than other Gen 4 SSDs booting Windows, starting applications such as Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator, and loading seamless gameplay on PCs.
• Random reads up to 1 million input/output operations per second (IOPS) and random writes up to 1.2 million IOPS.
• Up to 40% better performance-to-power ratio, allowing users to get more done on a single charge.
• Backward compatibility with Gen 3 devices.

The SSD is available in a standard M.2 2280 form factor that offers an easy-to-install solution that customers can use to upgrade their existing laptops and extend device lifecycles rather than buying new ones. A version with a heatsink will be released in the coming months and is ideally suited for use with PlayStation 5 and desktop gaming PCs.

The P310 2280 Gen 4 SSD is now available at crucial.com, as well as through select etailers, retailers and global channel partners, and it comes with a five-year warranty

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[Chaitanya]

Why are capacities still stuck at 1TB and 2TB also are these QLC based drives?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Why are capacities still stuck at 1TB and 2TB also are these QLC based drives?

If they're just 2280 long P310 drives, then they should still be QLC.

 

[Chrispy_]

Waffle waffle waffle, another page of marketing bullshit completely lacking any substance whatsoever.

The fact that DRAM and NAND density aren't mentioned means that it's almost certainly DRAMless QLC garbage.

edit - yeah, reviews seem to show it reserves around 17% of the remaining free space (possibly exactly 1/6th) for pSLC cache mode before dropping to ~300MB/s writes. That's not the worst QLC write speeds I've seen so I'll give this a tentative pass if it's significantly cheaper than the TLC-NAND equivalents like the SN580 and Crucial P5.

 

[azrael]

Waffle waffle waffle, another page of marketing bullshit completely lacking any substance whatsoever.

The fact that DRAM and NAND density aren't mentioned means that it's almost certainly DRAMless QLC garbage.

edit - yeah, reviews seem to show it reserves around 17% of the remaining free space (possibly exactly 1/6th) for pSLC cache mode before dropping to ~300MB/s writes. That's not the worst QLC write speeds I've seen so I'll give this a tentative pass if it's significantly cheaper than the TLC-NAND equivalents like the SN580 and Crucial P5.

Was just about to state how incredibly vague they are with regard to how the 3D NAND is used. They know fairly well how unliked QLC is. It's not even the speed for me. It's the fact that they put four bit stats into a single cell. That makes things immensly more complex and errorprone. Which reminds me (and this is slightly off-topic) are "they" (as in, not only Micron) still working on PLC drives? Or have they (hopefully) given up.

 

[_roman_]

I'm annoyed by false advertisment. I got triggered because of the 20 times more statement of the decent SATA III standard. Therefore I looked it up quickly. In my point of view, Crucial has no idea about mathematics or about drive speeds. (lying or fake advertisment are bad words)

Maybe someone can improve the following statement, or give better insights.

I read it as 7100MB/s / 20 = 355MB/s Read speed.

Several Webpages have similar statements

The maximum speed here, limited by the SATA III interface, is only 600 MB/s* (theoretical)

Several drives claims over 500MB/S read for SATA III drives, Source: https://ssd-tester.com/sata_ssd_test.php

Feel free to do the maths, choose the numbers. That is far of the 20 times.

• 7100 / 500
• 7100 / 600
• 7100 / 530

What I know for sure my gnu linux userspace always advertise my SATA connectors with SATA 6 Gb/s. On older sold notebooks I had less speed on the optical sata connector for example.

--

Final statement. Crucial if you read this: Stop advertisement which is wrong. State the correct numbers. State the standard for SATA speeds, for example 20 times faster as SATA I or 20 times faster as SATA II

 

[Chrispy_]

Was just about to state how incredibly vague they are with regard to how the 3D NAND is used. They know fairly well how unliked QLC is. It's not even the speed for me. It's the fact that they put four bit stats into a single cell. That makes things immensly more complex and errorprone. Which reminds me (and this is slightly off-topic) are "they" (as in, not only Micron) still working on PLC drives? Or have they (hopefully) given up.

