Qualcomm Said to Have Approached Intel About Takeover Bid

[hsew]

I’m surprised Nvidia hasn’t approached Intel for a buyout. Maybe the ARM buyout being blocked by regulators is still fresh?

 

[watzupken]

I do think it is possible that this may end up being cleared by the regulators. The ARM acquisition by Nvidia is different from this case. For 1, it's a US company acquiring a US company here. 2, Intel is not in a financially sound position and may require US government to prop them up if they go under. US will be unlikely to let their main chip maker fail and we can see them awarding Intel billions to manufacture military chips. So an acquisition by a US company is probably a viable option. Hence, I think that's why Qualcomm is trying.

 

[Gooigi's Ex]

Who Qualcomm is owned by:
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Who Intel is owned by:
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(Of course it doesn't end here. The list is very similar for AMD. Also Nvidia, except for a certain individual who owns ~3.8%)

The huge operation known to the public as "Qualcomm buys Intel" would actually boil down to "accountants at mutual funds update some records", more or less.

BlackRock double dippin on both companies

 

[watzupken]

I’m surprised Nvidia hasn’t approached Intel for a buyout. Maybe the ARM buyout being blocked by regulators is still fresh?

Nvidia is too engrossed in selling AI products now than to acquire Intel. And to be fair, ARM chips have come a long way and at this point a strong contender to x86 chips. Given they are already licensed to make ARM chips, no reason to go after Intel. Between ARM and Intel, I would think the former is much better investment since ARM chips are used in a log more electronic devices than Intel chips.

 

[windwhirl]

Who cares about x86, AMD owns x86-64 (previously amd64).
By now, x86 is largely obsolete in terms of the instruction sets that are being used by a modern computer and what's left could most likely quite easily be emulated by a modern CPU if needed.

If this is anything to go by, x86 kind of died with Windows 8.

x64 vs. x86: Key Differences {Features, Limitations, and Use Cases}

x64 vs x86: Learn the key differences, features, and use cases of the two instruction set architectures. See how to check your ISA type.

phoenixnap.com

And Intel wanted to finally get rid of it permanently too, IIRC. So old-ass x86 isn't worth as much

 

[trsttte]

Who Qualcomm is owned by:
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Who Intel is owned by:
View attachment 364186

(Of course it doesn't end here. The list is very similar for AMD. Also Nvidia, except for a certain individual who owns ~3.8%)

The huge operation known to the public as "Qualcomm buys Intel" would actually boil down to "accountants at mutual funds update some records", more or less.

That's a gross misunderstanding of how markets operate. Vanguard, Blackrock and State Street are asset managers, the biggest in the world as a matter of fact. Look at any company of a decent size and prevalence and unless it's private, good change the big 3 own a good chunk of it. They manage investment funds that hold assets like Intel and Qualcomm, that doesn't mean they manage those companies or their decisions. They do have a bigger influence by holding a lot of shares and votes but that's it.

In the case of Vanguard, in practice they own nothing, everything is owned by the people who invest in their products (like me buying some of their ETF's)

 

[xorbe]

Qualcomm would discontinue Intel, the same way Intel discontinued Alpha.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Who cares about x86, AMD owns x86-64 (previously amd64).
By now, x86 is largely obsolete in terms of the instruction sets that are being used by a modern computer and what's left could most likely quite easily be emulated by a modern CPU if needed.

If this is anything to go by, x86 kind of died with Windows 8.

x64 vs. x86: Key Differences {Features, Limitations, and Use Cases}

x64 vs x86: Learn the key differences, features, and use cases of the two instruction set architectures. See how to check your ISA type.

phoenixnap.com

AMD's AMD64/Intel's EM64T (collectively x64) is a superset of x86, they have a symbiotic relationship. It's never been a pure 64-bit architecture like Itanium (IA-64). More recently, OS developers started to tier x64 by extension support:

That's why it never went anywhere, despite x86 OSes being all but dead for some time now. Linux i686 is still around, barely, but both macOS and Windows have already dropped it.

 

[thesmokingman]

You might be right, some really odd stuff going on right now.

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These glitches happen all the time, think latency between hops. And fyi, even if you got in on one of these glitched prices, it'll get reversed, ex...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tried-to-buy-the-dip-after-the-berkshire-hathaway-glitch-be-ready-for-some-bad-news-5a1ec69f

On topic, this has pump and dump news play all over it.

 

[ir_cow]

RIP Intel

 

[jaszy]

BlackRock double dippin on both companies

entire tech market you mean.. lol

 

[Minus Infinity]

I don't see how any regulator would allow this. Even in the US, let alone EU and China.

Seriously. As long as it's lose-lose for consumers, the authorities will give it their blessing. Never been a single one of these takeovers that isn't a clusterfcuk for the employees and consumers. Qualcomm would not be a company I would want buying Intel. They have shown themselves to be a corporate scumbag for far too long. They would rape the IP, keep some talent, and sack many tens of thousands within 12-18 months.

