AMD X870E and X870 Motherboards Have Been Released, Prices Start at $199 Up To $699

[Launcestonian]

I disagree.

Cheap WD BLUE NVME in a 10gbps USB3 case on a USB 3 port is utilised a lot here while i do backups or when i boot from that drive.
I overpaid in summer 2023 for that backup drive.
I would have gone for a 20gbps nvme usb case when the price would have been more affordable. My mainboard has only one or two 20gbps USB 3 ports. The 20gbps usb nvme cases are still too expensive.
I create hole offline system images which are encrypted in around 6 minutes. Many years I had via 5gbps USB SATA SSD backup times with similar sizes which took me over 25 minutes. It's my user data and my system which i compile over 1400 packages from source code. Real life szenario different file systems, small and smallest files. There was a noticeable big improvement changing from usb 3 SATA SSD to usb 3 NVME SSD. I'm not sure if 20gbps usb3 case would make any sense. My desktop system noticeable hangs in daily use with higher compression and encryption on the file system (low end ryzen 7600X - 64GiB RAM - KC3000 2TB NVME drive as source).

But how is 10Gbps the USB3 theoretical top speed? it is only 5Gbps If your referring to .1 or .2 versions of it, then its more of course.
I decompress a file from my USB3 64GB Corsair flash drive to my PCIe 4.0 M.2 drive & a 3Gb compressed file peaks out at a mere 200Mb/s at it's maximum speed according to windows 11 the whole time & yes all drivers & OS are up to date... . That's not even half the speed of UBS2 spec!
The point of my post is that is just does not translate into real world daily usage those super speeds up to 5Gb/s.. never happens. Then you'll get explanations that maybe its the USB cord your using or the flash drive is faulty or some other rubbish far from reality excuse. No, it is what it is as far as I'm concerned, marketing big talk to get consumers parting with their money for the next higher number generational upgrade.

 

[Wirko]

Vibrators, of course!

With telemetry and Recall at the other end of that short pink cable.

 

[Caring1]

Where is MSI X870E Godlike?

All-New MSI X870(E) Motherboards - Built to Dominate Next-Gen AI Computing

MSI unveils the X870E and X870 motherboards, designed to harness the full power of AMD's Ryzen 9000 Series desktop processors. The lineup includes four models: MEG X870E GODLIKE, MPG X870E CARBON WIFI, MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI, and PRO X870-P WIFI. These motherboards deliver exceptional value and...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Xajel]

WIFI 7 seems to lock you in to Windows 11. Gnu Linux - Freebsd and other operating systems not supported or possible.

Sadly, this is intended by MS to push W11 and force people to move from W10. They're doing it from a long time, they're also not accepting new hardware drivers for W10 because they'll end its support soon.

 

[Gigaherz]

Price will drop after a month or two.

Down to still overexpensive beyond comfort.

 

[igormp]

But how is 10Gbps the USB3 theoretical top speed? it is only 5Gbps If your referring to .1 or .2 versions of it, then its more of course.
I decompress a file from my USB3 64GB Corsair flash drive to my PCIe 4.0 M.2 drive & a 3Gb compressed file peaks out at a mere 200Mb/s at it's maximum speed according to windows 11 the whole time & yes all drivers & OS are up to date... . That's not even half the speed of UBS2 spec!
The point of my post is that is just does not translate into real world daily usage those super speeds up to 5Gb/s.. never happens. Then you'll get explanations that maybe its the USB cord your using or the flash drive is faulty or some other rubbish far from reality excuse. No, it is what it is as far as I'm concerned, marketing big talk to get consumers parting with their money for the next higher number generational upgrade.

I do have some Adata flash drives that can easily sustain 100~200MB/s (so a bit over 1Gbps), while some cheap others really can't do much more than 30MB/s. My SD cards are also often below the 100MB/s mark.
For SSDs/NVMes on external enclosures, I can easily saturate the bus speed at 300~400MB/s for the 2.5" drives and 10Gbps (limited by my case) for the NVMes.