I'm willing to bet they've given up on it.

Each extra bit doubles program-erase cycle complexity, halves the endurance, halves the performance, and increases the amount of work the controller needs to do, which raises both the power consumption and the cost of the controller.

SLC > MLC was 100% more storage, so worth it.
MLC > TLC was 50% more storage, so worth it, mostly.
TLC > QLC was 33% more storage, and definitely only worth it for specific use cases at larger capacities where the controller costs and other downsides can be mitigated by significant cost savings.
QLC > PLC will be just 25% more storage, and is almost certainly going to deliver cheap microSD card performance, barely enough endurance to meet the bare minimum warranty term, and horrific controller costs that will be difficult to recoup for the bottom-of-the-barrel market segment it will be targeting. I'm not even convinced QLC is viable outside of games libraries and casual-use devices...

 

[kapone32]

Can we please get updated capacities in this space? Once you have a 2 TB NVME there is no incentive to buy another one just because it is from Crucial. Where are the 8 TB NVME. I am pretty sure 8 TB SSD have been around for a while. They really need to step up the innovation in this space. Most MBs have at least 1 110mm slot for longer drives too. It is kind of killing the market.

 

[Dragokar]

Why only up to 2 TB? I would like to buy 4 TB or greater drives with a good value......

 

[Assimilator]

So is this a successor to P3/P3 Plus? A new product line? Or what?

God I hate product naming.

 

[TheLostSwede]

So is this a successor to P3/P3 Plus? A new product line? Or what?

God I hate product naming.

It's a 2280 version of the P310, which launched as a 2230 drive in July.

This launch expands Micron’s P310 portfolio to address PCs, laptops and PlayStation 5, closely following the July launch of its award-winning Crucial P310 2230 SSD, which is targeted at users of handheld gaming consoles and mini PCs.

Micron Unveils Crucial P310 2230 Gen4 NVMe SSD

Micron Technology, Inc., today announced the availability of the Crucial P310 2230 Gen 4 NVMe solid-state drive (SSD), which empowers enthusiasts of handheld gaming and users of mini PCs and ultrathin laptops to store more games and data-intensive content at their fingertips without sacrificing...

www.techpowerup.com

Crucial P310 1 TB Specs

1 TB, QLC, PCIe 4.0 x4, M.2 2230

www.techpowerup.com

I guess all of you have lost your ability to read.

 

[Chrispy_]

I guess all of you have lost your ability to read.

You're making the bold (and provably-foolish) assumption that this 2280 model is the same spec as the 2230 model.

For many manufacturers, the controller and NAND are randomly selected from whatever the cheapest available source is. At least here it's 99% likely to be using Micron's own NAND, but they could still be bait-and-switching the controller based on what day of the week it is - the lack of the controller in their official product spec pages is quite obviously intentional wiggle room.

 

[TheLostSwede]

You're making the bold (and provably-foolish) assumption that this 2280 model is the same spec as the 2230 model.

For many manufacturers, the controller and NAND are randomly selected from whatever the cheapest available source is. At least here it's 99% likely to be using Micron's own NAND, but they could still be bait-and-switching the controller based on what day of the week it is - the lack of the controller in their official product spec pages is quite obviously intentional wiggle room.

Well, I can only go with what's written in the actual press release. No-one seems to have read what it says though.
Also, Crucial only ever uses Micron NAND in their SSDs, for obvious reasons.
The rest, I can't vouch for.

 

[Pepamami]

I'm annoyed by false advertisment. I got triggered because of the 20 times more statement of the decent SATA III standard. Therefore I looked it up quickly. In my point of view, Crucial has no idea about mathematics or about drive speeds. (lying or fake advertisment are bad words)

Maybe someone can improve the following statement, or give better insights.

I read it as 7100MB/s / 20 = 355MB/s Read speed.

