ASUS Z890 Motherboards for Upcoming Intel "Arrow Lake" Processors Leak

[Super Firm Tofu]

‘Thanks . Sounds good. I think the ASUS fan bracket should help quite a bit keeping that area well cooled and I will be buying a Corsair 6500D Airflow case for my ARL build with three 140mm Noctua fans in the front and three at the top so that whole area should hopefully getting sufficient air…

Yeah, the included little fan that mounts to the top NVMe heatsink adds some air movement for sure.

 

[trsttte]

Isn't LGA1851 a rehash of LGA1700 with a couple fixes for the bend gate stuff? Or am i confusing it with a different one?

Anyway, another year another Intel short lived socket, I'm not on the group that likes to bash on Intel for everything and has a party everytime the stock drops but damn, could Intel throw people a bone!?

 

[Upgrayedd]

I'll take one of these, a 4TB SSD for the OS, 15900K, 1000W PSU, RTX 5090, 64GB DDR5 and AIO liquid cooling

All that and you're going to cheap out with an AIO? Prob need more than 1000w as well.

 

[efikkan]

With each of the major motherboard vendors releasing dozens of new motherboards which are essentially iterations of the same overpriced junk, why can't they create at least one no-BS motherboard, with all the PCIe lanes available as PCIe slots (which would be much cheaper), not M.2 slots underneath a metal blob, which would allow the buyer to use them for whatever they desire.

Asus doesnt fool around with vrm's

Probably why they are so expensive.

This is an example of fancy design at the expense of proper engineering.
Those giant metal blobs are very inefficient at dissipating heat, they can only absorb short burts of high heat, and then slowly dissipate it. It's obviously a gimmick to make buyers think the motherboards can handle more, yet a tiny heatsink with proper fins can do it way more efficiently, like we see on server and some workstation boards:

(This one from ASRock IMB-X1900 can handle over 450W power delivery for the CPU)

 

[natr0n]

With each of the major motherboard vendors releasing dozens of new motherboards which are essentially iterations of the same overpriced junk, why can't they create at least one no-BS motherboard, with all the PCIe lanes available as PCIe slots (which would be much cheaper), not M.2 slots underneath a metal blob, which would allow the buyer to use them for whatever they desire.


This is an example of fancy design at the expense of proper engineering.
Those giant metal blobs are very inefficient at dissipating heat, they can only absorb short burts of high heat, and then slowly dissipate it. It's obviously a gimmick to make buyers think the motherboards can handle more, yet a tiny heatsink with proper fins can do it way more efficiently, like we see on server and some workstation boards:
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(This one from ASRock IMB-X1900 can handle over 450W power delivery for the CPU)

Yeah I have a 1366 board vrm look like that.

I never really thought about server vrm but its a wonder really.
I can put two 5690 around 130 watts each on this and just works and the vrm area is so little.

 

[Waweq]

Also the one I am most interested in. I finally want peace of mind when installing RAM. My ROG STRIX Z790-E could not run my 32GB DDR5-7200 kit above 6800MHz and it currently can not run my 64GB DDR5-6800 kit above 6600MHz (i.e. it can "run" it as it boots up fine but it's not Prime95-stable). I'm sure the APEX can/could.

Speaking of the APEX, does anyone here have 1st hand experience with the M.2 DIMMs? Does that work well? Are the temps low? Any caveats? I need to install three M2 SSDs and M2 placement is always a concern for me as I want my SSDs to run as fast and cool as possible. The Z890 APEX looks slightly worrisome as it kinda looks like the CPU-connected M2 slots will be in the hot spot area between the GPU and CPU (ugh).

I have Z790 APEX and yes the DIMM M.2 works well although it gets hot (based on my feeling of the sides when i touch them)

the tiny fan could also help a lot pushing some air inside around the rams/DIMM

 

[Austntok]

I really hope the Apex comes in black or I guess I'll have to get the Hero. I want 2 DIMMS, so if it only comes in white, I will be extremely sad. My Z790-E Gaming WiFi II has been good to me but I originally wanted the z790 Apex Encore. Them Apex boards are no joke.

Also the one I am most interested in. I finally want peace of mind when installing RAM. My ROG STRIX Z790-E could not run my 32GB DDR5-7200 kit above 6800MHz and it currently can not run my 64GB DDR5-6800 kit above 6600MHz (i.e. it can "run" it as it boots up fine but it's not Prime95-stable). I'm sure the APEX can/could.

Speaking of the APEX, does anyone here have 1st hand experience with the M.2 DIMMs? Does that work well? Are the temps low? Any caveats? I need to install three M2 SSDs and M2 placement is always a concern for me as I want my SSDs to run as fast and cool as possible. The Z890 APEX looks slightly worrisome as it kinda looks like the CPU-connected M2 slots will be in the hot spot area between the GPU and CPU (ugh).

Do you have the first gen Z790-E? I have the Z790-E Gaming WiFi II (2) with a 14900k and I've been able to run really fast kits. ram kits I successfully ran stable on the z790-E 2 are 32gb 7200 CL36, 48gb 7000 CL36, 48gb 7600 CL36, and the kit I've been running for the last month is 64gb 6800 CL32. All 4 kits passed memtest, prime95, Intel Burn test, and cinebench. I only ran in to trouble when I tried using my G.Skill 48gb 8000 CL40 kit. it boots on this board but it blue screens within a minute. People that have the z790 Apex Encore have been able to hit 8400 with little effort. I was planning on getting the z890 apex but my build is all black

 

[RogueSix]

@Austntok

Yes, I have the first gen Z790-E. As I said, no chance to get anything above 7000MHz Prime-stable with the 32GB kit and no chance to run 6800MHz with the 64GB kit (6600MHz at 1.47V is rock stable though so not too much of a loss).

The funny thing is that, not with the first one, but with one of the very first/early BIOS versions, I could run 7200MHz Prime-stable but annoyingly never again with any of the BIOS versions after that so that gives us a hint that it wasn't my IMC but the board holding me back.

Why did I not roll back to that old BIOS version? Well, it was one of those versions before some pretty critical security fixes so I just settled for running my 32GB kit at 6800MHz.
I mean, the difference in games between 6800MHz and 7200MHz is maybe 1fps so it wasn't a big deal, just slightly annoying when you can not run the RAM at its nominal speed that is printed on the box and that you paid good money for...