I usually use a mix of the above because I have multiple SBCs that I keep toying around with

 

[kapone32]

I do.
My primary B650E Aorus Master system has 6x internal M.2s, the secondary B650E Aorus Master system only runs 5x of them. Admittedly, it’s not your typical gamer use-case, but I doubt that I'm the only one who has such or similar setups.

Me too

 

[csendesmark]

You mean Early Adopter's TAX.

Price will drop after a month or two.

why would?
You must talk about the X670 variants.

I might have to go Threadripper/Epyc for pcie slots, not a fan of m.2.

I was also seriously considering the to take the Threadripper route with the Gigabyte TRX50 AI TOP (best TRX50 board IMO)
But I decided not to since this board with 7960X + 4×32GB RAM costs about double, and it is only giving ~30~35% extra speed (basically 16v24 cores)
I guess those PCIe connectors cost a lot! Yet I would only use about 16~20 more over the AM5 solution.
Also, I don't like the mainboard m.2 solutions either, this is why got the Gigabyte AORUS Gen4 AIC Adaptor (only with 2 SSD since second PCIe slot is @ 8×)
9950X+X870E for me.

 

[Octavean]

Thunderbolt and USB4 are indeed powerful and useful options. However, they are most useful IMO for sealed systems with little to no expansion options (like a Mac for example) in a closed ecosystem. The average PC should have PCIe expansion and these motherboards have that despite the fact that fewer and fewer PCIe slots are on offer.

Currently I have an ASRock B650E PG Riptide WiFi motherboard and while it did have some initial minor growing pains do to UEFI issues it was sorted quickly with revisions. To be honest, the following boards look good to me:

ASRock X870 RIPTIDE WIFE - $279.99
ASRock X870E NOVA WIFI - $349.99
ASRock X870E Taichi LITE - $399.99
ASRock X870E Taichi - $449.99

Some of the Gigabyte boards too.

If I were buying I'd probably go with either the ASRock X870E NOVA WIFI or the ASRock X870E Taichi LITE. Still, I'm served well enough by the ASRock B650E PG Riptide WiFi, RyZen 7950X and 7800XT setup so I won't make a change anytime soon.

 

[kapone32]

Thunderbolt and USB4 are indeed powerful and useful options. However, they are most useful IMO for sealed systems with little to no expansion options (like a Mac for example) in a closed ecosystem. The average PC should have PCIe expansion and these motherboards have that despite the fact that fewer and fewer PCIe slots are on offer.

Currently I have an ASRock B650E PG Riptide WiFi motherboard and while it did have some initial minor growing pains do to UEFI issues it was sorted quickly with revisions. To be honest, the following boards look good to me:

ASRock X870 RIPTIDE WIFE - $279.99
ASRock X870E NOVA WIFI - $349.99
ASRock X870E Taichi LITE - $399.99
ASRock X870E Taichi - $449.99

Some of the Gigabyte boards too.

If I were buying I'd probably go with either the ASRock X870E NOVA WIFI or the ASRock X870E Taichi LITE. Still, I'm served well enough by the ASRock B650E PG Riptide WiFi, RyZen 7950X and 7800XT setup so I won't make a change anytime soon.

Nor for this class but As Rock are also the only boards I am aware of that support 4k 120hz from the on board HDMI port. That is sweet for APUs connected to 120hz TVs or monitors. Of course any monitor that supports 4K can run at 1080P just fine.

 

[Raiden85]

Already using an Asus X670E Hero and the only real difference is Wi-Fi 7. If I upgraded the Wi-Fi card then I pretty much have an X870E board.

For the low end boards it's an ok refresh but for the X670E boards this refresh was completely pointless.

 

[DudeBeFishing]

Vibrators, of course!

48V 5A, or 240W. That's gonna get a little too hot for my liking.

 

[_roman_]

I recommend before buying reading very carefully the online mainboard manual. Suddenly there are PCIE 3.0 slots on the mainboard. Or shared PCIE 5.0 16 lanes slot with M2 NVME slots. You may also look out for AMD / ASUS / Gigabyte rewards-cashbacks. Yesterday I found for central europe 3 different rewards running for amd cpus, gpus and mainboards.

 

[GhostRyder]

Annnd there is Asus once agin with the overpriced lead in the pack haha...

Man the price of motherboards have gone up.