Several Webpages have similar statements



Several drives claims over 500MB/S read for SATA III drives, Source: https://ssd-tester.com/sata_ssd_test.php

Feel free to do the maths, choose the numbers. That is far of the 20 times.

• 7100 / 500
• 7100 / 600
• 7100 / 530

What I know for sure my gnu linux userspace always advertise my SATA connectors with SATA 6 Gb/s. On older sold notebooks I had less speed on the optical sata connector for example.

--

Final statement. Crucial if you read this: Stop advertisement which is wrong. State the correct numbers. State the standard for SATA speeds, for example 20 times faster as SATA I or 20 times faster as SATA II

Nvme is Full Duplex, Sata is Half Duplex.

 

[Wirko]

I'm willing to bet they've given up on it.

Each extra bit doubles program-erase cycle complexity, halves the endurance, halves the performance, and increases the amount of work the controller needs to do, which raises both the power consumption and the cost of the controller.

SLC > MLC was 100% more storage, so worth it.
MLC > TLC was 50% more storage, so worth it, mostly.
TLC > QLC was 33% more storage, and definitely only worth it for specific use cases at larger capacities where the controller costs and other downsides can be mitigated by significant cost savings.
QLC > PLC will be just 25% more storage, and is almost certainly going to deliver cheap microSD card performance, barely enough endurance to meet the bare minimum warranty term, and horrific controller costs that will be difficult to recoup for the bottom-of-the-barrel market segment it will be targeting. I'm not even convinced QLC is viable outside of games libraries and casual-use devices...

⊂ = YOU ARE HERE

 

[azrael]

It's a 2280 version of the P310, which launched as a 2230 drive in July.

Micron Unveils Crucial P310 2230 Gen4 NVMe SSD

Micron Technology, Inc., today announced the availability of the Crucial P310 2230 Gen 4 NVMe solid-state drive (SSD), which empowers enthusiasts of handheld gaming and users of mini PCs and ultrathin laptops to store more games and data-intensive content at their fingertips without sacrificing...

www.techpowerup.com

Crucial P310 1 TB Specs

1 TB, QLC, PCIe 4.0 x4, M.2 2230

www.techpowerup.com

I guess all of you have lost your ability to read.

TBH, nowhere in this announcement can the letters Q, L and C be found sequentially after each other. And honestly, why should I have to look up specs for another drive (albeit of the same family) in TPU's SSD database? That's information that should be part of the press release for that actual drive. Alas, they know better than to put it there.

 

[Chrispy_]

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⊂ = YOU ARE HERE

So PLC = Anger?

 

[Assimilator]

It's a 2280 version of the P310, which launched as a 2230 drive in July.

Micron Unveils Crucial P310 2230 Gen4 NVMe SSD

Micron Technology, Inc., today announced the availability of the Crucial P310 2230 Gen 4 NVMe solid-state drive (SSD), which empowers enthusiasts of handheld gaming and users of mini PCs and ultrathin laptops to store more games and data-intensive content at their fingertips without sacrificing...

www.techpowerup.com

Crucial P310 1 TB Specs

1 TB, QLC, PCIe 4.0 x4, M.2 2230

www.techpowerup.com

I guess all of you have lost your ability to read.

That still doesn't answer how it compares to P3 or P3 Plus.

 

[watzupken]

Waffle waffle waffle, another page of marketing bullshit completely lacking any substance whatsoever.

The fact that DRAM and NAND density aren't mentioned means that it's almost certainly DRAMless QLC garbage.

edit - yeah, reviews seem to show it reserves around 17% of the remaining free space (possibly exactly 1/6th) for pSLC cache mode before dropping to ~300MB/s writes. That's not the worst QLC write speeds I've seen so I'll give this a tentative pass if it's significantly cheaper than the TLC-NAND equivalents like the SN580 and Crucial P5.

