AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D "Zen 5" Spied in Cinebench, Boosts up to 5.20 GHz All-core

[Minus Infinity]

im expecting a 10% average lead over 7800x3d

In gaming yes at least, but in productivity > 20%. I think gaming will hit 15%. It would be 5-6% if clocks were the same, but they are going to be noticeably higher and have full PBO support.

BTW AMD is awaiting full Arrow Lake benchmarks before announcing X3D and official clocks. 5.2GHz all core though sounds excellent and means it won't suck for productivity.

 

[watzupken]

After the recent 2 fiasco of AMD over-promising and under-delivering, e.g. RDNA3 and Zen 5, I rather wait for independent testing to conclude on the performance uplift. I do expect improvements, but the question is how much.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

Well if these percentages are not entirely random, but they represent typical gains, we are looking at another 5% performance boost over previous generation.

 

[Vayra86]

Lot of wishful thinking in this topic IMHO. X3D's have already banked the additional cache bonus, it ain't happening twice, its the same type of cache.

They're gonna get a clock bump so that'll be that. Hopefully at similar power figures, but I wouldn't hold your breath on that either. Frequency costs power. Also, Cinebench isn't really representative of any kind of productive or typical system load, and definitely not for gaming.

The best case gaming scenario (FC6) for this comparison is showing 13%, clearly derived almost exclusively from better clocks. Not much secrecy left here in Zen 5, to me.

 

[unwind-protect]

This CPU is relevant to my interests.

 

[phanbuey]

Just a silly thought.. could it be possible that the 9700X benefits more from having more cache/is more cache starved/is held back more by the current IOD than a 7700X due to the Zen5 architecture, and that we'll see higher performance gains in Zen5 models when V-cache is added, maybe even outside games now that the Hz difference is smaller?

Spoiler: Disclaimer

This is not an attempt to go looking for yet another magic potion to fix Zen5, I'm just wondering if we really know everything about Zen5 at this point, given all the changes (mostly server focused.. seemingly) that has been made. Nooo, that's not the same thing.

I'm actually hoping for this too.

 

[SL2]

3D's have already banked the additional cache bonus, it ain't happening twice, its the same type of cache.

We don't know if V-cache gives a bigger bump for Zen5 than for Zen4. Yeah it's probably the same cache, but like I said, different cores.

 

[RaceT3ch]

i wonder if pbo could get the cpu up to 5.3-5.4
do x3d's have auto oc available to am5 x3d?
or is it only 5.25 ghz since they only go 50mhz over their advertised speed

 

[ratirt]

None of us have seen a review, let alone used it, so it doesn't matter right now. Worrying won't help either, since you'll be able to read decent reviews before you can buy it.

The reason I focused on temp and not W is that the former was more of a subject the last time.

The reason I worry is the shift in direction and crippled innovation for sales. It is not about buying it and seeing reviews at this point.
I will watch reviews but these wont change my stand regarding the subject.