 

[nguyen]

how the mighty have fallen, Elon Musk should buy Intel and rename it to Xintel

 

[usiname]

Hope it works out, one cancer less

Seriously. As long as it's lose-lose for consumers, the authorities will give it their blessing. Never been a single one of these takeovers that isn't a clusterfcuk for the employees and consumers. Qualcomm would not be a company I would want buying Intel. They have shown themselves to be a corporate scumbag for far too long. They would rape the IP, keep some talent, and sack many tens of thousands within 12-18 months.

So basically, they are better than Intel

 

[1d10t]

I don't see this deal passing scrutiny without any probe in the US, EU or even other regions.
Also wonder why Qualcomm would offer the deal, Intel has used their defibrillator many times including the Chip Act oxygen, buying Intel would only severe them no matter how much money Qualcomm has.
If they wanted to get into the Windows market it would be easier to just license, unless they also wanted to control the foundries.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

They can believe whatever they want, among current chip makers AMD has the most diverse portfolio.

Really? You will have to prove this claim.

 

[LabRat 891]

I don't see how any regulator would allow this. Even in the US, let alone EU and China.

Qualcomm and Intel are both major US-based Mil-Ind contractors.
Looking back at American aerospace consolidation, it seems like they would.

 

[kondamin]

Who Qualcomm is owned by:
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Who Intel is owned by:
View attachment 364186

(Of course it doesn't end here. The list is very similar for AMD. Also Nvidia, except for a certain individual who owns ~3.8%)

The huge operation known to the public as "Qualcomm buys Intel" would actually boil down to "accountants at mutual funds update some records", more or less.

Those funds need to be regulated, we’re looking at a single global mega corp.

 

[ypsylon]

Just for LOLs and giggles I would love to see Intel sweat a lot during hostile takeover.

I'm sure US gov will never approve such deal for obvious reasons, but it's just absolute LOL moment.

And we know how this will end - Broadcom will takeover - sooner or later - everything what moves on this planet.

 

[starfals]

Lol, the mighty has fallen big time. I always knew this was comin, after 50000 ++++++++++ rerererereleases. I got bored of even the name Intel. Then their recent problems happen... then the hugeee power drains... Ugh, its a miracle they are still in business tbh. Most people here have 0 interest in them, and for many years now too. I was 100% an intel fan and look what im writing now. I had nothing but intel for more than 13 years.

 

[john_]

Qualcomm is doing a PR stunt here, trying to convince the world+dog that they are as big or as important as Intel.
The thing is that, a deal like this would never pass, for probably the same reasons ARM and Nvidia never passed and also US and the West in general maintain one important advantage against China. The X86 architecture. Qualcomm buying Intel would be just a poison pill for the X86, with Qualcomm probably killing the architecture in favor of ARM and creating a huge mountain of problems to AMD that has cross licensing with Intel to make AMD's life miserable. But killing X86 would mean a future where China and US are now equal, playing both with ARM and Risc-V and that would never be accepted by US.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

That applies to the existing ARM instruction set. Sooner or later ARM will put ogether a new version, or rather a new extension for matrix math/security/whatever. I don't think Apple, Samsung, QC and others will just automatically get the license without paying again.

Apple is a founding member of ARM. Not sure what kind of deal they did from day one, but yes, apparently they have a good deal.

I’m surprised Nvidia hasn’t approached Intel for a buyout. Maybe the ARM buyout being blocked by regulators is still fresh?

The ARM buyout never made sense, since they already had access to the architecture. Given how dirty Ngreedia is, looks like their plan was to keep ARM for themselves, hence why it was correctly blocked

Qualcomm would discontinue Intel, the same way Intel discontinued Alpha.

Maybe or they might turn intel x86 licensing into something like what ARM does.

Or they might be forced to sell certain divisions or grant x86 licenses to Ngreedia, for example.

But this could happen and it would be a fitting end to such a dirty company.

The problem is, Qualcomm is a lot worse than intel on the “dirty” dept.

Qualcomm probably killing the architecture in favor of ARM and creating a huge mountain of problems to AMD that has cross licensing with Intel to make AMD's life miserable

I’m pretty sure that both intel and amd have agreements signed in case something like this ever happened.

 

[Vayra86]

Even AMD can purchase Intel through stock shares alone. AMD stands at $250B market cap.

Imagine... it would be the joke of the century

 

[TheLostSwede]

AMD's AMD64/Intel's EM64T (collectively x64) is a superset of x86, they have a symbiotic relationship. It's never been a pure 64-bit architecture like Itanium (IA-64). More recently, OS developers started to tier x64 by extension support:

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That's why it never went anywhere, despite x86 OSes being all but dead for some time now. Linux i686 is still around, barely, but both macOS and Windows have already dropped it.

I understand that, all in the name of backwards compatibility, but how much of the old stuff is used on a modern computer?

 

[AusWolf]

I had to check the date twice to make sure it's really not April 1. What a strange turn of events!

Worst case scenario, if Qualcomm buys Intel as a whole, and shuts down x86 production because they're not interested in that market, then we'll be left with an AMD monopoly. Let's hope that day never comes.