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The power consumption is underwhelming as Intel is on more advanced node, yet they aren't beating AMD on power efficiency. Even at the same clocks with non-X3D AMD is more efficient.
Maybe Im retarded but they seem pretty neck and neck on efficiency charts vs AMD 9000 series and pretty dang good for single thread efficiency
 
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The power consumption is underwhelming as Intel is on more advanced node, yet they aren't beating AMD on power efficiency. Even at the same clocks with non-X3D AMD is more efficient.
exactly, dont know how anyone can think this is an improvement.
 

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exactly, dont know how anyone can think this is an improvement.
Compared to what Intel is coming from. It is a huge improvement but i guess some cant be that charitable to Intel
 
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Maybe Im retarded but they seem pretty neck and neck on efficiency charts vs AMD 9000 series and pretty dang good for single thread efficiency
Only being neck and neck on efficiency while being 2 years newer than AMD Zen 4 and on a more advanced TSMC process node is disappointing. Intel should be demolishing AMD in every power efficiency metric, and AMD has a efficiency disadvantage with a separate I/O die. It's only good if you compare it to Intel 13th/14th gen, though that doesn't make it impressive either as Intel cranked up power past the limit with Raptor Lake.
On topic, I'd more impressed with how well ram would OC on air instead of LN2.
 

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Only being neck and neck on efficiency while being 2 years newer than AMD Zen 4 and on a more advanced TSMC process node is disappointing. Intel should be demolishing AMD in every power efficiency metric, and AMD has a efficiency disadvantage with a separate I/O die. It's only good if you compare it to Intel 13th/14th gen and refuse to consider an AMD cpu.
On topic, I'd more impressed with how well ram would OC on air instead of LN2.
Lol what? Are you just willfully ignoring the multithreaded efficiency graph? These chips are right there with Zen5.
 

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Intel only has multithread efficiency because of more lower power e-cores, if AMD X3D isn't a fair comparison, then using multithread as a comparison isn't either.

As for being charitable, I don't see a reason to be charitable to a company that put themselves in the mess they're in, Intel launched an underwhelming product and got away with it, Arrow Lake didn't receive nearly the amount of criticism from reviewers as AMD with Zen 5.
 
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Lol what? Are you just willfully ignoring the multithreaded efficiency graph? These chips are right there with Zen5.
that graph looks like intel's own 2 generations old 13400F is more efficient in terms of points per watt, and it doesn't tie, its below the zen 5 parts which are on an *older* TSMC node.....
 
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