Nintendo Takes Down Ryujinx Emulator, YouTube Videos Showing Emulation Get Strikes

[lexluthermiester]

Nintendo: "We sell our consoles at a loss, but we make the money back on games"

Also Nintendo: "We won't sell many of our games on other platforms, forcing you to buy our hardware which we sell at a loss"

Nintendo are dumb.

And yet it's worked beautifully for decades. It's counter intuitive, sure. Dumb? That's open for debate..

 

[windwhirl]

If you get someone with actual skills working with the source of both emulators, we could get something amazing in a few years.

Maybe. I'm more... concerned, I guess, with the chilling effect Nintendo's actions may have. There was a comment that Nintendo lawyers went and visited the main dev(s) at their home in Brazil, on top of that.

 

[GoldenX]

Maybe. I'm more... concerned, I guess, with the chilling effect Nintendo's actions may have. There was a comment that Nintendo lawyers went and visited the main dev(s) at their home in Brazil, on top of that.

Yep and people dare to think Nintendo gave him money to close shop. The misinformation that happens after these events is amazing.

 

[lexluthermiester]

There was a comment that Nintendo lawyers went and visited the main dev(s) at their home in Brazil, on top of that.

That would be VERY unlikely.

 

[sepheronx]

What a joke.

Oh well, since its EOL or nearly is for the switch, I guess what we got is good enough.

Cetra, Yuzu and now Ryujinx. There will be something else but still. Not even Sony is this vindictive as Nintendo.

 

[ratirt]

It makes me want to drop my switch in the toilet "accidentally".
Kinda shame, no emulation. It was always fun for me to try these things.

 

[loracle706]

F Nintendo hope they fall soon thieves company !!

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Well i will keep using ryujinx in its current form and update till it does not work anymore. I guess i will need to stop it checking for updates though.

 

[Dr. Dro]

It's a temporary setback, imo. Despite the whole tourism, the redditors and "game journos" hounding the scene like the hyenas and crows they are, newer, better emulators will eventually rise to take Yuzu and Ryujinx's place, and I dare say they will do so without touching a line of their code. By the time this happens, the Switch won't be Nintendo's primary commercial focus anymore; so they'll have an easier time about being pursued like this.

Anyone remembers VisualBoyAdvance? The original developer basically disappeared - and that was in 2004. I never knew why as a young lad, at 11-12 years old all I knew is that I found it absolutely bananas that my beloved Game Boy games ran on my banged up AMD K6 PC at the time - and since then, I've grown to strongly suspect that it was also a backroom deal to blame. The truth, I think few people know or remember 20 years later.

VBA had famously high compatibility even when compared to much newer and higher footprint emulators, even though by modern emulation standards it's complete garbage (it doesn't emulate many quirks of the hardware such as scratch RAM and is relatively inaccurate - to the extent that you could leverage its inaccuracy to manipulate glitches in Pokémon Red and Blue for example) - but you could still play games that were released after its final release such as Pokémon Emerald just fine on it - and I bet on it that most of us grew up doing just that!

 

[windwhirl]

It's a temporary setback, imo. Despite the whole tourism, the redditors and "game journos" hounding the scene like the hyenas and crows they are, newer, better emulators will eventually rise to take Yuzu and Ryujinx's place, and I dare say they will do so without touching a line of their code. By the time this happens, the Switch won't be Nintendo's primary commercial focus anymore; so they'll have an easier time about being pursued like this.

Anyone remembers VisualBoyAdvance? The original developer basically disappeared - and that was in 2004. I never knew why as a young lad, at 11-12 years old all I knew is that I found it absolutely bananas that my beloved Game Boy games ran on my banged up AMD K6 PC at the time - and since then, I've grown to strongly suspect that it was also a backroom deal to blame. The truth, I think few people know or remember 20 years later.

VBA had famously high compatibility even when compared to much newer and higher footprint emulators, even though by modern emulation standards it's complete garbage (it doesn't emulate many quirks of the hardware such as scratch RAM and is relatively inaccurate - to the extent that you could leverage its inaccuracy to manipulate glitches in Pokémon Red and Blue for example) - but you could still play games that were released after its final release such as Pokémon Emerald just fine on it - and I bet on it that most of us grew up doing just that!

On VBA, I'll just say the only reason to get a different, newer emulator was the ability to link multiple Gameboy games at the same time... and I recall there was a link-enabled VBA version floating around (unsure if by the same guy or not)

 

[Dr. Dro]

On VBA, I'll just say the only reason to get a different, newer emulator was the ability to link multiple Gameboy games at the same time... and I recall there was a link-enabled VBA version floating around (unsure if by the same guy or not)

Indeed, it was that good and even today I bet a lot of people still see little reason to use anything else, despite the higher standards of emulation available today. VBA-Link was one of its many forks. Eventually VBA-M came around as the fork that got most development done, but nowadays mGBA has supplanted it entirely - it is a much newer, accurate emulator which has actual support for these things instead of it being loosely hacked in.

 

[Metroid]

I use emulators since 1996, used a pentium at that time with a 3dfx voodoo, the feeling of loading Crono Trigger and Super Metroid for the first time was amazing.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Oh well, since its EOL or nearly is for the switch

Gen 1 is near EOL. The next system will be 100% code and function compatible.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Gen 1 is near EOL. The next system will be 100% code and function compatible.

Gen2 v1 though no oled screen, so gen 2 V2 is maybe the better bet.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Gen2 v1 though no oled screen, so gen 2 V2 is maybe the better bet.

You mean Gen1 V2? We're not on Switch Gen2 ARM hardware yet as it is not released.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

You mean Gen1 V2? We're not on Switch Gen2 ARM hardware yet as it is not released.

