AMD Readies Radeon RX 7650 GRE Based on "Navi 33"

[btarunr]

AMD is readying a new mainstream graphics card positioned based on its current RDNA 3 graphics architecture, the Radeon RX 7650 GRE (Golden Rabbit Edition). The company has had great success in selling graphics card SKUs with the "GRE" brand extension in China, with the RX 6750 GRE being a popular SKU there; and it even has an enthusiast-class SKU with the RX 7900 GRE, which saw a global launch earlier this year. The company is hoping for the "GRE" moniker to compete better against the GeForce RTX 4060, at least in specific markets. A new Benchlife.info report says that the RX 7650 GRE will be based on the 6 nm "Navi 33" monolithic silicon, and not the 5 nm "Navi 32" chiplet-based GPU previously reported.

AMD has already maxed out the "Navi 33" for both the RX 7600 and RX 7600 XT, with the latter only seeing its memory size doubled over the former, so it remains to be seen where AMD goes with the RX 7650 GRE. The "7650" numbering suggests a faster SKU, so it's possible that AMD increases the engine clock speeds of the "Navi 33" by as much as it can. The RX 7600 comes with a 2.25 GHz Game clock, which the RX 7600 XT slightly bumps up to 2.47 GHz. If we were to guess, the RX 7650 GRE could focus on increasing the Game clock, not the memory size; and so it could have the power configuration of the RX 7600 XT, and room for Game clocks either on-par or higher than the RX 7600 XT, while retaining the 8 GB memory size of the RX 7600.



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[Macro Device]

No matter what they do to N33 this time it won't be a 4060 destroyer anyway. Might be pure rebranding like 6750 GREs which are 100% identical to RX 6700 and RX 6700 XT.

 

[jak_2456]

I'm interested to see how this one performs. The 7600 is mid, the XT is not great, the 4060 is also mid, and Battle mage is not looking too likely.

 

[sepheronx]

I'm interested to see how this one performs. The 7600 is mid, the XT is not great, the 4060 is also mid, and Battle mage is not looking too likely.

you know something of battlemage we dont?

 

[Minus Infinity]

I'm interested to see how this one performs. The 7600 is mid, the XT is not great, the 4060 is also mid, and Battle mage is not looking too likely.

These are nothing more than 7500 vs 4050. Both shameful rebrands of trash tier products.

 

[Firedrops]

Leave it to the strategic geniuses in AMD's executive team to... begin trying to compete with a product that is going to be, for all intents and purposes, ending sales in about 4 months. Instead of any point in the past 2 years. Bravo.

 

[GoldenX]

With the current Navi 33 product prices, I fail to see how another expensive 8GB 128 bit wide card can help.

 

[Dr. Dro]

With the current Navi 33 product prices, I fail to see how another expensive 8GB 128 bit wide card can help.

Because it can't. There's not a single scenario where it can. It caters to no niche, offers no great value, and has absolutely no reason to exist. It takes a bad product and makes an even worse one out of it, the RX 7650 branding clearly shows AMD has no intention of reducing its price. Looks like a desperate last-ditch effort to shift any Navi 33 stock they have shored up without simply making 7600's out of them all and selling them at a loss.

Leave it to the strategic geniuses in AMD's executive team to... begin trying to compete with a product that is going to be, for all intents and purposes, ending sales in about 4 months. Instead of any point in the past 2 years. Bravo.

This reeks of desperation to me. Either that or they simply don't care anymore.

 

[Apocalypsee]

If it still based on pile of trash Navi 33 that been used on on 7600&XT version what would this GREed version gonna do?

 

[Dr. Dro]

If it still based on pile of trash Navi 33 that been used on on 7600&XT version what would this GREed version gonna do?

Jack up the clocks and power to an unreasonable degree, shredding any semblance of efficiency it had left?

 

[Onasi]

This honestly seems like a misunderstanding or something. If a 7650 were to exist I would assume it would be a further cut down 7700XT. Making another maxed out N33 SKU is absolutely senseless.

Jack up the clocks and power to an unreasonable degree, shredding any semblance of efficiency it had left?

Hypothetically, sure, RX 590 style. But how the frick would they even price it? If we take MSRP, the 7600XT is 330, 7700XT is 450. So, what, unironically place a N33 SKU at 380-ish? That’s madness.

 

[Apocalypsee]

Jack up the clocks and power to an unreasonable degree, shredding any semblance of efficiency it had left?

Funny thing is the XT version is only 100MHz faster boost clock than the non XT version, so best bet is 100MHz more for GREed version and moar TDP I guess. Fuck sake AMD this is no longer funny it just sad.

 

[Dr. Dro]

This honestly seems like a misunderstanding or something. If a 7650 were to exist I would assume it would be a further cut down 7700XT. Making another maxed out N33 SKU is absolutely senseless.