If TLC is not mentioned, you can almost be certain that it is QLC. This piece of information is deliberately left out to leave it vague. I guess for most users, SSDs using QLC will not be a problem since you can't really tell the difference in day to day usage. Unless your day to day involves moving huge files to and from your drive constantly which will overwhelm the SLC cache. The only problem with all these QLC drives is that the price is not attractive relative to TLC. If I had to choose between a PCI-E 3.0 TLC SSD vs a PCI-E 4.0 QLC drive at around the same price, I would still pick the former since the sequential transfer rate is useless for my workflow/ use case.

 

[A&P211]

Waffle waffle waffle, another page of marketing bullshit completely lacking any substance whatsoever.

The fact that DRAM and NAND density aren't mentioned means that it's almost certainly DRAMless QLC garbage.

edit - yeah, reviews seem to show it reserves around 17% of the remaining free space (possibly exactly 1/6th) for pSLC cache mode before dropping to ~300MB/s writes. That's not the worst QLC write speeds I've seen so I'll give this a tentative pass if it's significantly cheaper than the TLC-NAND equivalents like the SN580 and Crucial P5.

I have a QLC drive, but in SATA format, that writes at 150mb/s after the cache is used up. Its only 78gb of cache for a 8tb SATA drive.

Can we please get updated capacities in this space? Once you have a 2 TB NVME there is no incentive to buy another one just because it is from Crucial. Where are the 8 TB NVME. I am pretty sure 8 TB SSD have been around for a while. They really need to step up the innovation in this space. Most MBs have at least 1 110mm slot for longer drives too. It is kind of killing the market.

8TB drives have been around for few years, the issue is the price, around $700-1000.

 

[rtwjunkie]

So where does this sit in the product lineup? It seems the T500 was already the successor to the P3 Plus. It’s like 2 parallel products?

 

[Bwaze]

Can we please get updated capacities in this space? Once you have a 2 TB NVME there is no incentive to buy another one just because it is from Crucial. Where are the 8 TB NVME. I am pretty sure 8 TB SSD have been around for a while. They really need to step up the innovation in this space. Most MBs have at least 1 110mm slot for longer drives too. It is kind of killing the market.

No, they are telling us we should buy more drives (with all complications this brings with more expensive motherboards and lane bifurcations), not bigger drives - even readers here often agree that in the age of streaming and cloud storage noone needs larger drives at all!

There were now several waves of announcements on how 8 TB drives are coming in larger numbers, we were even told in various tech shows that the current models will later come in 8 TB capacity, and nothing. Sure, we have couple of them, but the price is ridiculous - when 4 TB drives could be had below 200 EUR you could at least expect some drive to approach 400 EUR + some fee for cutting edge largest capacity - but no, they remained firmly above 800 EUR... There aren't even many reviews of these drives, too dear. We were teased cheaper large capacity drives, and larger capacities for consumer drives this year from several makers, but they might have diverted all this push to satisfy the (for now) better paying AI server market!

So I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[Chrispy_]

I have a QLC drive, but in SATA format, that writes at 150mb/s after the cache is used up. Its only 78gb of cache for a 8tb SATA drive.

Good grief that's abysmal!
At least newer QLC isn't usually that slow.

 

[Wirko]

So where does this sit in the product lineup? It seems the T500 was already the successor to the P3 Plus. It’s like 2 parallel products?

The T500 is the successor to the P5. Both have TLC flash and DRAM.

TBH, nowhere in this announcement can the letters Q, L and C be found sequentially after each other. And honestly, why should I have to look up specs for another drive (albeit of the same family) in TPU's SSD database? That's information that should be part of the press release for that actual drive. Alas, they know better than to put it there.

The product page says 440 TBW (for 2TB model). That's sufficient data.

Also, for whatever (bad) reason, Crucial doesn't even tell us that the T705, T700, and T500 are TLC. Their specs reveal little more than "yes, it works".

 

[azrael]

The product page says 440 TBW (for 2TB model). That's sufficient data.

Not sure if serious or not...