The switch 2, which will be switch gen 2 imo, is not going to have a oled screen as far as i know, which is a shame, so better maybe to wait for switch gen 2 v2 which i reckon will have.

Switch 1 v1 is non oled=gen1 v1
Switch 1 v2 is oled=gen1 v2

Switch 2 v1 non oled=gen2 v1
Switch 2 v2 oled?=gen2 v2

 

[Ruru]

Ningreedo doesn't know how this works. You shut one down, two replacements will come up.

 

[x4it3n]

That's not good news but Nintendo are the one shooting themselves in the foot... Emulation allows more people to play their games and with better resolution & graphics! Plus that makes them some advertising too...
The Switch has such a weak Hardware that it's truly laughable... and knowing that the Switch 2 should be close to a PS4 (that will be a 12 years old console in 2025...) seems even worse lol.
When we see how more and more demanding new games are (mostly on UE5), I think developers are going to struggle real hard to run any new game in the next 2-3 years ... Tsss

The switch 2, which will be switch gen 2 imo, is not going to have a oled screen as far as i know, which is a shame, so better maybe to wait for switch gen 2 v2 which i reckon will have.

Switch 1 v1 is non oled=gen1 v1
Switch 1 v2 is oled=gen1 v2

Switch 2 v1 non oled=gen2 v1
Switch 2 v2 oled?=gen2 v2

Nintendo are definitely a scam company when it comes to Console Hardware... When I see the Switch OLED being sold for $350 when it's between a PS3 and PS4 performance-wise but people complain about the PS5 Pro being sold for $700 when it's at least 15x more powerful...lol

 

[Ruru]

Nintendo are definitely a scam company when it comes to Console Hardware... When I see the Switch OLED being sold for $350 when it's between a PS3 and PS4 performance-wise but people complain about the PS5 Pro being sold for $700 when it's at least 15x more powerful...lol

Gamecube was the last console when Ningreedo competed with hardware. After that, it's been their "innovations" and other niche stuff.

Personally I don't even like their exclusives, Mario and Zelda games were dope in the 2D era but after that, nah.

 

[x4it3n]

Gamecube was the last console when Ningreedo competed with hardware. After that, it's been their "innovations" and other niche stuff.

Personally I don't even like their exclusives, Mario and Zelda games were dope in the 2D era but after that, nah.

Yeah I agree, I prefer PlayStation Single-Player exclusives like TLOU, Horizon, GoW, Uncharted, GoT, Spider-Man, Final Fantasy, Days Gone, etc.. Mario and Zelda are fun to play but I'm not a teenager anymore, it doesn't hit the same now.

 

[SRS]

When someone makes so much money, it's never enough for them. Meanwhile, if you're on minimum wage, you should just cut your expenses to fit into your budget. It's always the same sickening narrative.

It's not someone, it's a corporation.

Corporations are non-living financial mechanisms designed to generate as much profit as possible — which means providing as little value to customers as they can get away with. They don't have feelings. They don't sleep. They don't get sick. They don't get old and retire. They exist for as long as possible to take as much as possible and to give the community as little as possible.

As Ambrose Bierce said (quoted in Civ V), the corporation is an invention to provide individual profit without individual responsibility. Ordinary people are confused into referring to them with human terms, such as by referring to them as "they" and "who" — as if they're alive. They use personalities like CEOs to confuse people into believing that they're somehow human. A great exposé of that was in the Black Mirror episode in which an AI CEO explains (without you knowing she's AI) why ruining people's lives is good business. Once you learn she's AI herself, you realize that you've been had in more ways than one.

I don't know if humanity can do better than corporations but while we're under their thumb we should know what they are, what they do.

 

[AusWolf]

It's not someone, it's a corporation.

Corporations are non-living financial mechanisms designed to generate as much profit as possible — which means providing as little value to customers as they can get away with. They don't have feelings. They don't sleep. They don't get sick. They don't get old and retire. They exist for as long as possible to take as much as possible and to give the community as little as possible.

As Ambrose Bierce said (quoted in Civ V), the corporation is an invention to provide individual profit without individual responsibility. Ordinary people are confused into referring to them with human terms, such as by referring to them as "they" and "who" — as if they're alive. They use personalities like CEOs to confuse people into believing that they're somehow human. A great exposé of that was in the Black Mirror episode in which an AI CEO explains (without you knowing she's AI) why ruining people's lives is good business. Once you learn she's AI herself, you realize that you've been had in more ways than one.

I don't know if humanity can do better than corporations but while we're under their thumb we should know what they are, what they do.

Thanks for spoiling Black Mirror to me, I wanted to watch that. Next time, use the spoiler button, ok?

Anyway, I know that companies aren't living beings, only legal entities. But who made that happen? Who's behind them? Who reaps the benefits when the company is doing well? Shareholders, right? Aren't they human?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Shareholders, right? Aren't they human?

Shareholders need to take a back seat to doing what is correct and right. I say that AS a shareholder. Nintendo is needs to stop making like Godzilla. That said, emulation and emulators are PERFECTLY legal. However emulators that run retail games for console systems and platforms that are still in active production and development is a bit pushing the fair-use ethic.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Shareholders need to take a back seat to doing what is correct and right. I say that AS a shareholder. Nintendo is needs to stop making like Godzilla. That said, emulation and emulators are PERFECTLY legal. However emulators that run retail games for console systems and platforms that are still in active production and development is a bit pushing the fair-use ethic.

I totally understand and agree with Ninty taking down Ryujinx as the switch is still a current console. When it is not, they will possibly allow switch emulators.

 

[lexluthermiester]

When it is not, they will possibly allow switch emulators.

They don't have a choice. Emulators are legal. Making them compatible with commercial ROMs that have encryption protections is where the iffyness comes into play. Once the system and the games are out of production/print then fair-use and preservation ideals come into play and have precedent.