Hypothetically, sure, RX 590 style. But how the frick would they even price it? If we take MSRP, the 7600XT is 330, 7700XT is 450. So, what, unironically place a N33 SKU at 380-ish? That’s madness.

Nowhere near that high-effort, since the RX 590 accompanied a die shrink with totally revised 12 nm Polaris 30 silicon instead of the old 14 nm Ellesmere/Polaris 10/20 that's present on the RX 480/580 and its myriad variants. There's no indication that this is a special, 3 nm version of N33, or that there are any changes at the hardware level, which only means they either jacked up the clocks, or this is a shameless re-release in hopes to sell a few extra units by drumming up FOMO in some folks or catch a bunch of other folks unawares

 

[Onasi]

@Dr. Dro
Granted, yeah, although that switch to 12nm definitely didn’t really help - the 590 was an absolute disaster in terms of efficiency. So not like it mattered in the grand scheme of things, really. But yeah, this one, if it pans out to be an actual thing and AMD goes through with it, will be an almost unheard of level of low effort SKU spam. The 7600XT already was arguably unnecessary and pointless. This would be just another sign that Radeon division is absolutely cooked.

 

[Dr. Dro]

@Dr. Dro
Granted, yeah, although that switch to 12nm definitely didn’t really help - the 590 was an absolute disaster in terms of efficiency. So not like it mattered in the grand scheme of things, really. But yeah, this one, if it pans out to be an actual thing and AMD goes through with it, will be an almost unheard of level of low effort SKU spam. The 7600XT already was arguably unnecessary and pointless. This would be just another sign that Radeon division is absolutely cooked.

I mean, the 7600 XT basically addresses its equally egregious failure of a counterpart, the 4060 Ti 16 GB... aside from the high cost it doesn't measure up regardless, since it's par or slightly slower than the regular vanilla RTX 4060, which makes it for one of the most unsavory purchases you could have made recently. This is going to address what who which whom exactly?

 

[Hyderz]

7600xt to 7700xt has quite a big gap in terms of performance... so not surprising amd wants to fill that gap

 

[Dr. Dro]

7600xt to 7700xt has quite a big gap in terms of performance... so not surprising amd wants to fill that gap

Which this product is physically incapable of doing as long as it carries Navi 33 silicon

 

[Xaser04]

AMD.... Just make a 7700 Non XT... cut a few cores out and drop the Memory Bus if you have to (like the RX 6700 Non XT).

Just don't clock bump the 7600 again... An Extra 200Mhz will make no meaningful difference.

Also, whilst you are at it. Actually work with laptop manufacturers to ensure your high end GPU's actually, you know, appear in any that are sold...

 

[DaemonForce]

No, no and no.
The only hope for a re-release of anything at this junker tier is producing a card for SFF at 3/4 power.
Also racks at a shorter+longer package than the original with minimal power input (6-pin?).
If I want a minimalist RX 7000 series card in any of my stuff, I'm putting it to work as encode or remote GPU.
This 7650GRE is either an auto-fail or setup for failure. It's gonna be DOA just like the 7400/7500 idea.

 

[Nostras]

Jacking up the clocks has me worried that this thing will consume as much as a 7700XT.

 

[AusWolf]

Cool... But why?

 

[jak_2456]

you know something of battlemage we dont?

No, that's just my $0.02 on the situation.

 

[_roman_]

I'm interested to see how this one performs. The 7600 is mid, the XT is not great, the 4060 is also mid, and Battle mage is not looking too likely.

I had an Asrock challenger 6600XT D 8GB for around 20 months. I bought it at release and that card was my starting point in desktop pc gaming again. It's not that bad in WHQD. You just need to know the limitations at that time. I only played 3 years or older games.
The 6650XT / 7600 / 7600Xt / 7650GRE are just same performance products from AMD.
That performance of 6600XT and similiar slowly moves in the basic desktop graphic card section, e.g. when you want a dedicated graphic card with dedicated graphic memory with latest driver features.

This card was entry gaming at the time of purchase. I highly doubt the 6600XT was ever midrange.

Low midrange is the Radeon 7800XT.

Highend is Nvidia 4090 or the professional gpus. Many cards slower you can ditch in the midrange section, which has a lot of different graphic cards.

 

[Ruru]

Booring. 7600 XT is already a "meh" card since it's just a faster RX 7600 with double the VRAM size.

 

[Zareek]

Which this product is physically incapable of doing as long as it carries Navi 33 silicon

I agree, but as someone else mentioned, maybe it's a cut down Navi 32 design. The gap between 7600XT and 7700XT is pretty big.

I think they are smoking crack if they think they'll sell a bunch of Navi 3x chips off when most sources suggest a Navi 4x launch in early January.